NW4recession

NW4, you contradict yourself when you say.....

 

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I have seen fantastic results from feller especially on NW3-4 patients.

I am not sure where the contradiction is? I like Rahal a lot for a NW2-3 and Feller for a NW3-4. Yes, there is some overlap there. Does this make sense? But it depends on the individual situation and both docs are so good, that you could basically flip a coin and be safe. I personally am leaning towards going with Rahal because I have deep temporal recession like Bill Murray, but no diffuse thinning, so I think Rahal can densepack a good hairline for me like he has for patients on this forum like MP96, chicksdigguyswithhair, frontaltool and others.

Those are some very nice hairlines by Shapiro. I agree that he is up there on the top shelf with the other docs mentioned.

My list is based just on seeing patient weblogs. I think different docs have different strengths.

Best doc for absolutely natural resultsin my opinion is Dr. Feller #1 and H&W #2 and Rahal #3. I have seen fantastic results from feller especially on NW3-4 patients.

Best doc for transforming NW5 + patientsin my opinion is #1 H&W, #2 Feller, #3 Rahal, Alexander.

Best Doc for hairline design and density #1 Rahal, #2 Armani (strip) - This is a very important consideration and these 2 docs seem to either focus more or have greater artistic skill at providing a hairline design that frames the face nicely. If you are a NW2-3, I would choose Rahal or Armani. If you are young or are likely to experience further hairloss take caution with Armani as he may not be a good choice when you are trying to manage/conserve your donor hair supply. Also, I think Armani only does FUE now, so Rahal is a clear #1 in this category.

Best doc for crownis H&W in my opinion.

Best docs for scarI have studied patient pictures for the above doctors and cannot discern a difference among the size of scar. They all great when it comes to scars and the scar depends a lot on the individual patient.

But I personally find it sad that members will base the integrity of this community on the suspension of ONE member's posting privileges.

 

It is not about one member. It is about snuffing out anyone who dares criticize any of the Doctors who pay to be part of this website. It is starting to feel like North Korea. I just want honest opinions in preparation for my hair transplant and for the most part this forum offers that better than any other place. BUT, this latest event with NTG2B raises concerns and makes me wonder if some of the opinions that I really need to hear are not getting through to this forum because they reflect negatively on the Doctors and are subject to being deleted or the poster being banned.

I am bummed and really have to doubt the credibility of this forum now, but I believe that there are still honest people on the forum that have not been banned yet and I hope this forum can survive and continue to be a place where we can share patient results and have discussions with real opinions.

Pat,

This decision to censor Ng2gb has delt a major blow to the credibility of this forum.

My first response was: What other things are being sensored that I may need to hear that will help me make a good decision?

It is true that there are 5-6 doctors on this forum that are superior to the rest. To call all of them equal is laughable. If you disagree, then you have obviously not looked at all the pictures that have been posted by members of this forum.

I would think that it would depend on how much you hairline was receded. Mine is receded and i have no plans as of now to have that area grafted. IMO it's far less important to have a great hairline but thin all over ,than to leave the hairline as is and go for a fuller look over all

I guess this is all a matter of personal preference. I actually would prefer a strong hairline with a thinning crown than have thick hair everywhere and a high hairline. This is because of the cosmetic effect of the hairline framing the face. Also, concealers work best in the crown.

Yes, also interested. Would love to see the final result.

I agree that most of the time HT's look unnatural if the hairline is restored but the temple points on the side are receded back. For instance, I was watching ESPN and saw Tim Legler. My first thought was that he had a HT because he has a good frontal hairline, but no temple points. After further research though, I think this is just his natural hairline.

Your hair loss is similar to mine. Where were the grafts placed from your first procedure? I think you could restore your hairline with 2000 grafts, but may have to go back for another procedure years later if your hairline continues to recede. If your crown stays in tact, you should not have to worry about running out of grafts.

I have been on Propecia for 7 months. Have noticed a decrease in shedding. I am hoping propecia will keep my hair on top and in the crown. So far I have no thinning in the crown.

That photo is not of me, it represents the worst case of MPB in my family. I am a 30 year old with temple recession only (I have photos on my weblog). It is the only photo I have, sorry it is hard to see. There is still thin hair on top and the crown does not recede down far on the back of the head, so I was thinking a mild NW5 since only the very top of the head is affected, although the sidburn areas & temple points have receded quite a bit.

My main goal right now is to create a better looking hairline which would take at least 2000 grafts to fill in the temples. I guess if I do this and end up a NW5, then I will have more surgeries, but will only have enough grafts for mild coverage of the crown. Do you guys think this is too risky? I know I alone can only make that decision, but it helps me to hear the perspectives of some more experienced people on these forums.

MP96,

That is an excellent result. Frames the face very nicely and gives the appearance that you are not affected by MPB at all. I have similar hairloss to you and am thinking about going to Rahal this December.

How did you hide the surgery? Did you keep your hair long and comb forward over the recipient area, or just buzz it shortly after the surgery. How long did it take before the scar was not really noticeable?

Hey Everyone. I wanted to get everyones opinion on 2 things. What NW would you classify the picture on my hairloss weblog titled "Worst Case" (the hair on top is not comb-over, it is just very thin hair). If you knew that this is the worst possible MPB you would end up with at age 80 with no use of meds, what would you do if you were 30 years old now and a NW 3? Would you dense-pack your temple areas with a fairly aggressive NW 1 hairline (but not quite armaniesque)?

Hey Everyone. I wanted to get everyones opinion on 2 things. What NW would you classify the picture on my hairloss weblog titled "Worst Case" (the hair on top is not comb-over, it is just very thin hair). If you knew that this is the worst possible MPB you would end up with at age 80 with no use of meds, what would you do if you were 30 years old now and a NW 3? Would you dense-pack your temple areas with a fairly aggressive NW 1 hairline (but not quite armaniesque)?

Wow. I can't believe how good your hair looks and that it is from a transplant. I am starting to think that there is some kind of conspiracy going on and this whole website is an elaborate scheme because all of Rahal's results are too good to be true. Look at frontal tool and MP96 as well. Just amazing results.

I am definitely going in now. Will shoot for December :-)

How long after surgery can you start using Dermatch to conceal the scar?

How long after surgery can you start using Dermatch to conceal the scar?

Hairloser1,

Did you apply Minox to your entire top of scalp or just the frontal region where you were receding?

Is there a way to know whether your hair diameter is average, thin or thick? When I was younger I had average hair thickness, but do not know if it was due to density or hair diameter.

Is there a way to know whether your hair diameter is average, thin or thick? When I was younger I had average hair thickness, but do not know if it was due to density or hair diameter.

I am 30 years old and suffer mainly from receding temples that has progressed slowly since I was 21. I still have thick hair everywhere except for where my hair has receded, but I have noticed that my hair on top is not as thick as it was 10 years ago. I believe it will slowly start to thin out on top and especially my forelock. I started propecia 4 months ago. Since my thinning is not cosmetically noticable right now, should I hold off on using Minox? I know it loses effectiveness for some people after a few years, so I was wondering if it would be best to wait and use minox when I need it cosmetically?

I plan on restoring my hairline with a HT in 1-3 years from now.

I am 30 years old and suffer mainly from receding temples that has progressed slowly since I was 21. I still have thick hair everywhere except for where my hair has receded, but I have noticed that my hair on top is not as thick as it was 10 years ago. I believe it will slowly start to thin out on top and especially my forelock. I started propecia 4 months ago. Since my thinning is not cosmetically noticable right now, should I hold off on using Minox? I know it loses effectiveness for some people after a few years, so I was wondering if it would be best to wait and use minox when I need it cosmetically?

I plan on restoring my hairline with a HT in 1-3 years from now.

Wow richie, That scar is so thin. Once the redness fades, it won't be an issue at all.

Regarding FUE, I don't know much about it. Is cost the main reason people choose strip over FUE?

Are Trichophytic closures the gold standard or is there a debate about what the best technique is. Also, If I have a Trichophytic closure performed now and have another procedure in 5 years, will it affect how many grafts that can be harvested since some of the hairs will be embedded in the scar?