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thanks for confirming things richie in a very diplomatic round about way. thank you to mick for answering a couple of the questions also. 1. you were offering fue previously then and not long ago? why not now? 2. what were your charges for it..did you offer it at only ??3 a graft, the same price as strip? 3. do you have any fue pictures to share? 4. why did richie have no idea he was getting offered fue... do you refer to it as something else? hope you do not see this as moaning again... just very interested.

maybe i should answer it. the way i now see it is mick mchugh is obviously still not prepared to answer the question. it seems richie went to him for a qoute (500 grafts) and he completely under quoted. this is confirmed by comparing the work richie actualy had done (2100). 2100 grafts is a very big session for farjo on all accounts and maybe they were not prepared to give the patient the number actually needed. more than 500 was definately needed as seen form the pictures and fellers work. richie came onto the forum and shared his information about his research and experiences which exposed farjos inadequate estimate (500 grafts) which to any novice viewing can see would have done next to nothing in the large area needing work. this is the issue that is trying to be covered up once exposed for the very low estimate and the expensive price quoted to richie by mick he tried to cover it up as he didn't want it to look like the advice offered to him was totally incorrect. he thought the best way to do this was to inform him privately by phone call that the surgery offered to him(500 grafts) was actually fue to try salvage the situation. unfortunately for mick muchugh though is that 1. fue was never discussed with richie so he says at the consultation(only when mick mchugh rang him up directly after richie posted here, possibly in an attempt to save embarresment) 2. farjo do not actually offer fue from what i have been told by them 3. the price qouted to him for the 500 grafts was the exact same price as the price the clinic offer for strip(??3 a graft). no clinic in the world that genuinely offers fue.. offer it at the same price as strip(maybe i am wrong...do farjo?) this is the way i see it and due to the fact there has been not one answer given to this question for some time it looks very suspicious, its maybe because its a very tricky one to answer without actually giving the game away<.< a guy has a consult(richie) with a clinic that doesn't offer fue (farjo) and fue is never discussed at the consultation. he is quoted a small session at the price of a strip surgery and a few months later after he comes onto the forum to share his story about the consultation and the clinic the rep actually calls him direct(doesn't post for all of us to see) to explain that in actual fact it was a quote for fue....... if this quote was for fue and i have it completely wrong then maybe mick mchugh can explain: 1.why fue was never discussed at the consult 2.why was the price quoted the same price as your strip price. 3. why was the patient phoned directly and not just addressed on the topic as is normally done. 4. why was the patient only quoted 500 grafts for an area that required much more to make any difference whatsoever. 5. do you have other fue cases to present here if actually offering fue. 6. why was this question not answered sooner and only deflected...only adding to the suspision. (hence this post to help clarify a few things) 7. do you publically call all perspective patient who ask the same question directly to you more than once MOANERS?...<.< i have been deceived before by this industry and its stuff like this which makes it very hard to trust anyone <.< richie if reading this can you cast your opinion on it also.. as it is about you after all. Bill i think this topic needs addressing once and for all, as surely you can see there is something going on here <.< it was a very simple question one which if i ask again will make me feel like i am moaning and we dont want that do we.....

Still no answer...... forgive me for asking a question <.< i am moaning am i mick?? (really professional comment on other topic), sorry.. i only wanted to gain information which you appear to be not very forth coming with. you appear to want to step round this and other questions... that is clear enough. i only asked it here as it was ignored on the other topic, surely it warrants an answer as the guy that had the consultation himself was very confused over the quote and that fue was offered to him at the same price as strip even though fue was never discussed ... yes i was dissapointed that you could not provide me with any strip scar pictures...sorry again for asking you a question<.< i only wanted to establish that you do not offer fue like you told me in the email you sent me but yet you offered it to the other guy... at the same price a strip. if my questions prove a problem for you i am sorry. i am not moaning <.<.... just looking for a direct answer.... maybe you can give me one finally on this particular topic..?

i have to say that i have never heard of him. i think you need to possibly get in touch with the clinic and discuss your concerns. it doesn't sound good though. how many grafts did you have and what level was your loss before. was it a small session?

never heard of this.. who was your doctor?

i have not planned anything yet with any clinic although rahal hw and feller are all at the top of my list. i can not afford one at the moment due to absolutely no money to my name whatsoever i will just have to live with this for some time now as my savings were stripped from me due to this effort and other things relating to it i am going to have to wait a couple of years at least.

prices will always go up especially with the top clinics as they have 4 + month waiting lists. no clinic will drop there prices with all that money already in the bank. its only clinics that are to be avoided that will drop there prices....coz they have to!!

this place now advertises they perform 6000 FUE grafts in a single session and also that they are members of the ISHRS! it seems there is just nothing that can stop butchers from performing on innocent guys and also shows there is nothing to stop them advertising complete rubbish to lure them into there butchers den. (its like the film hostel). thank god for the GMC hey.....what a great job they do!..... thanks must go to them for allowing these butchers to continue to perfom this along with all the other regulated "healthcare comission" state of the art clinics we have so many of here in the uk. how fortunate we are to have such a great selection of clinics who offer work that is accepted by the ISHRS also clearly highlighting the obvious standards a clinic must aspire to to be part of such an organisation. .....i will grab my swiss army knife and cheque book and join online myself maybe. this is my scar from norton. nice isn't it!! thanks Jermey Isherwood for all your care and guidance along the way...thanks for returning all my calls and helping me through this. thanks for making sure the payment went through to without a hitch. hope you got all the money from me you wanted..without you and you fantastic surgeon i wouldn't be able to leave the house without my hat for the rest of my life great job!!! you can hardly see it when my hair is even 3 inches long ..again thanks!

oh right, i the one with the agenda ... i feel that your assessment of this is as a "really good result" is way off the mark as only confirmed by every other poster here who were prepared to actually be honest. i only chose from the pictures provided as they were an exact match and thought they were a clear example this is not the result you make it out to be. yes i feel accurate , clear, pictures are vital to assess results i also believe honest opinions are required also... if this patient only grew his hair out from his 3 month situation/pre op situation, the difference would have been very similar regard less of the 2400 grafts?? in my opinion. sorry didn't realise i wasn't allowed an opinion... i will let everyone elses opinion clarify that this is not a really good result even though you think it is. maybe we are all wrong..

a really good result?! again am i missing something here...i can not see any difference at all hardly, and why is there only one pre op picture (an unclear side one) and not a top one, front one? why is it purple also? i can not see a 2400 difference at all ..anyone else feel this is a very good result?? is that why there have been no replies, everyone just being polite? the hair looks shaved down pre op and just grown out after , where are the 2400 grafts??? what happened here? there is clearly not 2400 growth in my opinion.. i think your assessment on many pictures is somewhat misguiding to the viewing public. why is there still so much shockloss after 9 months.. is the permanent?? i thought shockloss occured around the scar and for a few months..not 9 .. is it all back now? anyone else think this is "a really good result" for a 2400 grafts? 3 + 10 months, where is the 2400 difference?

fue farjo pictures please??? and also is fue ??3 a graft?

thanks for the pictures

best of luck. you are in very capable hands! i have read a lot on various docs and rahal is one of the best. please keep us informed on your progress. do you have a private email i can get you on?

8am..off to work nice pic

so they quoted you ??3 a graft for 500 grafts which is the price they charge for strip. i was told by the farjo clinic to look into clinics other than theirs for fue so presumed they do not do it...do they then... if they offered it to you they must do, and if so it is the same price as strip? ??3? Can we see some pics of their fue at least??? Seems funny they offered you fue but they didn't discuss it was going to be fue with you... and how fue is the same price as strip. even so ??1500 for 500 (??3) grafts compared to your 2100 for ??3700 and as i saidbefore thats not even comparing the quality of the transplant..

it is far cheaper to have the very best in the world perfom your surgery than a recommended clinic in the uk. this only helps as we are very limited to good tranplant surgeons here. the ?? is very strong at the moment but has been for a while now. i think this only helps as its not the fact surgery is ??1000's cheaper for uk people who travel to the u.s for a transplant but also 1000's x better!! i wish i had known this as i has always thought the best in the u.s would have been ??1000's more ...dooh! its ??3 a graft here and about ??2 in the us with a top surgeon so on a 2000 graft surgery thats about ??2000 or $4000 cheaper to go to u.s for uk guys cost is a big thing for me as i wasted ?????????? on a huge scar here in the uk and don't have a great deal of cash now thanks to the clinic that did me over

Bill i am not here to argue or prove a point. i am only displaying the pictures that were ask to be displayed. it seems there is an excuse for everything though yet again.... maybe the show displayed here will help.. although i am already anticipating the excuses by the bucket load btw.harsh lighting etc.. the pictures clearly show a different result to the ones presented on the farjo web site regardless of quality.. do you know for a fact they have no concealer on? i wil watch the show and report back... what good it will do..

With his concealer on

out the paper

this is boring and balody before you start i am planning on having my repair with rahal so don't start on me again. i mentioned that barry wears concealer and lots of it previously but it fell on deaf ears.

well done emusteve. this looks to be really good.

look forward to seeing them as the scar is a big issue for me due to my previous bad surgery.

he is back now.

how is your scar looking now richie any pictures?

i have since emailed a few clinics with limited feedback. many didn't even reply to me which is not very helpful. i am thinking of revision now and rolling the dice to see if it stretches again. thanks for the link stevo, very helpful