LondonHTseeker

Because I'd rather wait a few months to see if the sides subside than lose more hair. Losing much more hair is a nightmare scenario for me. At the moment I've just got to decide whether to stay on Avodart or swap to Propecia. I think I'll give it a week or two more on Avodart and see how it goes...

If you've experienced no side effects I'd stay on it. Dr Wong told me himself that he's been on Propecia for 17 years with no ill effects.

I'm thinking of switching to Propecia after 6 weeks of Avodart use. I'm pretty sure the sides Im getting aren't psychosomatic, they're quite strong. The thing is I bought a 6 month supply, and I want to kickstart regrowth. But these sides are troubling.

I've been on Avodart for nearly 6 weeks. I've had sinus trouble, headaches, brain fog and boner issues. I'm going to stick it out for a while longer yet but so far I hate taking this BS!

Looks very natural, congrats! I'm getting this done myself from Milena Lardi in London next week, as a thickening procedure.

London,

 

Thanks! Looking forward to meeting you in-person in a few months. I thought about you earlier today. We had a gentleman come in for a consult, and he revealed he had a total of EIGHT hair transplant procedures in the past 20+ years. A combination of plugs and short, wide strips. His donor was a disaster. However, we mapped it out and realized we could still go in and steal grafts with mFUE. This is going to be his last procedure to finish everything off, and I don't think we could have done much of anything without the mFUE technique. Hopefully we'll be having a similar conversation in October!

Dr B,

That's great to hear. To cover the thinness in the middle of my head would enable me to forget about my hair (while still taking the meds daily) which is a great luxury to have and something you definitely don't appreciate till your hair goes (or in my case, starts to), as Dr Feller has previously noted - in one of his videos, I think. I look forward to seeing you both then. I hope to be an effective showcase for mFUE after a raped donor region from FUE.

Nice work Dr B, it's going to look great.

In my opinion it's a waste of money paying the extra to order the meds directly through a GP as there are reputable online pharmacies (often with a well established high street presence) offering it for far less.

I know for a fact I can post over 20 different threads pertaining to poor FUT scaring or those looking to repair their FUT scar with FUE. I have saved them in a separate folder.

 

I don't have ANY examples of someone getting FUE and looking for an FUT surgeon to repair them tho.

I'm an example. I'm hoping to get an mFUE from Dr Feller and Dr B because my donor region has been raped by FUE.

The thinness in your donor area looks like it's due to your hair type, which seems to clump together a bit thereby revealing the scalp where it has been thinned. More FUE will make it more obvious, I'd imagine.

Pretty amazing...

Does anyone know of a practitioner who does this in London, please? Skalp, HIS and Da Vinci clinics are all permanent SMP, which I don't want. I only want the temporary scalp pigmentation. Google isn't throwing up any London options.

I had a London consult with a nice and very professional woman from the Belgium ProHair trichopigmentation clinic yesterday. She was of the opinion that I have a good head of hair and don't need anything more doing, but I think she was being overly generous about my appearance - I'm definitely thinning in the crown and vertex and want to disguise it until I get it fixed for good with an HT.

It seems Joe's been banned. Sorry it came to that.

I had the appointment with Skalp. Nice guy...but for 3k pounds it doesn't sound like a great way to try cover the thinness on my head. Looks like I need to pin my hopes on getting mFUE from Dr Feller.

I am on Fin 1mg a day, have had no side effects and intend to carry on for 1 year, another 3 months. Just wondered whether anyone could advise whether I just stop or phase myself of it. On another note I am definitely convinced that going on the Fin has enhanced my end result.

 

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Dr Bhatti FUE Oct 2014 3305 grafts

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/178931-my-fue-dr-tejinder-bhatti-oct-2014-a.html

It's not an end result if you stop using Fin. By stopping, either abruptly or phasing out, you will sooner or later lose any gains the meds caused you.

Looking forward to seeing the updates on this. It looks like a smooth procedure.

This, from the HIS website, reeks of advertising spin:

"Ease of removal / reversal

Permanent pigments can be removed in their entirety using laser treatment. One session eradicates almost all of the pigment, whilst a second session is usually required to mop up any pigment deposits were missed. This applies to a professionally applied treatment. Badly made treatments using tattoo inks take much longer.

Temporary pigments, as used in tricopigmentation, cannot usually be removed by laser as they get very hot and can burn the skin. They will eventually fade on their own of course, however a complete removal via normal fading can take a year or more.

In other words, if there is a problem or the customer changes their mind, permanent scalp micropigmentation is entirely reversible, whilst temporary tricopigmentation removal is fraught with problems, and is usually not possible."

Joe, can you tell me the name of them please? Thanks!

Mine looks similar. I'd say it's early thinning, but I can't be sure with yours as from that photo alone it could be your natural density.

Thanks for the replies, Bill and Joe. I don't exactly have bald areas, it's just thinning. That said the loss is easily noticeable up close and under good lighting. I think I've been thinning slowly for a long time. I'm hopeful Avodart can reawaken some of the miniaturised hair...but I hate having thinning hair, so I don't want to wait a year to see if it regrows. I want to do what I can to fix it now, then if Avodart does cause the hair to strengthen that's a bonus. I have an appointment with Skalp for a consult soon, so I'll see what they say. I think they have an option to do a temporary ink which fades in a couple of years.

To clarify, I'm not talking about newly transplanted hair. I know you should wait at least 12 months after an HT before getting SMP into it.

I'm thinking the fragile hair which might be regrown by the Avodart is more deeply rooted than the SMP needle goes, so it shouldn't be a problem. Is that right, anyone?

So, I've recently started on Avodart and I'm hoping for some regrowth in my vertex and crown which are in the fairly early stages of thinning. I'm also looking into getting SMP into the crown and vertex scalp for the thickening effect. Is there any chance getting SMP into fragile hair follicles could kill them off and prevent them from regrowing on Avodart?

I'm looking forward to hopefully being one of the bigger sessions...fingers crossed.

I predict I would regret it considerably more if I had irreversible sides from it, no matter how slight the risk of them occurring is. Losing my hair this much at this age is hell and completely f****ng my entire psyche up, so obviously is a huge issue for me, however I imagine there are plenty of guys out there who really wish they'd learned to cope with baldness instead of putting their health and reproductive abilities at risk.

 

There might be and I do hope you are right, but the only things in the pipeline at the moment are Replicel/Shiseido & Bimatoprost...and they seems to be following the same paths as all the other "wonder cures" we've been promised....hype, hype...delay....nothing. Baldness at 25 makes one a horrible cynic...

Maybe I'm being over-optimistic about there being a practical alternative to Propecia within the next ten years, seeing as there's been no tangible breakthrough in the market for almost twenty years since Propecia's inception. But I don't accept the drugs companies and scientific researchers are content with settling on Fin. It's a full throttle capitalist race to the baldness cure pot of gold, and according to the constant drip of news articles (including over the last couple of days: https://globalcosmeticsnews.com/asia-australasia/1544/shiseido-claims-to-have-found-a-cure-for-baldness-available-from-2018 ) progress is fast being made.

TBH, I don't think you're being entirely balanced about the risks of being on Propecia. Hairloss is causing you hell, yet you seem to give disproportionate weight to the very small minority of people who claim permanent side effects after stopping Propecia. Life is full of risk, and over-mitigating it with speculative what-ifs is a mistake.

Well if the (what seems to me to be fairly slight) risk bothers you more than losing your hair then I guess that's the choice you make. I'm not sure about the drugs companies sticking with status quo so far as Fin is concerned; there may be even more profit to be made in an improved product coming onto the market.

In the same position ...kinda. Want to get a HT but been told by several people not to bother unless i'm on meds. Whilst I think Minox is never going to hurt, Fin is something I am concerned about. See below in the Hairloss treatments forum, I've posted about topical meds as a possibly option, hoping someone can advise on it!

Why not go on Propecia to try it out? Then stick with it if you don't get bad/persistent sides. Like I say, there may be another product on the market in five years or so, then you could switch to that.

...I say Propecia for life, but I'm sure something else will come along within the next ten years if not the next five.