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So is it 1X a year, is it 1X a month for 3 consecutive months, then wait a year? Is there an optimal amount of time b/w PRP injections?

ps. When I try to search this forum it goes to members. How do I search this question on this form??

should i be posting this somewhere else?

no, i wasn't. Sorry to put the site on blast. I really find it informative, but after an hour of searching I got pissed.

I've been hearing that there are autoimmune alopecias, but it seems like these are patches of hair that fall out and eventually grow back. I guess my question is, is someone who has a receding hairline always going to be androgenetica or could it be another alopecia?

the search function on this site really sucks. I click search this forum, type in the box a phrase ,eg. tofacitinib citrate, and it goes to advanced search for MEMBERS. WTF? Can anyone find this post b/c I had a question there and I want to see if there's an answer. thx,

I'm about 2 months post op, still have some grafts just moochin off my head, sucking up my nutrients, using MY blood supply and not growing or doing jack shit. How do I kick these freeloading bastards off my head, or should I? I feel like an enabler. ANyone else have this? :eek:

So I'm 6 weeks post op and I still have some grafts that aren't doing s***, just sitting there like, "is it cool if I hang here?" And I'm like, "yeah, if you'd f***ing grow!" But they don't, and I want these moocher grafts outta my head. Should I get some actualy exfoliating soap and do this? I'm using hair cycle and it doesn't have any rough ingredients for this so should I get some certain shampoo??

Who knows, this man could have explosive growth and then every surgeon will recommend dumping anti-freeze on newly transplanted grafts.

Day 8- OMFG, "where's the biotin spray and scar gel?!" This was repeated by me 7 times to 7 different people, at 7:30pm, a cowardly UPS man left the package on my door and ran.

DONOR AREA: Apply scar gel. Up until now I'd put NO PRODUCT on it. To deal with the itching I'd lightly rub the back, occasionally make a saline solt'n of a teaspoon of salt in 8 oz's of bottled water, dabbed it on, or put a bag of ice over it. The scar gel has aloe and some other crap, it helped with the itching so I stopped doing all the other stuff.

RECIPIENT AREA: Sprayed biotin once an hour. Now, at this point I still had some scabs and the goal for me was to get them to come off over the next 3 days. I would LIGHTLY rub my little grafts and GENTLY massage the loose scabs off being OH-SO careful not to take any grafts with them.

Took Vitamin C (1,000mg) 2X a day. I heard that the biotin is like a little chemical peel and gets the scabs off, but can turn the recipient area red. Somehow, I've heard that the Vitamin C helps with the redness so I started taking it while using the biotin.

Had an afternoon coffee. Coffee raises blood pressure and that's bad... in the beginning. By this time my theory is that you want to get the blood circulating in and around your head to nourish your little babies.

Day 9-10: REPEAT

Day 11: REPEAT except... The scabs all fell off by day 10, so to reward my scalp, I threw the baby shampoo away and used big boy shampoo. I'm using hair cycle shampoo/conditioner. It's supposed to stimulate anagens. What's that? I dunno, but I feel like my anagens need stimulating.

Day 12: REPEAT

Day 13: While I still have 75% of the biotin and over half of the scar gel, it's finally time to wean myself off of all these products so I can heal like a man. So I quit cold turkey, I take one last Vitamin C, now I'm off that too. Time to get vitamins from food. The recipient area is not dry or flaky and the grafts are still in tact, though they'll likely fall out over the next few weeks I'm told. The donor area looks completely healed.

Dude out.

Hairs are taken from the back and sides b/c they're 'safe.' AND if you happen to have no family history of crown balding and off-the-charts density there like I do, then that's safe too. Do you understand?

Now, it seems you need refresher course on what constitues 'constructive' feedback so you don't keep patting yourself on the back.

Constructive Feedback 101:

Step 1: Feedback should balance negative with positive. For instance, 'Hey, Dude, your donor region looks like it's really healed in such a short amount of time. Now here's my erroneous opinions.'

Step 2: Feedback shouldn't be opinions. For instance, 'looks odd to me,' or, 'does not look clean,' or, 'looks like they've been harvested out of the safe zone.' Wow. You sure like to look.

Step 3: Opinions shouldn't be erroneous. For instance, 'looks like they've been harvested out of the safe zone.'

And finally, please try to understand that when you post pictures, the last thing you want is some anonymous arm-chair critic throwing up negative and incorrect assumptions about your transplant. Maybe you've commented like this before and not had your ass verbally handed to you, but it's only b/c they chose to not confront you and instead were privately hurt. Well, this homie don't play that.

The only evidence I've seen is anecdotal, but it's at least a hundred people all saying the same thing, that they couldn't explain their sudden hair loss, then it grew back, then they got botox again, then they lost hair same time span and do not believe it's coincidence.

@driver: Did you do botox before your HT or after? And how soon after did you do it? Maybe this has something to do with it.

Nice! I went golfing yesterday, hardly a work out, but I sweated like a mofo. I think I'mma renew my gym membership and start pumping up! My only fear is my muscles will grow so big I won't fit through the door.

don't expect to come at me with your negativity and be greeted with a positive response. You were wrong with regards to your assessment of the safe zone, and you were wrong with regards to why the safe zone matters. Off-the-charts density in the back matters b/c IF those hairs were extracted out of the safe zone they would still be safe b/c it's the follicle and not the location that determines DHT susceptibility. Nevertheless, I've looked at your 10 day post op photos and they look great, and then your hair didn't grow, so you might wanna rethink your myopic view on what determines a successful HT.

Just searching the internet I found two forums of patients complaining of losing hair after botox injections. YET, botox does not list hair loss as a side effect. Is there any SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to back this up or is this a massive coincidence all these people think their botox injections caused hair loss?

so... where's the 8 month update? Is it safe to assume when the pt. abandons his thread, the HT really didn't turn out so hot?

Wuddup!

I'm day 10 post op, scabs have fallen off, feeling good. I'm thinking day 12 to start doing some push ups, sit ups... I've read threads dealing with this, but it's all FUT and their concern about donor scar stretching. Well, I got 99 problems but a donor stretch ain't one. So... when did you do push ups after FUE? Did you? That's why you're flabby, man.

@sucks- I checked up on what you said about the safe zone. The hair in the back of my head has, and I'm quoting the doc, "Off-the-charts density," and I have no family history of crown balding. B/c it's the follicle and not the location that determines DHT susceptibility, there's no danger if some of those hairs were harvested outside of the safe zone. My doc knows better than you why he took them, and you should know more about what you are talking about before you try to rain DHT on my hair parade.

Nice! Thx, guys! I was worried that maybe the doc took some out of the safe zone, but the hair in the back of my head is steller, doc said the density in the back is "off-the-charts," at 116, and I have no history of crown baldness so I'm thinking he knows what he's doing.

I understand. What I don't understand is whether DHT susceptible hair is susceptible b/c of the hair follicle itself, or the location where it's located.

Does DHT act upon all hair on the head equally or is it location specific???

What I mean is, the hair on the side of the head is impervious to DHT, but if you do NOT bald on the crown and never will, is that hair also impervious to DHT? I'm asking b/c I'm curious about the safe zone. If hair is transplanted out of the "safe zone", is it "unsafe" if you would not lose hair back there anyway? Does everything change once those hairs are in a location where you are susceptible to losing hair? This goes back to my original question.

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I did it myself with tweezers, a hand mirror and SoCo.

Hello fellow baldies,

Who knows the secret to getting good results? Me neither, but I think some post op stuff can be done to help. The theme is moderation. I'm on day 7.

Day 1, HOUR 1: Coffee! Oh yeah, coffee, why? B/c my head was ON FIRE and the 800mg of Ibuprofen needs caffeine to really pump that pain relief through your veins to your head. Will you bleed more? Who cares? You're already bleeding and the pin pricks are over, but your skull is about to explode. VANILLA LATTE BABY!

HOUR 2: Go into a Wendy's. Family stops eating and talking, look at me in silence. I wink, go into the bathroom, take a dump, spray ATP on recipient area, repeat EVERY HOUR (not the dump part). Why ATP? I don't know, but I can tell you from growing weed hydroponically that before the little plant roots hit the water you need to give them some water from above to keep `em alive. That's what I think ATP spray does until the hairs dig into the blood circulation. Plus, I've read research where it outperforms saline solution over the 4 days it takes the hairs to dig in. I walk out of bathroom, they try to act like I don't look like Dexter.

I'm HOME: Watch a lot of TV with your head tilted back, wrap a towel around for neck support. Don't lean forward, don't bend down. Find a slave, make her cook LEAN PROTEIN AND GREEN VEGETABLES. I hate vegetables! I ate chicken and brocoli. When you're done eating, give the tray of discarded food back to your slave, watch TV until you sleep. Sleep with head titled back!

Also, do the stupid thing where you spread your thumbs from the middle going out toward your temples to drain the swelling. Do this for a couple minutes after you ice your forehead, NOT YOUR grafts, dummy.

Now, b/c I am not in a 3rd world country and can recover in a nice, clean environment, I threw the antibiotics in the trash. Not recommending this to everyone, but for me, I feel like the less stuff I'm putting into my system, the better; and from the research I've done, b/c of a generous vascular supply of scalp skin, scalp infections are VERY rare. Plus, I'd rather my body focus on my recovery rather than killing bacteria, some of which can be beneficial.

Day 2: REPEAT.

Day 3: OMG, I can finally shower and sleep in a bed.

SHOWER: first I shower, then I use a cup, dump luke-warm water all over head, lather baby shampoo in hand, DAB, not rub, onto recipient area and donor area. Come out of shower, take cool bottled water, rinse off in sink in front of mirror so I can see what I'm doing.

Now, go upstairs and sleep in a bed! Put plastic or something over the pillow so you don't bleed all over it. Sleep on back with a bunch of pillows.

Day 4: Oh good, the swelling in my forehead has dropped to my eyes and now I look retarded. I should have listened to myself on day 1 about doing the stupid thumbs thing to drain the swelling more.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT my donor area ITCHES! I gently rub my hand over the back of my head, man that feels good. Some tiny scabs come loose and off. Good riddance! I lift my eyebrows up and down to work out. Side note, DON'T DO THIS ON DAY 1. Holy fucking pain!

Day 5: HOLY FUCKING SHIT my donor area STILL ITCHES! I take teaspoon of salt, mix in 8 ounces of bottled water, dump that shit over the back of my head. Then I ice my donor area. COME ON!!!!

I resume drinking my cup of coffee a day to get my blood pumping and do my eyebrows lift to get feeling. I know we don't want to get a major RISE in blood pressure, which is why they don't advice exercise first couple weeks, but I believe getting the blood to your head sparingly is a REALLY GOOD idea.

Day 6- Donor scabs finally off! Thank God, now sore, no more itching. Now, stop being a pussy and lightly stroke those grafts in the shower. Crossing fingers... okay, they didn't all come out.

Day 7: Shower and gently MASSAGE those grafts. Stop being a pussy and touch it! While everyone preaches to be delicate, and you should, you need to not leave your new hairs all alone. Think if you were raised like that? You'd be even more awkward. You don't want awkward hair do yoU?

I'm gonna apply some scar gel to the donor area (it has aloe vera and crap) and will be transitioning from ATP spray to Biotin spray TODAY!! Up until NOW, I have been spraying the ATP on the recipient area every HOUR (okay, I forget a bunch) except when I'm asleep- I tried to train myself, too difficult. Now, I've heard that the biotin makes the scalp turn red if you had Acell and PRP, what's that? Look it up. So... I'm now going to start taking vitamin C twice a day to potentially counter act the redness. Up until NOW, I have put nothing in my body except lean protein/vegetables, coffee/juice/water. No vitamins! Stop being a lazy american and get your vitamins from the food.

Side note, red scalp at this point not so bad b/c I've heard that it means the blood is pumping there and is active and you want this for your little heard of new grafts.

So while there are things you can do Post Op, I'm trying not to OVER do it, and I'm trying not to Under do it, moderation. Hope that helps somebody, somewhere, somehow.

@hairshopeing. Thank you for your reply. Now my MAJOR concern is did the shockloss in the donor region occur FROM you rubbing it??!??!?!??!?!?!?!??! You had FUE?

I bought an anteater from a zoo for the graft extractions, and I trapped a woodpecker in my backyard for the incisions.

ah, ah, ah. I asked question first. And it's Sunday so I can't call the clinic. Dude! Repondez s'il vous plait.