Fue123

Yea best case scenario is its folliculitis but as nick said it really doesn't look typical for folliculitis. It could be the opposite of cobble stoning...

I think we have all heard of stories like this. If you know how to travel and not be an idiot in a foreign land I think you'll be fine.

Dr. Hakan

Thank you for taking the time to address my question. I have a few more, if you don't mind? In one of your videos I see you've define a 1 square cm area and are you the pen implanted to implant what appears to be 120 grafts per cm2. This appears to be an amazing feat. Many on here have questioned this as typically we see 50-60 g/cm2 implanted. Can you comment on this since many have donor density that is far less than that.

On another note, I'd like you to answer if you could the difference between scalp tissue and the skin adjacent to it on ones forehead. I notice that if I buzz my hair the hair containing scalp tissue appears to be slightly raised in comparison to the skin on my forehead. Do we know what accounts for this phenomenon?

I ask, because I noticed, that when I began to lose hair in my temples that this characteristic of the raised scalp tissue was also lost. The scalp area that became bald took on the appearance of the forehead skin. Additionally, in talking to those who have had HT and the hair has grown out they've stated that the hair appears to grow from 'normal skin' and not the previous 'scalp tissue' that native hair grows from.

I know that scalp tissue has considerably more blood supply which is why head wounds bleed more and also connective tissue that allows for the mobility of the scalp but am unsure if this is what yields that characteristic I describe.

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Ritwick,

According to the study it was done once a week with a 1.5mm dermaroller. In addition, the day of microneedling, the participants in the study did not apply minox.

 

Unfortunately, the study did not specify the type of roller.

 

As far as using this after your transplant, it would be in your best interest to speak to your doctor. Hope this helps.

Wow a 1.5 is deep. I don't know how you can derma roll with that size needle without first numbing the area. I actually tried with my .5 on my crown and it killed. I used a topical numbing cream and it was tolerable but I can't imagine doing it with a 1.5.

No it does not

I would contact your doc this could be folliculitis and you will need antibiotics to treat it. if it is it's not a problem.

You could consider taking 1mg every other day and see if your symptoms abate without affecting the efficacy of the result on your hair. Perhaps you should consult your prescriber on this.

Dan, its certainly up to you, but I feel like the damage to the result presentation far outweighs the damage done to your clinic from other clinics stealing your result photos. How many patients do you think you lose to these clinics stealing your results? Then, how many who could be your patient and are doing research on these forums, but then dismiss the clinic due to presentation?

 

A possible solution could be an Archoa board behind the patient or even just not putting the watermark on the head.

 

I could be the odd man out and the only person that doesn't like it. I don't know.

Absolutely couldn't agree more. Why not put it across the forehead and not the hairline? After all aren't your intentions to showcase the actual hair? I mean you could put a black stamp across his forehead and we could still easily see the actual work.

And my dog has hair, and pretty good hair at that!!!

mine has fue but yes they are dense packed! Lol.

Watch the video we are talking what appears to be 120 grafts placed in a 1cm2 box with the choi implanter. Perhaps this is body hair and so they are packing more in because of lower yield. I have no idea but I would love for a hakan rep to shed some light on the situation.

Would be great if this forum had a tagging feature like fb, does it??

Come on guys???? Why would you need 120??? My dog doesn't have that much hair!!!

Not that it's necessary just impressive skill wise. I've seen what *appears* to be some amazing transformations on some high NW patients from him.

You sure your dog doesn't have fur?

spex i totally understand what your saying about the line but lookin at that is it worth going on meds if thats the best result, a improvement but lets be honest guys still bald, point im tryin to make is is it really worth the health risks if thats the results we are looking at, in daylight that is gonna to be extremly thin, the stage im at at the moment i have alot more hair then the gentleman above but if i dont do something i will definately be there in the future, because i have more hair and im 25 can i expect a much better result, how is propecia for the front of the head for thickening up

It sounds like you need to reevaluate your expectations. What is your current NW level? And what is your goal? You are also 25 and life as well as expectations are considerably different.

Update with clinic photos:

First four are pre op and the last one is hairline design...

The anxiety is a common reported side effect from minox. If you get it I would reduce to one time per day and use a bit less of the foam making sure to work in well. This has helped me. I also used to get headaches from it as well...

This is very interesting. This may support the theory of 'malnutriton' as discussed here:

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I found this articles by Dr. Jeffrey very insightful too. Wonder if there is a connection here.

wow nice results man, they look very dense at just 3 month out even with the buzz cut espeically the one you were wearing a tank and the close up shots , i think you will have great results by the time it's all grown in.

 

mine is still very thin at about 7 month out , FUE for about 2000 in the frontal third and similar sq/cm. hopefully im a late bloomer and more to come in the store for me in the next few months

Hi, save.

Thanks. You may be looking at a week or two post op before the grafts all shed. The last one where the redness is more visible is the most recent. I'm closing in on 3 months and I have some early sprouters and new growth coming in but nothing like that pic

Who was your doc? Do you have some pics to share? I'd be interested in following your progress.

I would be more concerned about the lack of density but obviously there should not be doubles in the hairline.

Agreed. Can you give more details of the case. How far along are you post op? Is it possible more singles will come through in front of this?

If you really wanted to permanently get rid of that graft with minimal/no scarring you could use electrolysis to remove it permanently.

Yea I agree with all of you. It is hard to believe and also unnecessary. However, there is another video where he measures it with a tape measure. It's definitely NOT an inch. I know that much. And like someone said they use metric there. I believe it is hakan and I would love to hear from him on this. It appears to be the Choi implanter pen.

I saw a case of his where he did a total of 8500 grafts. There is a video of it. I believe 1500 were body hair. Still, that means nearly 7k were standard donor fue. The guy basically show no signs of ever balding. Perhaps there are thin spots but it was some transformation.

We need more clarity on this for sure.

A loose fitting cap should be ok so long as it is new and clean.

I don't think it's an inch though. Look at it in relation to his finger. It's not larger then his finger tip you can see a few times his finger approximates the area and it gives you a frame of reference.

Look forward to seeing your final results FUE123!

 

- Nathaniel

Thanks bud, coming up on 3 months soon...

Although I just watched again and I'm not sure that is a cm... Have a look ant let me know what you think.

I watched the videos and didn't hear anything about grafts/cm2, however I could have missed it. Anyways 120grafts/cm2 is grater than natural density so either you or someone else is mistaken, or they are referring to hairs/cm2.

There is a site hairtransplantation-turkey dot com

Go to the video section and watch the ones where there is an implantation counter. It appears, from watching that video, that they are getting quite a few grafts in there.

MTL,

if price is a huge concern for you which it appears to be why not consider dr. Hakan I think he does amazing fue work. You can plan your travel ahead of time, take off work and cost is 2euro a graft.

120+/cm2, are you sure about that? Are you referring to hairs or grafts? I have never heard of anything over 70 grafts/cm2.

Watch the videos on his site it documents it intra op as he is implanting into a 1sq cm area

Spanker, good point on the travel. I've been to turkey before but not since the recent developments. Although for a HT it might be best to get in and get out with out any 'travel'.