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would any of the guys here who have done this multiple times recommend me to actually be greedy and fix my few areas that way I do not have to worry about hair even when wet or even when not styled, and be able to keep it short . Or should I forget it?

Here is my update almost 2 years later -Yes I am very happy with Dr Umar - I was lucky to have a lot of donor areas... - my procedure made my hair 3 times thicker - the hair quality improved in past year - I still bald spots that I have to carefully comb over or use some topick or wax or gel or something to cover it up - the crown I wish he put more hair there it looks thin - 2 areas behind my front hairline still look very thin overall I think my procedure is 80% success. Dr Umar treated me very well. I recommend him highly. He said he will give me a mini session to fix my old scar and add some hair to defective areas for free...I just couldnt schedule it in past year since I have no time plus I am afraid I will have to shave my hair again which is NOT what I want at all at this point Here are some new pics

my yield in general i think was 50% in some areas higher than others I think there is no significant growth but the hair is looking more mature and natural I havent had time to take specific hair pics, but I have general pics I will place soon when I come back from vacation I have been extremely busy , I think I wish that some areas were fuller. I am 90% satisfied but I wont be greedy for now.

OK i FINALLY HAD THE TIME to get to the forum and answer the last two questions . Sorry guys I didnt abandon you completely. 1- In response to redness it took 3 months for me. It depends on the color of your skin. If you are more brownish then yo won't have as much redness. If you are more light skinned you will. Also I had 4500 transplants so that is massive 2- I will be VERY honest with you. Eventhough I am an extremely confident man, I had to deal with this with a lot of courage and it was VERY VERY VERY difficult. I think that if you can take off 2 months at least it would be better. I personnally had make up on my head to try to cover, weird combos of different things I bought. I also had surgical caps a lot since I was a surgeon so I was looking for my surgery days Imagine that all this happened in my NEW JOB, new people it was CRAZY!!!!!! I will tell you the best way is being honest. Anytime I would see someone stare at my head I would say a joke , make fun of myself , i did mention transplant even to some patients of mine that were staring, to some nurses . it was a lot of stress. the outcome is so worth it. it is of note that I still have 2 small areas I call them the "holes" luckily they are behind the front line so I can hide them easily. Dr umar said he would fill them for me for free. But I am so satisfied now that I am afraid seeking perfection and ruining what I have. it is not worth it. plus short of cancer there is no way I would shave my head again!!!! I hope this message finds you. I wish I could lie to you but the first 2-3 months SUCK!!!!!! the results are WORTH IT

Yeah I do have a lo of nape hair, I had previously done 6 sessions of laser to get rid of it little did I know that I could use it for transplant. So it survived 6 sessions of laser! As far As my transplant it was 4500 grafts i think 500 were beard hair that he used as fillers out of 4000 I think less than half was nape hair and it was used for the hair line and temple areas. I am extremely happy with my sides, best and most natural look possible. It was initially looking rougher than my own hair but it now is getting nicer and smoother and I think my sides (temple areas look great). these areas were totally empty of hair since I was 18. As far as the rest of the hair I think he took it from my universal donor sites. The good news my donor areas seem to be still same , so thick, so when Dr Umar saw it he was himself surprised of how thick it still is I will actually soon publish a Video if I have time where I use the comb through my hair, it feels great especially if I use forming pommade cream by american crew, it kind of makes the hair stickier but still soft which almost glues hair together without the harsh gel effect , this way I can run my hands through my hair without a problem. I like to see more comments. Thanks atticus , aaron and taking the plunge.

several pics taken mostly from front cam (less quality) 2 of the pics are from back cam (very high quality) I am not partying enough to take pics so I am doing it all by myself hard to take pics But I tried different lights I am so satisfied, I visited umar today he thought it looked awesome! I was very happy I still have the scar from the butcher of my first transplant. Umar will fix it for me , he thought I have tons of more donor hair I am satisfied now , I might update at the 1 year! Thanks all

shorter hair today, 2nd haircut , one of the pics is extreme sunlight in marina del rey coastal house, two other in normal day light internal and 3 in bathroom strong lights It is getting better and better by the day you can see a lot of fine hair on the pic with my hand hiding my face , the left not as good as right also there are two holes and some areas of weak desnity cant see them very well in the pics , can see them better when I wake up in the morning I am starting to be able to style my hair in different directions, learning my new hair , some styles I havent done even when I was 18

It is almost 5 months ....in a week or two I hope to give another update with pics, holding on to the professional ones till about 6-8 months. I am just amazed now at the thickening process, many many more small hairs are showing, newer batch of pimples and growth... a factory of small hairs adding to the other ones filling gaps connecting edges and dots... I am just HAPPY , my personality changes back I can look people straight in the eyes, my confidence increased, I DO NOT WEAR HATS I AM THROWING THEM ALL IN THE TRASH ALL THE HATS, i am now ALLERGIC to hats, it reminds me of the bitter past. I still hope to fill one small 'hole' area on the left side....I wish Dr Umar also did my old scar filling like he promised, he said he can do that one day ....than I could cut my hair short from the back like I want it to be always super short. FUE is amazing, the quality of the hair is improving, as it is softening, thickening, straightening, blending ... The direction of the hair is fantastic small hairs are grwoing outside the actual hairline making the hairline look so natural, so amazing, I just cant stop describing the DAILY change in the hair....it is like a growing child , plants , awesomeness!

thank you all....I will be updating my hairloss website profile soon because it is starting to be impressive... Every day there is more hair than previous day it is just AWESOME

tired to take pics with 3 different cams ( all not that great yet) , but in different situations day light at work, home bright bathroom light and home darker light. The hair is still coming big time so many small little hair can not be seen on those pics. Let me know what you think so far

I am sad to see that your experience is different from mine. I am a physician and a surgeon. I Was very worried about choosing my doctor. I was unlucky to have had a surgery during the bad days which left me with a huge scar and very few additional hairs (1200 at the time I needed 2000-3000) 12 years ago. My experience with Dr Umar and his staff was totally different . It was very positive. I was treated like all the other patients. Eventhough I would have liked "special treatment" as a physician, I did not get it but I got their nice courteous day to day simple interaction. Although I have to say they tried to accomodate me with time. I have to admit that in this area of medicine where you do only ONE CASE PER DAY, and you do cases on same patient for 2-4 days in a row, you have to make people pay up front because people take things lightly and tend to cancel and as a result of this 1-4 days are down completely and the doctor has to pay for the whole staff. We do the same in the infertility area with patients scheduled for 2 hours first visit , if one patient does not show half the day goes down. His staff was very professional to me at all times. He is a confident but humble guy himself. I love the pay he speaks, I love his voice. He is reassuring but yet down to earth, humble eventhough he means what he says. He told me "he would give me a youthful nice hairline with enough density" he showed me a video of a guy who seemed to have similar baldness as mine and showed me the outcome of that guy. In all honesty now at almost 4 months I feel that his claims might actually come all true. MY hairline is perfect, I am waiting for more density...it is filling up day by day. I will be posting more pics on my main thread as they come. I am excited. I am really aggravated at negative threads that are out of anger and NOT out of objectivity. I hope that my hair keeps growing to show you that you the negative ones how WRONG THEY ARE. It is time to PRAISE surgeons with INOVATION and COURAGE.. I am tired of praising the ones that have been doing th esame thing over and over for 2 decades

3 1/2 months have passed. at 4-5 months I will take official pics perhaps at the doctor for now still some phone pics I am starting to relax because I think this transplant will work, i see a LOT of hair growing in between the ones that show on cam . In bright light I am still not satisfied but they the hair transplant results are far from complete I think i will be alright what do you guys think?

in answer to your question franky. Yes I have not missed work, in fact unfortunately I started a new job 1 month ago as a director of a program and practicing doctor. Do I look good ? NO! Do people notice? Off course! Does everyone notice ? NO I can tell some eyes don't wonder up there. ANd I think the shaving on sides made the lines less visible than before that ( i asked two people they agree) as far as why did I leave it a little longer in back, it is cause of my huge incision from previous surgery. thats why anyone who does open surgery is litterally crazy, I dont think FUE is better it is almost equal and without the scar...the scar is a huge issue for people who lilke short hair...If I didnt have that I would shave everything off and wait. the lighting is very strong but the cam is bad quality. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/attachment.php?attachmentid=11272&d=1292728642 this one is clearest . I will wait for my new phone i will take pics with it. meanwhile you can tell there is growth, its not enough to judge anything but you can clearly see the growth and hairline. nothing to be proud of yet , so I humbly lower my head till all is over, and if I dont get what I need I will live with this extreme handicap. Meanwhile I will keep updating very frequently

It will be 3 months in 2 weeks. Here I am now with some growth If it keeps growing like this I think it is good? what do you tihink>? Still getting pimples, I also cut the sides very very short to match the growing hair otherwise It was looking very odd Please comment Dont be nice ....tel me the truth how does it look for that Early

2 months, some new pics some new tiny hair i think u start seing ythem

7 weeks from surgery pics low resolution.. dont have a high resolution cam but some small hairs cant be seen clearly what do you think I know its super early I still think I am much balder after surgery than before it (mostly I hope due to the short length of hair)

well no pimple in my frontal area this week (they went on their own) but have pimples in my crown (some transplanted hair there too). As far as appearance I still look BALD , but the trend of appearance of new hair in my 7th week is not as prominent as last week except in my crown.

over the past 5 days (now exactly at 6 weeks), I have had the appearance of about 10-50 new small hairs per day! some at least 200-300 new total small hairs in the past week. They are sooooo tiny, so small but they are growing and some few ones are darkening. They look like baby or villus hair. it is exciting, although appearance wise I do not think they make any difference, but if I continue on this trend , it will be really good. Accompanying this resurgence from the scalp phenomenon is a new pimple every 2-3 days , small pimple they resolve 2 days later when the next one grows. I wish I had a high resolution cam to show you meanwhile I will wait a few weeks to see a significant change in appearance especially if that trend over the past 5-7 days is true. I know they say you dont grow hair till 10 weeks at least after the surgery, so I am still totally puzzled of whether this is some old hair or new hair, I will know soon! Also today was my first day at work (new job), noone is looking at me funny, noone is checking my scalp! ( I used to get more looks when I had more hair after my first transplant) Hair Restoration Site for secondtime

well I bought about 5-6 kinds. I started with all natural powder with some zinc oxide and other minerals in it. I felt that it closes the pores and gives a very matty look to skin. So I stopped it 3 days later. I do NOT recommend mineral concealers like other forums did at least not if you feel skin drying out or pores closing because this might affect your growth. The important is to use AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE and NOT to dehydrate or damage your skin. I tried foundation hydrating FX from sephora with a yellowish colour. It works. Clinique has beige or honney colour foundations as long as you use very little of anything you do. The best way to conceal a large area with little material is to buy a 30-35 dollar brush from make up store. You put the concealer or foundation on your hand and you use brush to touch up your redness. It works with Very little because of the yellowish tinge to it. Aloe cream, antihistamines might decrease redness but I think most of my redness is NOT allergic or infectious it Is forming tiny new vessels so many of them due to large number of grafts I received. so I dont think anything helps except time and I see it as a sign of health . My doctor recommended Minoxidil twice day I am using maybe too much of it? causing everything to be maximally red when I use it, but I feel it is the BESt as far as promoting the life of your transplants I still use finesteride day on /day off 2.5 mg cause I am so lazy to cut the 5mg into 4 . Not sure if it does anything at this point I am hoping for the best. I am not sure if I am a fast grower , I will see what the next few weeks hide for me.

i did not expect to update this today. We are now about 5 1/2 weeks after surgery. I have reported that I felt EXCESSIVELY bald and couldnt know whether it is cause of the length being so short ( and in the past length use to cover?) or whether it was shock loss. However no matter what it is yesterday and today,4 days after pimples starting, I am getting more pimples one at a time nothing too big, nothing seems infected. But I am getting a ton of small little tiny hair ....so small so fine but many of them. They are mostly felt by touch. I can see a lot of those small ones on the mirror. Nothing to even take a picture for because you cant see them but there is so many of them. are these my own old hair but now coming out after being suppressed from surgery or is this the new transplanted hair?? who knows, but in the area lowest in hairline where I know I didnt have any hair those for some reason did not completely shed and they are growing, some new ones are appearing too. again nothing to make a difference in appearance but I FEEL THEM DAMM IT this is a good sign no? I am excited (maybe, or should I) hehe. or should be sad for looking much balder than preop?

Sean thanks for asking getting some pimples I am a 5 weeks. I shaved my head last week completely except front second time. now its growing again, the redness is pink but the line (hairline) eventhough awesome if it had hair below it , is so apparent , it is a pink line as if My hairlines is painted. I have the redness concealed with a little concealer very small quantity I dont think it will affect the transplant survival hopefully not. The only big worry I have is whether my own old hair is thinned out by the procedure or is it the fac tthat it is so short and growing so slowly it looks much less than usual. I cant figure that one out. I hope I didnt have shock loss but maybe I did partially like some 50%. Awaiting the hair grafts to grow, the fastest would be 10 weeks to reach the skin that is if I am a fast grower and then to thicken and have lush appearance 6 months or so. I cant wait. I still have 3-5 months at least to wait. I think it would be nice if I had darker skin or if Had enough of my own hair to hide the recipient area but I dont or at least when it that short its not dense enough. I will try to take pics at the 2 months margin in 3 weeks. Till then I hope noone argues pro and against FUE. every technology has pros and cons, I studied all of them and reviewed articles ( like many articles its all bias I do medical research myself and I can tell you: in hair transplant I dont trust research, its all experience EXPERIENCE and thats all. In all surgical stuff. its that way. Its about experience , luck and honesty of the surgeon, good quality of genes in healing and so many enviromental factors. I hope that 2500 out my 4500 grow and I would be SOOOO happy!!!! thanks sean and everyone

noone is arguing with you and this is not the right place to argue on my post. If I didnt believe in FUE i wouldnt have done it. It is a shame that 12 years ago it didnt exist and I had a huge scar. its so huge and thick I would wish it to noone. I believe iN FUE and i am myself a surgeon ( in another field) and I am honestly tired of surgeons who can't adopt new technologies and stick with the past and bash every progress because they cant do it. I had myself an inguinal hernia surgery by a butcher surgeon who gave me two huge scars and debilitated me for several months instead of having the laparoscopic surgery, he had so much against because he didnt do it well! I understand your argument but you are so out of control and so out of place arguing with Bill on this post that has NOTHING to do with comparing the doctors you are mentioning. If Bill doesnt cancel this whole argument I am deleting this whole post of mine.

well regardless of my results I liked Dr Umar and his confidence. I could see why people would want to promote him. However I am sure that He does not need people like this guy to cheaply do this. I also liked my hairline a lot, the question is would I have reasonable density and coverage we will see in the next 6 months or more and what percentage of my transplants will grow. I did notice that I had at least 50% shock loss, but I think it is temporary cause I think I am seing my own hair grow now at a different speed than the back hair . THe first time I had a transplant it took me 6 months to start seeing results and the hair kept on changing for at least a year later, if not 2 years. I am hoping that my second and last transplant (my first was 12 years ago with another doctor) will achieve good results. Again this is not a pro or con Dr Umar or other doctors posts. This is just an honest experience. I wish myself the best, I wish all people who undergo this financially and mentally and socially expensive procedure success. It is all worth it if it works even if partially.

Dear Bill if you do not remove those irrelevant comments and comments back. I would like to cancel my topic here and that would be bad for people who want to follow up a guy over time, a guy who GENUINELY wants to share his experience. I havent seen many guys with exact same hair loss pattern as mine and with 4500 grafts . that is why my experience would be helpful to everyone. I would like my topic moderated and fixed again to what it was which is strictly about my experience and if anyone has his own RECENT experience with Umar they can comment but they cant be highjacking the topic like ronhanseri did and like how you responded to him

I cant wear hats in my job 80% of time. Hairpiece is not bad if you only put it for few hours not the whole day and not if it gets dirty and I think u need to at least wait a month for that. I couldnt really wear hats first because of my job second because it was causing me to be sore immediately, Bandanas were ok for me but even those I couldnt wear more than 4 hour straight. IT would hurt my donor areas. I think u can keep it as is and put a little bit tiny tiny amount of an organic foundation or concealer (yellow kind) when 4-5 weeks have passed. If you can get away without it than its better not to put anything. But my life would be impossible without it. Thanks