Senior Member troy Posted November 11, 2005 Senior Member Share Posted November 11, 2005 I was reading on Shapiros website that they can do 20-25 grafts per cm. I thought I read some post of people who went much more than that. Is 20-25 per cm about the norm to expect from a ht? Or can you go more dense than that? Also I have never tried toppic, where do you purchase this? Thanks for everyones help. My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member troy Posted November 11, 2005 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 11, 2005 I was reading on Shapiros website that they can do 20-25 grafts per cm. I thought I read some post of people who went much more than that. Is 20-25 per cm about the norm to expect from a ht? Or can you go more dense than that? Also I have never tried toppic, where do you purchase this? Thanks for everyones help. My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted November 11, 2005 Senior Member Share Posted November 11, 2005 I think that website is probably outdated. I'm sure Shapiro can go denser than that. There are many factors to look at when considering density. Much depends on your donar hair, area you need to cover, future donar needs, how it fits in with your existing hair, etc. If possible, you should at least go with 30/cm2 to get a minimal illusion of density. There are many subtle factors to density. The frontal forelock should be densely packed to give a better overall appearance of density. It can depend on your age also. A 50 year old with a dense wall of hair for the hairline won't look very natural in most cases. A more feathered look will look better. Plus you'll need a lot of hair behind a dense wall to make it look even. You're talkin about using tremendous amounts of limited donar hair when you go with extreme density. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member troy Posted November 11, 2005 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 11, 2005 Gorphy, Ya I was wondering if maybe the website was outdated. I have a fair amount of hair now. I have a pretty strong hairline, but behind the hairline its thin, and my hairline could be thickened up a bit. I am going to go in and chat with the doc next week to get a good idea of what to expect fom an outcome, Im hoping to go in for 2500-3000, but well see what the doc says. Also how is your progress coming? My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted November 11, 2005 Senior Member Share Posted November 11, 2005 I'm doing well thanks. I'm in the waiting stage. Nothing much is happening right now. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member troy Posted November 14, 2005 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 14, 2005 does anybody know how many grafts per/cm can be done successfully in a single session? I am really trying to get an understanding of density and setting realistic expectations, thanks. My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted November 15, 2005 Senior Member Share Posted November 15, 2005 Troy, the density issue can be very tricky. I've heard of some doctors trying to set records by packing 100+ grafts per/cm2. While that is probably possible, it doesn't say anything about how many of those will grow. Here's a link that Dr. Limmer published. It might be a little out of date, but still could be helpful. Transplant Densities ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member troy Posted November 15, 2005 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 15, 2005 Gorphy, thank-you that was exactly what I was looking for. Im going to meet with Dr Rose and try to get my final game plan togather density will be at the top of that discussion. I am very fortunate that Shapiro medical is only 15 minutes from my home. Im less than 30 days from my ht, Ive only told my mom, I have a huge very close family. I will tell all of them at a later date. I just want to see if anyone will notice. Anyway my sister called and asked me if I could watch her kids, I guess I had to do the old ht shuffle and skirt around why I couldnt do it, lol. thanks again Gorphy My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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