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Originally posted by Bill:I have a serious dandruff problem and which is leading to a decrease in the density of my hair.
I don't believe the above statement is true...but never having a dandruff problem, I have never researched the topic. That being said...if dandruff is a problem for you, try Head and Shoulders or Nizoral shampoo 2X a week.
So in regards to having an HT...if you have an HT, dandruff shouldn't affect the growth or cause a problem for an HT. Dandruff by itself is a separate problem altogether
Hope this helps.
Bill
Bill,
I believe the statement is true from personal experience. My hairloss was at its most severe sometime after starting Propecia when I had severe dandruff where it was so bad I was literally scratching my hair out. After a while I noticed the density of my hair was noticeably thinner. I have no doubt that my hair would be in a better condition now if I had began using Nizoral earlier. The best anti-dandruff shampoo I have used is definitely Nizoral.
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Hi endoftherope,
I wouldn't take too much confidence in what is written in online posts. If you do find some factual information (i.e. from case studies, etc) than that would definitely be an interesting read. Otherwise I wouldn't get too worked up over the rants of others.
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Originally posted by Robert - Associate Publisher:
There is strong evidence that shows that when a patient first begins taking finasteride (the active ingredient in both Propecia and Proscar) doses as low as .1 mg can be as effective as 1 mg. Of course, as the body becomes acclimated to the medication, the dose must be increased incrementally. Dr. Cooley is right on with his recommendation for new Propecia users.
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Robert, it would be good if you could cite your strong evidence. There is a reason why the recommended dosage is what it is, it is based on the results of empirical studies. The end result represents the most optimal dosage for most people given risk/benefit and statistical mean effectiveness amongst the patients in the study. Given that it can be up to 6-12 months to see any results (if any?) I don't think it is wise to suggest a dosage other than the recommended one. IMHO I would only suggest a smaller dosage for men experiencing side effects or only have minor hair loss not patients who are trying to stave off an inevitable NW6/7.
Here is an interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propecia on the issue:
The UC Berkeley Wellness Letter expressed concern in March 2003 about the unproven long-term safety of Propecia and recommended cutting a standard 1 milligram dose into quarters to reduce the cost without reducing its effectiveness.[2]. This claim appears to be supported by clinical pharmacological data reviewed by the FDA during Propecia's approval process that suggested that the advantage of taking 1 mg per day over 0.2 mg per day is statisticially small. [3] Some people have unsuccessfully petitioned the FDA to re-examine the approved dosage in light of the statistical evidence and unknown long-term risks.[4] The FDA responded and said that just because the level of DHT found in the scalp was not signifigantly different does not mean there is a correlation with hair loss. A study would have to show that the benefits of using 0.2 mg and 1 mg were not statistically different. According to the FDA such a study has been performed and a 1 mg dose has a greater benefit.[4]
There have been studies on different dosages but the conclusion reached is a different one:
It did, however, include an even lower dose, .Ol mg, in addition to .2 mg and 1 mg doses. The study showed the .Ol mg dose to be ineffective, and the 1 mg dose to be more effective than the .2 mg dose and equally safe
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Originally posted by Mark H:
I don't know where you're getting a 5-6 hour half life from...a term usually used for radioactive isotopes.
Easy, just type in Propecia half life in google. Most of the websites list the half life anywhere between 4-6 hours.
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic3/propecia_cp.htm:
Mean terminal half-life is approximately 5-6 hours in men 18-60 years of age and 8 hours in men more than 70 years of age.
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Vijay, I had the same problem where severe dandruff was causing me to literary scratch my hair out. I've tried a few different shampoos in the past but for me Nizoral works the best.
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If you want to save money buy Proscar and cut in 1/4's. The half life of Propecia is 5-6 hours, taking it every other day is below the recommended dosage of Finasteride for hairloss.
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Guys,
I thought I might chime in here as I have been a regular user of CP's for nearly 5 months. I also did much research into CP's before considering it apart of my haircare regime, basically there are a lot of articles with a positive tone similar to this:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Do-Copper-Peptide-Hair-Treatm...ally-Work?&id=186699
Researchers determined that the copper solutions applied to the scalp increased follicle size: rebuilt the blood supply to damaged follicles: increased melanin synthesis, necessary to keep hair from turning white: increased subcutaneous fat below the scalp, needed to produce thick healthy hair: lengthened the hair growth phase: inhibited the formation of DHT: repaired scalp damage; healed inflammation: and caused the scalp to thicken.
This all leads to a healthy head of hair.
Minoxidil (Rogaine) grows new fine "vellus" hair. Copper peptide solutions convert this fine hair into thicker, fuller, pigmented hair and it is suggested that both be substances be used in combination if you are trying to re-grow hair. The copper peptide has the added benefit of reducing the inflammation and itching caused by minoxidil.
I pretty much decided to include CP's into my regime just to help with the minoxidil itch - which I think it does. If it manages to also create healthier hair (which I actually believe there is some science behind it) than I consider that a bonus. I initially started with just the folligen solution spray but if your hair gets wet after you put it on it will have an unnatural and noticeable green colour. So now I only use Tricomin CP conditioner since I still had space in my regime for a good conditioner that was beneficial to my hair.
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AnArabiaNight,
You may want to also research Avodart, it is a more potent DHT inhibitor than Propecia but also has more potent side effects.
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Originally posted by Mark H:
... I'm all for honesty, but if you're going to be that forthcoming, why not tell them about the dog you kicked in the second grade while you're at it.
Shit Mark, you're making me cry over here - thats some funny shit!
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Seriously people, if the dude is 30 with that level of hairloss he is in pretty damn good shape to spend a mere 700 grafts refining his hairline.
I mean its wise to have a conservative outlook concerning HT's but suggesting this is may not be a good use of grafts for someone his age is borderline Nazi conservatism.
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Hi Michael,
I used to be an advocate of Laser Therapy as there is a lot of documented studies on its benefits of increasing hair shaft diameter and hair count.
But I have yet to find any photographic evidence that shows a real cosmetic difference. Even on their website the before and after pics are not impressive at all. If even the best hand picked results are not impressive, I don't hold much hope for the average joe.
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I'm going to suggest that if no photographic evidence is available to show if this treatment is effective, then the link should be removed.
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Hi Mark,
The thing with Nizoral is that it was also used by the patients in the client trials of Propecia, so if you are on Finasteride it is a good idea to use Nizoral as well.
Like John said it has some anti-DHT and good cleansing properties.
I think the biggest benefit is that it is an excellent anti-inflammatory/dandruff shampoo. I had most of my hairloss under Propecia in which my scalp was so itchy that I literally scratched a lot of my hair out. I believe that if I was also using Nizoral at the time my hair would be in a much better condition than it is now.
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Seriously Mark,
After reading your posts I initially thought you were just an arrogant dick but I'm starting to discover more and more that you are just a dumb sh*t. How you got to 40 without going the way of the dodo is a mystery to me. Regardless of your origin I still feel inclined to help you, here are a couple of tips as you are obviously not aware of:
*Know your audience*
This is a forum for hairloss sufferers and prospective patients that are considering a HT. This is not a way for you to communicate with HT doctors. Believe it or not there are other (read: better) ways to communicate with doctors, namely the TELEPHONE. You can find their number and more info about the doctors at their websites. Here they are for future reference:
Shapiro Medical Group:
Hasson and Wong:
*You do not own this thread*
Your parents lied - the universe does not revolve around you and you do not own every thread that you post to. This is and open forum for the purpose to help hairloss sufferers and to inform prospective patients about the process of a HT and other hair loss treatments so they can decide the best course of action for them.
We are quite fortunate here in that you are the first poster of your type displaying this level of arrogance to other posters actually trying to help you. If you are really interested in getting helpful advice tone down the arrogance and attitude and realize people are taking time out of their day to help you - being polite wont cost you anything.
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Well personally I do think you have a problem with your head though I think you are seeking the wrong type of doctor as its not with your hair.
But if you insist on getting a HT, a word of advice dude: Do not tell them that you are the same dick that is posting on this thread as they might try do us all a favour and see if they can take some of that arrogance of yours while your head is open.
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Originally posted by endoftherope:
I would really like to see pictures of some people that have received HTs but with their hair wet instead of blown dry. When the hair is wet, does it look like you're balding at all?
Originally posted by UGLY MAN 4 LIFE:You know damn right that he meant pictures from when someone goes swimming - NOT pictures where someone combs a brush that they've held under a tap through their hair. Who cares what you look like if you run a damp brush through your hair? NO ONE! Because no one walks around like that.
Calm down ugly with EOTR's first post I also thought he meant damp hair when you come out of the shower as opposed to after it was 'blown dry'.
Spex is helpful by nature and has helped many people in the past for no gains. The way I see it is that he was just trying to be helpful again and just posted a wet pic he had on hand. It's not his fault that he has more hair than most - if you know Spex's story than you know that Dr Feller did his receeded temples so if you have enough donor than you can get a result like's Spex's. Obviously NW6,7's will not be expecting this. An NW5 with a great donor might though.
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Originally posted by Mark 007:
...plus the "thread" and "view" count goes up.. You get peoples attention this way..
Sorry dude, all you getting is more people thinking your a dick. I find it hard to believe that you actually go out hunting with a group of guys and no one has shot you yet! I'm guessing this is because you guys aren't actually going out for the hunting. So what do you guys then get up to out there at Brokeback mountain?
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ahlender,
Here is some starting info about Propecia vs Avodart: http://www.regrowhair.com/general-hair-loss-topics/comm...d-you-choose-part-1/
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I know this post is in English but Im having a hard time understanding it??
What exactly is he asking here?? to guess how many grafts he will need? is this meant to be some sort of internet auction here?
If he found this forum he certainly didn't read it much before making his first post.
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ahlender,
u got to be kidding me? if thats you in the photo with the NW0 mop on your head i'm not seeing any signs of hairloss. Personally with that head of hair I would be on Propecia at most. It is FDA approved for hairloss, has a good safety record and its longterm results are well known. Avodart on the other hand is not approved for hairloss, has more potent side effects than Propecia and its longterm effects are unknown.
Having said that I'm currently on Avodart myself since I had most of my hairloss after 2 years on Propecia.
Basically its your choice in the end, do your research on Avodart and decide for yourself if its worth the risk.
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Originally posted by htownballa:Guys even if it is a reality in the next 10 years it is probably not going to produce an infinite donor supply.
Jake,
The definition of HM is to produce an infinite donor supply. However, traditional hair transplant techniques will still need to be used to implant the multiplied follicles on the patient's head. I think your quote is referring to the limitations of dense packing by the surgeon- no matter how much donor the surgeon has to work with, he won't be able to replicate natural densities of those without any hairloss.
Ummm, no HM or Hair Multiplication is not Hair Cloning - it does not grow new hair. If it does work it splits the bulb of the follicle into 2 or more parts which hopefully will produce a living hair follicle. I am also curious as to how many hairs can be created with a single follicle but if its only 2 or 3 than that will not mean an infinite donor supply.
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Originally posted by htownballa:
Jake,
I'm starting to have more faith in the coming of HM within the next 10 years. It hasn't been posted on this site, but the UK government provided Intercytex with a 1.85 million pound grant just recently. This made mainstream news!
If HM goes to plan, it should increase our donor area infinitely. Then we can all head off to Armani for dense packing/low hairlines lol.
Guys even if it is a reality in the next 10 years it is probably not going to produce an infinite donor supply.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1890357,00.htmlBut a spokesman from the Trichological Society, Barry Stevens, has warned that it was not a 'cure' for baldness: 'Most men will lose more hair than they can have replaced from the same head.'
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Originally posted by no hair sux:
i'm really getting excited about this HM talk and wondering if i should hold out. ahhhhh, decisions
Hair Multiplication is still a pipe dream. I would say it at least 8 years away from commercial reality. I think its still unknown how many extra grafts it will supply and how much it will cost.
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Personally I would keep my hair a little longer like you have done in your 9 1/2 month pics - which look great BTW.
You might as well enjoy your great result for a few more years before jumping into another 3-6 months of downtime.
Who here uses finasteride instead of propecia
in Open Hair Loss Topics
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Juan,
Propecia's active ingredient is Finasteride it contains 1mg, the recommended dosage for hair loss. You must be referring to Proscar which contains 5mg of Finasteride. So to answer your question, yes many people here do buy Proscar and cut it up into 1/4's to save money.