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Bump. Anyone else?

Bump. Anyone else able to share their experience? Especially from the face (above jawline...mainly the chin, mustache and soul patch areas, which is where I’m looking to use as donor)

Thanks

Would manual punch be best for this situation? Do you know which doctors are best at extractions from the chin?

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Hello Mr. Harin,

 

Thank you for your comment and your question. The beard can be a wonderful source of donor hair for those that have not enough scalp hair. It is the heartiest of donor hairs outside of the scalp region. The problem for many patients is that beard hair is more coarse than scalp hair and is often a different texture and sometimes even a different color. In cases such as the one above beard hair should not be used exclusively in the crown as it would not produce as natural a result as would a combination of beard/scalp or beard/chest hair, assuming the chest hair is of a finer caliber.

 

I hope this answers your question to your satisfaction.

Dr. Bhatti

What size do you use for beard graft extractions?

I've had grafts taken from the cheeks and chin. No noticeable scarring. I've seen pictures of what bad FUE looks like, but in my case there is minimal marking. Depends on who you go to and their experience.

Who did you go if you don’t mind me asking?

I had ACell PRP performed by a very respectable doctor on here. I wouldn't recommend. You're causing a lot of trauma to your scalp by doing it, and the rewards are minimal to non existent. The only positive stories I've ever seen on here are from doctors (Welsey, Cooley, Bisnaga). I've never seen a single patient who has had his life changed by PRP.

 

I would go to Bisanga. Only use someone that uses a manual punch. I hate motorized FUE and have seen adjacent follicles traumatized. You don't want that on your face.

What i mean by Acell and PRP is when it is applied to the donor area after extraction. Not as a standalone procedure.

Does anyone have a list of doctors who use only manual punches?

Thanks

Hi guys,

People who have had hairs taken from their beard ABOVE the jawline (chin, mustache, under the chin), have you had any issues with scarring/hypopigmentation?

I've heard only good things about beard FUE extractions, even above the jawline (mainly from HDC clinic and Dr. Bisanga)

I am looking to get this done, with small punch size (hopefully 0.6-0.8mm) plus Acell and PRP. Not sure which doctor to go to yet. Any recommendations?

You are probably wondering why. I am looking to reverse a scalp to beard FUE i had done before. I don't like it, it looks bad, I have gaps in my scalp donor area that I want to fix, and i just want to get this over and done with.

Thank you

How much does Dr Wesley charge per scalp and body hair graft?

Hi all,

I was wondering what you guys thought about Dr. Carlos Wesley. I'm interested in going to him for a repair of my donor area, and have heard great things about him, including some repairs he's done on other people's donor areas. I've narrowed it down to him and one more clinic.

Anyone had experience with him, good or bad?

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Has anyone had FUE scars that got worse with time?

I feel like after 5 months, my FUE scars are now becoming hypopigmented. Before, the skin was normal color, and now they've become whiter than the surrounding areas.

Will they get better with time?

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Harry. Did you notice improved skin texture after plucking the hairs out? I noticed that the hair root and shaft of the transplanted hair actually causes some skin irregularities. I once plucked one hair out and within a couple days the skin that used to around that hair that used to look goose pimplish, flattened out.

 

Also I am so happy for you that you found something that works. Two years after my ht I still have some pinkness. It is nowhere near as bad as some, and not as noticeable as yours. It is good to know I have an out if I do decide to shave my head and remove my transplanted hairs if my hairloss progresses.

 

Even before your post I researched and believed v beam would be my best bet.

 

Really appreciate your post.

Hey Spidey,

How do you plan on dealing with the scars in your donor? Or is your donor area healed up well enough that you dont see any scars once shaved?

Spidey, yes, I do believe that the hair root and shaft cause some skin irregularities. Having spoken specifically about the thicker transplanted hairs, I believe that the thicker growing transplanted hairs contribute to skin irregularities. I also should say that I didn't pluck my first hair until probably 3 years after my hair transplant procedure - so I was completely hands off the first 18 months based on what everyone said is the time it can take for a hair transplant to completely heal "in the worst case scenarios". After that, the first thing I did was get the cortisone shot, and I started using silicone gel for bumpy texture (prior to my first micro needling).

 

I have often wondered if using implanter pen "crams" the hair graft into the skin in such a way that the hair graft isn't as long and slender as it is in it's native location. The "crammed" hair graft, as such, causes a kinky curl to develop and maybe the puncture of the pen and such creates a wider opening which leads to a thicker shaft growing - or maybe like a tube of tooth paste harshly squeezed the hair shaft comes out thicker from the follicle. But I have no evidence to explain the thicker, darker hairs. I do feel like the quality of the hairs has improved some - but it's hard to say. I still pluck on a regular basis. I store the hairs in sandwich bags with the month labeled on it. I figure one day I can examine the first plucked hairs and compare them with recent plucked hairs to see if there is any improvement when placed side by side.

To both Spidey and Harry

Do you find that the native hairs (non-transplanted hairs) cause the same skin irregularities, or is it just the hair grafts that were transplanted? If its all hairs that are causing these irregularities, perhaps its natural and we can't do anything about it

Thank you for pointing that out David! The link is now fixed.

Abbie, it looks amazing!

Are you able to share photos of the nape donor area to show if there is any potential scarring in the area?

I am considering Dr. Umar for a repair and would like to use primarily nape hair. I have light fair skin and dark hair. I want to know if Dr. Umar's approach will leave any scars.

Thanks

another option to consider to conceal the FUE scarring is Scalp Micro Pigmentation (SMP) - you've stated you only did 550 grafts, which unless the extraction was concentrated in a particular zone instead of a random wider pattern, it should not have been obvious even when you cut your hair short - but check out some SMP posts and reviews and see if that's a viable option for you - certainly much less invasive than having another surgery. good luck

Thanks home. I have thought about it but I honestly prefer hair in those gaps...at least the ones lower down the donor area.

The reason I want to use the nape hair is because I don't like it (it grows out very quickly and ruins my haircuts after a couple of days; i considered laser removal but would love to use it as a donor if I could).

But i appreciate the concern and the advice.

Has anyone here had nape hair used with success?

If you try to repair that area with nape hair you may end up worse. I do not think nape hair is a viable resource and that is from physical experience. Be very careful overall. Make sure you get medical records, get actual dslr picture with anyone that does any Procedure for you. Have all documentation and emails as they come in handy.

 

Im a wreck at the moment and things look worse.

 

Best of luck to you.

Sean,

Do you have any scarring from your nape hair extractions? And did they not grow for you at all?

Do you mind me asking who did you procedure?

I see all the cases Dr. Umar has done using nape hair and body hair, with success. Is he the best out there for this?

Actually, it seems many people are using nape for various purpose with success, but when I hear stories like yours, it puts me on edge.

Thanks

Hi all,

I'll start off by saying I don't suffer from any hairloss, nor do I have a family history of it.

I had a 550 graft FUE done (all double hairs, split into 1100 single hairs) from scalp to facial hair region. It has left some gaps in my donor area that you can see when I cut my hair short, and I'm not happy with it.

I have lots of nape hair that I dislike, and have even thought about laser hair removal for it back in the day. Thankfully I didn't, and now I'm considering use of this nape hair to fill in those gaps in my hair. I don't have much in terms of hypopigmented scarring, because my skin is quite fair. But the dark hair to fair skin contrast makes the gaps obvious.

Since I don't like my nape hair, I was hoping to use it for a repair of my donor area. I understand that in some people, nape hair diminishes over time, but 1) I don't foresee it happening in my family, as my father and grandfathers all have their nape hair still and 2) If i lose it in 10-20 years down the road, it would still be worth the years I got out of it.

My question is: Aside from Dr. Umar, who else is recommended for doing these procedures?

Also, I know there is risk of scarring for any puncture of the skin, but how does the nape usually heal? Dr. Umar said nape extractions work very well and don't leave visible scarring if done correctly. I already have a scar from an unrelated medical surgery in the area of my nape, which is likely to stand out more than punch extraction scars, but I'd still like to avoid it if possible (e.g. with use of Acell and PRP?)

Thanks all

there is no such thing as a HT surgery (FUE or FUT) without scarring - the degree of scarring or ability to visibly notice it to the naked eye may be the difference - yes if you shave your head to a 1 or 2 guard or worst yet, bic shave your head, FUE scarring will be evident, that's a fact you should have been aware of before having surgery

My doctor ensured me multiple times that this would not be an issue. But clearly, it has become one.

Is my analysis of the picture correct, or am I over-reacting here? The extraction points just seem to line up with my bald spots now. My density doesn't look great either but was never ever told this.

I'm now at 2 months post-op.

I'm starting to really worry. I still have huge gaps in my donor area, and the hair is at a reasonable length (1-2 guard)

I took a look at immediate post-op pics, and compared to my hair today after a haircut. I'm worried that my doctor did not warn me that I was a low-density patient. Please look at the pictures attached. They took 3 FUs (circles in blue) and the corresponding area is now bald and devoid of any hair, leaving a huge gap. Am I freaking out for no reason, or am I on to something?

I have coarse black hair, but i'm not sure if my density was actually good or not, and I was never warned.

Everyone has told me that at 2 months, its still early and I can't tell how it will look. But i have several of these gaps in my hair now, and even at a reasonable length cut, it looks bit gaps. I'm losing hope and am hoping that someone has some positive insight.

I don't see much abnormal about the OP's pics. Who gets a HT and then friggin shaves his head to basically the bone? I mean no sh*t you will see scarring then. You are going to see every single nick or ding or scar you've had from anything over your whole life. You just don't do it. However, I'd love to see pics of his hair at a number 2 guard or higher....I'd bet the scars would be completely unnoticeable.

Sometimes people want to cut their hair in a certain hairstyle that requires shaving parts of your head. For me, I was told that there would be no visible signs of surgery, and unfortunately I believed the doctor. Now I'm hoping that things will improve with time because I want to continue wearing my hair that way. Thats why i'm asking.

Sorry, missed your reply.

 

Actually, I have Troubles to understand it. Your "Problem" is made for SMP especially with the fade. It will look and feel perfect when made right.

 

Regarding your holes. Yes, they look a Little wide (maybe you just tend to wider scaring? Could be an Illusion as well. I would make a attempt on a "MS PAINT" an just add one black dot in the middle of some white aeas. Maybe it appears normal. Or at least you know.

I just really don't want to pigment my head, thats all. I am just hoping now that the scars will contract and fade. I'm wondering even if i scar widely, will it eventually contract and become smaller?

Actually, you don't look terrible. Many untrained eyes would not even see that this is the results of a hairtranspant. Just Google "Steph Curry hair" and you will see his hair in the back looks similiar to yours (just from his hair characteristics).

 

Anyhow, it appears that the clinic went very low to your nape this might be causing your issue especially when you wear your hair that short.

 

Solution for me: Just wear it a little longer. No one will see it. If you for any reason have to have it that short. Wait 12 month and go for SMP in the scars.

 

Good luck and please do not make yourself to much of an headache.

Gasthoerer,

Thanks for the reply.

I am not so concerned about the nape in particular, but if you look all over, there are dots everywhere. I refuse to get SMP because it will look very bad if i continue to cut my hair in a skin fade.

Do the holes look too big for 0.85mm to you as well, possibly suggesting shock loss?

Thanks HLS2015. I'll try to be patient.

My holes do not seem to be hypopigmented, do they? I was attributing it more to missing hair follicles than actual hypopigmented scarring. I usually don't scar when I cut my skin, so I'm hoping i'm lucky in that regard.

Also, it seems that there is hair surrounding every single extraction that was lost. Is it common to see that in all the extraction sites? Or did the doctor use a punch that was larger than said? It seems like for every extraction he did, 2-3 surrounding hairs were lost in the process.

Thanks for the reply.

I don't have any beard hair. All I have is semi-coarse leg hair, and a bit of hair around nipple and stomach areas.

How much did your donor improve before you did body hair transplant?

I don't think I'm low in density. I just need hair follicles to replace those visible gaps. Would leg hair not be feasible at all? It's more of a visual filler when I cut my hair short than it is for density.

Is this unusual for 500 extractions? I've seen cases where way more extractions were done and it looks great. 0.85mm punch was used and healing was uncomplicated to this point.

I don't see why you can have the gaps filled. I'm just concerned about you being told you won't have any signs of surgery. What do you mean when you say you shave? Do you mean to the bone or do you buzz with a clipper?

I mean to the bone. And I made this very clear at multiple consultations with the doctor.

I will be making a post with regards to that in the near future.

Would that leg hair look natural if i keep my hair short (again, i like to keep it razor shaved or at least very very short). Or would it look bad? Its not that I'm lacking density...its more that I need to fill in those gaps. I'm just afraid leg hair would be too thin and not give that nice "stubble" look when shaved down.

Im currently only a month post-op. I've been reading about telogen effluvium and was wondering if that applies to my case; if this is the reason why i have gaps in my donor area (because the surrounding hairs have been shocked). I am in my late 20s, and I read that it more commonly affects younger males. So I was wondering if this will get better in the next few months. I only had 500 double hair grafts taken, which I've been told is very small, but the damage looks huge.

Hi all,

I have recently had a FUE procedure with a doctor who promised me that there would be no visible signs of an FUE procedure having been done. I've since shaved my head, and of course, i see very obvious signs of my FUE procedure. While they do not look like hypopigmentation scars, there are obvious gaps in my hair now because there are missing hair follicles.

I am currently just over a month post-op.

I was wondering if leg hair could be used to fill in those gaps and camouflage the gaps. I often get a skin fade hair cut, which requires razor shaving the bottom half of my hair.

I know people don't usually put hair back into their donor area, but in this case, I need to, and I was wondering if this was possible. Pigmentation is not an option for me because of how I cut my hair.

Thank you