Paying Pekiner in cash

[Gasper20]

4 hours ago, NegativeNorwood said:

It's not because he is banned here, it's because the quality of the pictures presented elsewhere. It doesn't matter if they are 1 or 2000, bad quality pictures are useless. 0 multiplied by any number is still 0.

Clinics have to present their work with high resolution, honest pictures. If they don't do it, that's their choice. If they don't do it, it's safe to assume they have something to hide.

Patient posted results are just a confirmation of the results posted by the clinic, and can't be solely used to judge the clinic's work because they are not taken with a good camera and following a detailed protocol, simple as that.

This is for any reputable hair transplant clinic, not just for Pekiner.

Not going to waste more energy with this btw.

 Patient's own photos and personal accounts of their experience with surgeons are the best reviews since it's less likely to be edited or cherry picked by the clinic. However, good quality photos are needed to make a fair assessment of the work. Fortunately, there are quite a few good quality photos on this forum (and others) of Pekiner's work. If you did a simple search you can find them. Here's one (of many) from here:

 

[NegativeNorwood]

 

16 minutes ago, Gasper20 said:

 Patient's own photos and personal accounts of their experience with surgeons are the best reviews since it's less likely to be edited or cherry picked by the clinic. However, good quality photos are needed to make a fair assessment of the work. Fortunately, there are quite a few good quality photos on this forum (and others) of Pekiner's work. If you did a simple search you can find them. Here's one (of many) from here:

 

 

The before and inmediate post op pictures taken at the clinic are great.

The 13 months after posted by the patient, not so much. Doesn't show the hair slicked back. In fact, he covered his hairline with the hair combed that way:

This is a great pic, but...he took at at 6 months, and as you know, hair transplants need around 12-15 months for the final result. So still not very useful:

 

Not trying to come across as a hater or anything like that, in fact I think he would benefit a lot from taking the after pictures himself, like most reputable clinics do (ie: Feriduni, Konior, Mwamba, Zarev, etc).

But as said earlier, final result pics are not good enough, and that's not the fault of the patient, because he doesn't even need to post anything. That should be Pekiner's duty, like he did with the before and inmediate post op pictures (which are perfect).

Edited March 17, 2023 by NegativeNorwood

[Gasper20]

4 minutes ago, NegativeNorwood said:

 

 

The before and inmediate post op pictures taken at the clinic are great.

The 13 months after posted by the patient, not so much. Doesn't show the hair slicked back. In fact, he covered his hairline with the hair combed that way:

This is a great pic, but...he took at at 6 months, and as you know, hair transplants need around 12-15 months for the final result. So still not very useful:

 

Not trying to come across as a hater or anything like that, in fact I think he would benefit a lot from taking the after pictures himself, like most reputable clinics do (ie: Feriduni, Konior, Mwamba, Zarev, etc).

But as said earlier, final result pics are not good enough, and that's not the fault of the patient, because he doesn't even need to post anything. That should be Pekiner's duty, like he did with the before and inmediate post op pictures (which are perfect).

If the slick back hair looks like that at 6 months, I think most people would be thrilled. I would imagine it would look even better at 12 months as it gets thicker.

[NegativeNorwood]

2 minutes ago, Gasper20 said:

If the slick back hair looks like that at 6 months, I think most people would be thrilled. I would imagine it would look even better at 12 months as it gets thicker.

 

Then it would be even better for him to show high quality pics. See, it's a win-win situation, no downsides other than laziness (if the work is good, ofc).

[BaldGuy]

49 minutes ago, Gasper20 said:

 Patient's own photos and personal accounts of their experience with surgeons are the best reviews since it's less likely to be edited or cherry picked by the clinic.

 

Exactly this. The patient cases posted by the patients are the best reviews and the only ones a candidate can trust which are on real time and they are less likely to be edited with mondage or cherry picked in defference with the results posted by a clinic which can easily be edited by the clinic to make the result look better and they are cherry picked( they hide their bad results and show only the better ones).

For example you will never see a bad case posted by a particular clinic, but you will see a bad case from this clinic in a real patient case....thats the main difference. In real patient cases you will see good and bad results of a clinic, so you can make a better judgment about a clinic. however if you only look on cases posted by a clinic, you will not have any idea about the bad cases of this clinic, which are hidden and you will also not be sure if the results are 100% real or not...

As a result Everyone should focus more on real patient cases which are the best reviews for a surgeon and not to the cases posted by the clinic..

Edited March 17, 2023 by BaldGuy

[shiba1985]

43 minutes ago, NegativeNorwood said:

 

 

The before and inmediate post op pictures taken at the clinic are great.

The 13 months after posted by the patient, not so much. Doesn't show the hair slicked back. In fact, he covered his hairline with the hair combed that way:

This is a great pic, but...he took at at 6 months, and as you know, hair transplants need around 12-15 months for the final result. So still not very useful:

 

Not trying to come across as a hater or anything like that, in fact I think he would benefit a lot from taking the after pictures himself, like most reputable clinics do (ie: Feriduni, Konior, Mwamba, Zarev, etc).

But as said earlier, final result pics are not good enough, and that's not the fault of the patient, because he doesn't even need to post anything. That should be Pekiner's duty, like he did with the before and inmediate post op pictures (which are perfect).

Assuming large portion of his patients are based internationally, and supposedly people that want to pay a lower cost, you expect them to spend $1k+ dollars to go back to turkey at 12 months just so they can have the clinic take pictures? Come on man be real.   
 

you keep saying you are not a hater, but the only person you are fooling is yourself. 
 

 

[NegativeNorwood]

2 minutes ago, shiba1985 said:

Assuming large portion of his patients are based internationally, and supposedly people that want to pay a lower cost, you expect them to spend $1k+ dollars to go back to turkey at 12 months just so they can have the clinic take pictures? Come on man be real.   
 

 

Yes, that's what most people do. 12 months check up visits are normal.

If you want to cut corners and not have follow up visits to check the quality of the work or get it retouched if something didn't go well, surgery is not for you. Just shave it off and wear a hairpiece at that point.

 

3 minutes ago, shiba1985 said:

you keep saying you are not a hater, but the only person you are fooling is yourself. 
 

 

Lmao, didn't know that asking for good pictures means being a hater. I never said he was bad, just that we don't know good he is without good pictures. Big difference. 

[shiba1985]

Dr Diep made a whole empire out of posting videos in his darkly lit office. So much for “clinic” supplied photos.

 

I can assure you, even at the best clinics, much less turkey, maybe 20% or less patients return for the 12 month visit. This is not a heart valve replacement surgery where you have to monitor. If everyone is happy usually patients go about their life. 

Edited March 18, 2023 by shiba1985