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Almost forgot. >>> There is a vitamin booster for men that actually boosts their healing and immunity. Perhaps this is the thing we need to recover faster from procedures? I will look into this more and report back. Hope the FDA cleared this for guys like us who need it!!!! Will report back!

I know it's you Taurusrisen. Your trademark move is to ask questions, argue with those just trying to give you advice and with whom you disagree with, and call those people trolls when they call you out. Everyone are just trolls aren't they?

 

Have you still not had your procedure with Rahal yet? You've been going backwards and forwards on him for years now.

Oh boy! Meds someone, meds!

Also visited a site by dr. diep that was mentioned earlier in this postings. Hes very good from what I've seen. I thik hes in california san fran area. When i visit there next month I'll be checking his work out and visiting his office. He did this procedure on a man in his 50s that looked stellar.

Which comes to my next point. Even though you may be healthy I believe that you need to be very healthy to get the best treatment possible. Eating right, veggies, protein, your greens, vitamins and exercising. I read somewhere that people who dont take care of themselves wont experience a good procedure. Young guys may be able to get away with it but may still be prone to getting less than great procedures done.

Maybe vitamin injections could boost your system and will help your body cope more from the ill effects of hair transplants maybe? Would anyone like to chime in about this and oiffer their opinion?

Calling everyone a troll and the manner in which you talk to people trying to give you advice is the dead giveaway that you are Taurisrisen. I have alerted David, so hopefully you will soon be gone.

You must be of your meds and trying to start trouble with this fable. Go ahead if you think i'm this risen person. I dont know who david is. Another made up imaginary friend of yours Ill bet. Incredible people this site has. geeeezz!!!

This guy is just Taurisrisen under a new alias

The who now?? Dont get it

Top 10 lists are just a matter of opinion. My results are as good as any on this site and my doctor (Nader) isn't even on here.

 

I'd say your best chance of getting a "crazy dense result and a cool hairline" would be from Dr. Diep. Since he's in California everyone wants a super youthful hairline so that's what he's good at.

I agree with you. But in general anyone's top 10 list of docs will contain a mixed list of similar docs, give or take a few.

Dr. Diep is cool. I saw his videos and pics. Only wish he and the other best docs would produce consistent work. Meaning, you always have that stubborn uncontrollable issue with shock loss that can occur with anyone at any time. Wish they'd eliminate it completely from human existence! If they did the hair transplant industry would be far more trusted.

I mostly agree with SKYLAR....good sound logic....but there is a bit more to the story about Hasson/Wong FUE.

 

If I have another surgery, and want to get it done in North America I would certainly return to Hasson/Wong for my first FUE surgery....ok I am biased....but I just trust these guys are going to be exceptional at anything they perform.

 

Hasson/Wong FUE:

"I admit that we have been slow to jump aboard the FUE bandwagon"

https://hassonandwong.com/setting-new-standards-fue/

H&W is amazing at what they do. I like Lorenzo's work. Lorenzo has produced the most dense work I've ever seen in a patient. And the patient was a norwood 3 or 4. Dorin does great work too. Too bad his practice is far from me!

Recently I've looked at work from Turkey and its scary! I seen a video where a Turkish doc packed so many follicles on the scalp that I almost caught a heart attack. I wouldnt trust those guys.

He stated in post number 3 on this thread that it doesn't matter if it is strip or FUE as long as it is a "crazy dense result and a cool hairline." So, I don't think it matters as long as he gets a crazy dense result and a cool hairline.

This user doesnt believe that a dense hair and hair line are possible with the top 10 docs. I think he needs to get in touch with reality.

The OP made his mind up before he asked the question. I think the general consensus by most seasoned posters is that there is a difference, only the perception of these differences will sometimes be different based on who is looking.

This user obviously thinks his opinion is the only one that matters even if hes lost touch with this medical field in his advanced age. Everyone agrees that any of the top 10 docs will produce similar quality work.

OK then...you should figure out who is in the top ten and then choose the cheapest. Using your logic you can not go wrong and you will save a lot of money. You should also expect a crazy dense result with closed temples regardless of your age or norwood level because you've seen pictures on the internet that prove that it is achievable.

 

 

Seriously though, it is really obvious you do not know a lot about hair transplantation, and that is OK, but it is just a little annoying that you are so cocky about what you think you know without realizing how much you don't.

Well then you should follow my logic and you should expect a great transplant from the top 10 surgeons. You would save lots of money too. You should also expect dense hair no matter your age since you agree with my logic and are confident with my expertise.

But seriously, its obvious you don’t know squat about hair transplant procedures, not even from the top 5. Its normal but weird that you think you know more than the doctors themselves at your advanced age knowing how out of date you are with the latest in hair tech.

so are you asking an opinion from those that obviously know a LOT more then you do about HT'? or are u simply making a statement based on a few pictures uve seen over the internet? no offense but u sound really ignorant!:rolleyes:

Are you trying to troll in a thread that you obviously know nothing about? Or are you bored and unemployed? No offense but you sound like a youre on serious psycho on meds.

Not sure why you made this thread when you're just disagreeing and trying to cause an argument, but a lot of types of plastic surgery don't even have 10 GOOD surgeons/clinics, let alone great/amazing ones, so the idea that there is a bit of a quality difference between surgeon #1 and surgeon #10 isn't exactly farfetched.

I'm not trying to cause an argument. Whats wrong with disagreeing with someone? Youre trolling here and I believe thats against forum rules.

If you really dont feel comfortable with this thread youre always free to leave.

I respectfully disagree with indistinguishable results among "the top 10," regardless of who you include in that crew of docs.

 

Just my opinion

Disagree all you want but the results in quality are the same. Proof is in patient's pics.

I used to have some pics and a gallery and also was an active poster, but removed them about two years ago after being flamed by a certain user. Just got tired of it.

Before my procedures (first one was failed one at Bosley) I was around Norwood 2A-3 with receding high forehead and receding temples but now around NW 2ish with temple corners and now temple peaks also corrected. Quite happy where I'm at given my age.

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No offense but something about your post doesnt resonate with sense. If you had a user troll you, you couldve easily reported it and that user wouldve been banned or at least given an infracture.

Being many in number I'm also confused about your transplant procedures. Looking at your thumbnail pic, you dont need any more procedures. Why would you need to get another procedure done then? Something doesnt sound right here.

Btw, Lorenzo of Spain is definitely in the top 3 when it comes to hair transplants.

Again, no offense but something about your story isnt flowing right.

I'm of the opinion that there are discrepancies in results, even within the top 10. Who's to say it's not a "top 3" then a "top 4-8 " etc?

When we're talking about top 10 or 5 or that matter theres no such thing as discrepancies. Skill and experience being high will produce indistinguishable results.

Not really. Just because they have the same skill level doesn't mean that skill isn't specialised into different areas of surgery.

Sme may be better at FUE, more experienced with repair surgery than others, have more experience with different ethnicities (since ethnic groups have different shaped hair follicles), like sharing the whole head vs no shave and etc.

You should stay within the top 10, but find that surgeon in there that suits what you want.

But whats the difference in a doc specializing in FUE versus a doc specializing in FUT if they both deliver the same quality HT? If theyre Top 10 delivering the same quality I could care less who specializes in FUT or FUE. The most important thing is that they give me the best work possible. As long as my hair is crazy dense with a cool hairline FUT or FUE wont matter since the result will be the same.

Would you guys agree that with the top 10 HT surgeons it doesnt matter who to go to since they deliver the same quality of HT?

Lol thanks mate:) the density is great in all honesty, I couldn't be happier! Never thought when I started the journey at 26 that by 35 I'd get this kinda result, it's beyond my wildest dreams considering I was a diffuse thinner and had little hair from crown to hairline! My hair is pretty straight, maybe a slight bit more wavy since the transplants (it was completely straight naturally). I've always had pretty fine hair, it's probably denser now than it ever was naturally to be honest, all thanks to dr hassons unbelievable surgical ability and finesse. Not many surgeons can dense pack to this extent as reliably as dr hasson IMO, he has an innate ability to knock it out the park every time he takes a swing!

Damn!!! This is better than other doctor's HTs.

But one crucial concern I got is that looking at Hasson's work he doesnt seem to invest in good hairlines except for yours. Why did he give you a good deep hairline but for the rest of the patients he hasnt done the same thing? This is very strange and concerning.

IHair transplant surgery has come along way and can do wonders however, hair transplant surgery is still a case of supply and demand. Regrettably, there's a lot less supply then demand for those with advanced balding.

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Among other issues like shock loss.

waiting for cloning.. and I bet I'll still be waiting in ten years ha..

They already have cloning. But not yet available to the public. Sadly, one of the biggest hurdles new medical tech has to overcome is the stupid FDA regulations and compliance standards. Assessing the risks, safety, research, finding the right amount of dosage, etc, are requirements the FDA is infamous for employing which delay crucial, much needed medication to the general public. From what I read, the FDA is more about politics than safety. Thats another obstacle to keep mindful of.

If you are going to end up a NW 7 with thinning donor area, it does not matter how good the Dr is. You are going to lose the transplanted hair and will never have enough to even get light coverage, since you don't even have enough to get coverage in just the donor area.

Exactly! Unfortunately current technology isn't sophisticated enough to completely counter the ill effects of genetic programming, even with some early successes with gene therapy in certain medical conditions, for example. Like I said, technology is the only missing link that will have to provide a solution to these problems in areas like deep balding where skill will most likely fail.

Advanced in technology would be nice, but today all you need are skilled surgeons.

 

I've read up on this:

Ultra Refined Follicular Unit Hair Transplantation is the ultimate hair transplant procedure.

 

Quote from that page:

"Ultra refined follicular unit grafting raises the bar for physicians and their staff. This delicate and demanding hair transplant procedure requires more skill and careful attention to be performed properly. The smaller and more tightly packed incisions require more closely dissected follicular unit grafts that are carefully trimmed under microscopes. These small and densely packed incisions are also more difficult to place the grafts into."

 

Here's an interesting thought:

I do believe people with money can get the best surgeons to perform the transplant. And that they also do the ALL work that the technicians (who usually place the grafts in) would do. What I'm trying to say is that hire only skilled 'surgeons' (a team of surgeons) instead to do the work. Because I think that the technicians somewhere sometimes can do sloppy work.

The problem with ultra refined follicular grafts is that you still run into the same 2 traditional problems encountered with any hair transplant technique. The first being shock loss and the second the risk that the grafts might not grow. Even though I agree that it may still increase your chances of getting a good transplant relative to the old dinosaur techniques of the 80s and 90s, skill alone still DOES NOT remove these risks. Technology, not skill necessarily, will most likely provide a patch against these issues.

That said, the question now is who are the best surgeons?

Is there anything in the works in hair transplant technology to mimic the same amount of hair density found in say a 20 year old? To eliminate shock hair loss?

But the patient has more weight than the doctor. In this case the doctor should not be given equal footing with the patient. Its good to see a forum dedicated to fairness. But when it comes to hair transplant procedures being delicate in nature where the patient is completely affected by its unpredictable outcome, patients must be given more precedence than the doctor. Personally I have talked to doctors who have been less than forthcoming in their honesty. Unfortunately the hair transplant industry is fraught with beguilements, cover-ups and lies to garner revenue for doctors at their patients expense. A good yard stick to measure the patient-doctor dynamic would be 70/30, that is, grant 70% credence to the patient and 30% to the doctor.

Are there permanent hair wigs where you dont need further treatment?

Shampoo,

 

They used to have a mechanism where it basically tied a knot underneath the skin after the implant penetrated through the skin itself. This way the knot was larger than the hole it made on entry, and it couldn't be dislodged.

Shampoo? ok..

But are there companies that provide rich hair density?