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Hi guys,

I've consulted many HT docs, now will be going to Dr. Robert Jones for in person consultation. I saw very little reviews on this site, but know he was recommended. I just wanted to know if anyone recently has had experience with him?

Thanks in advance.

Thanks Dewayne that was informative. Tomorrow I'll be going over to see Dr. Robert Jones in Oakville just outside of Toronto. I spoke to him briefly a couple of weeks ago and he told me he can do around 3500-4000 in one session and charges around $10000+Tax. Dr. Jones was recommended on this website until he himself took his name off for some reason. But I'm just going to go for consultation in person. I've already consulted Dr. Rahal and H&W online and they quoted me: $14000 (4000 grafts) and $16000(4200 grafts) respectively. That is a little high for me as I didn't want to go over $10000 in my first pass.

Thanks for the info, just one more question for my understanding, some doctors say 2500 grafts (or Follicular Units) while some say 4000+ grafts or (Follicular Units), now my question is when a strip is taken out from the back then the same should amount of grafts should come out from the strip no? The doctor taking out 2500 grafts told me that no one can really give 4000+ FU's in one sitting. So does that mean the doctors that are saying they can take out 4000+ FU's in one sitting are actually taking 2500 or so and splitting them up in a lot of 1 hair grafts to increase the graft size? I'm not too knowledgeable in this area so please share what you know.

Thanks!

You are right, I actually really like what was done with the first one with 1205 grafts, he was almost bare in the front (especially on the sides in the front) and thinning in the crown but with just 1205 grafts they covered it up well. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can comment on this.

Hi guys,

yeah I started both Minoxidil 5% and Proscar last week. So I guess 2500 grafts should not be the best to go for, perhaps I should try another doctor who said around 3500-4000 grafts, the only thing I'm afraid is that they will take the same 2500 grafts and just split it up into some 2's and 3's but mostly 1's for coverage. Would that be the best way?

Thanks!

Hi guys,

thanks again for all the suggestions, TheEmperor, what you say makes sense and I wouldn't mind getting 4000 grafts if I can but Bill as you say 2 sessions of 3000 grafts would be enough. It seems if I either go to Dr. Ferreira of SureHair or Dr. Cotterill (both in Toronto) then I will be getting about 2500 grafts my 1st session and then more then likely another 2500 in my 2nd, do you think that would be enough? Would that give me some decent density? Remember I have 77CM2 in the front to cover with 2500 grafts taking me to almost the middle and then another that would continue to the back but just missing my crown probably. Here is another Pic of the front and top. I'm just finding difficulty finding a pic that is similar to mine who got around 2500-3000 grafts in the front.

Hey Chuckisduck,

I think my only limiting factor is the donor area and how much I can give, I have 2 HT's in me for sure but that's like a total of 2500 each so 5000 altogether, unless I can get close to that in one sitting. You can look at my pics above, my crown and my front, I have 77CM2 to cover the front with 2500 and then have a 2nd to cover the middle to back (not the crown).

Hi HairDew,

by one shot do you mean they can do the entire head from front to back (crown area) at once? That's pretty decent. Otherwise I would be covering 77CM2 area the first time. The 2nd time from middle to close crown.

dakota3, the doctor isn't recommended on this site, but when I spoke to him he seemed very detailed in his analysis. I just saw him again today and he said I definately have 2 HT's in me, enough to cover the front to middle (or 1/3) with 2500 grafts in the 1st transplant while in the 2nd transplant go from middle to the back. He said I might have very little to give for the crown or nothing at all. He said I have an area of 77cm2 to cover, do you think 2500 grafts would be enough to cover this area with some decency? The doctor said he would use around a density of 30cm2 or so, I just don't know if the scalp will show or not? I'm just having some difficulty visualizing this!

Thanks for any comments and suggestions.

I asked one of the HT surgeons and he was saying that mega sessions of 4000+ usually are possible only when splitting up 2 and 3 hair grafts into 1 hair grafts, so if there are 2500 grafts to give, surgeons usually would split these up these into a majority 1 hair grafts to give more grafts (4000+) for more coverage but with less density, is this right? This is what he said:

"It is also well know that the average head has about 10-15% one hair grafts. Therefore in a person who gets a 4326 grafts transplant, they should get about 436 to 649 single hair grafts. They quote a total of 2129 single hair grafts!! The only way to do this is to cut the two and three hair grafts into one hair grafts. Most doctors think that this is not a good way to go since you will lose density. Single hair grafts produce less density than doubles or triples. However, some doctors claim that at least the patient has some hair there even if it is only a one hair graft. Furthermore, most doctors charge by the graft so the cost is significantly higher. For example, typically 2500 follicular units will have about 250 singles and about 2250 double and triples in equal ratios. If we cut up all the doubles and triple into singles we will get about 3375 ( 2250x0.5x3) + 2250(2250x0.5x2) + 250= 5875 single hair grafts. YOU do not have 4326 real follicular units to give in one sitting ??“ no one does"

Please comment, thanks!

Hi guys,

thanks for you suggestions, I think I have just 2 HT's in me that is what kinda scares me, here is another pic of my crown, again the top is cut short because of my hairpiece but I have lost quite a bit in the crown for my age. So I'm hoping still if I can get away with 2500 or so in the front and then have a 2nd to add a few hundred more grafts in the front while about 2000 in the crown?

Thanks

Hi Dakota3 and company,

I'm attaching a pic of my top, please any suggestions are much appreciated.

Thanks

Hi,

I've been to about 3 HT surgeons in the Toronto area and have consulted over 10 of them online. I basically am 30 years old and wore a hairpiece for the last 6 years and want to get a HT now, my front portion of my head about 1/3 is pretty much bald (some microscopic hairs still there), so I've been quoted by a majority of the HT surgeons about 2500 grafts while a couple online said 3000 or so, do you think 2500 grafts would be decent amount of hair in the front portion of a pretty much bald front? I basically don't want my scalp to shine through but be covered with somewhat decency. I have been told I am between a NW 5 and 6 (sucks I know at my age).

My 2nd HT would probably either be in the front for thickening or most probably in the crown area. But am still curious as to how dense a bald front would look with 2500 grafts?

I tried searching for some pics online but the majority of people already had some hair in the front, so I can't tell.

Thanks in advance!

Hi,

I've been to about 3 HT surgeons in the Toronto area and have consulted over 10 of them online. I basically am 30 years old and wore a hairpiece for the last 6 years and want to get a HT now, my front portion of my head about 1/3 is pretty much bald (some microscopic hairs still there), so I've been quoted by a majority of the HT surgeons about 2500 grafts while a couple online said 3000 or so, do you think 2500 grafts would be decent amount of hair in the front portion of a pretty much bald front? I basically don't want my scalp to shine through but be covered with somewhat decency. I have been told I am between a NW 5 and 6 (sucks I know at my age).

My 2nd HT would probably either be in the front for thickening or most probably in the crown area. But am still curious as to how dense a bald front would look with 2500 grafts?

I tried searching for some pics online but the majority of people already had some hair in the front, so I can't tell.

Thanks in advance!

I don't think there is a generic form of the foam Rogaine, I use the liquid version by Kirkland (minoxidil 5%). Although one of the HT doctors I saw today said one of the ingredients in the foam make the solution better to absorb into the scalp.

Hi guys,

thanks for all the info, I got some info back from Dr. Rahal and he recommends around 4000 grafts for my front, the thing is the cost is over $14 grand and honestly I didn't want to go over $10 grand for now. Dr. Rahal is one of the best as I've heard from everyone but I will be consulting Dr. Cotterill this Friday as well, he seems to be pretty good from what I've heard and has over 20 years experience. I was going to go for Dr. Robert Jones but heard some mixed reviews on him.

Thanks

Yeah thanks guys,

I've narrowed down to either Dr. Marla Rosenberg, Dr. Nelson Ferreira, Dr. Cotterill, still have to hear back from Dr. Rahal. They are in and around Toronto except for Dr. Rahal in Ottawa.

Has anyone heard of this company: http://www.visage.ca/hairtransplant.html

They have a $2 per graft cost and have Doctor Ketan Patel who is an ISHRS Member. Don't get me wrong I have researched almost all the main doctors in and around the Toronto area but have no idea about this one. Does anyone have any info on them?

Can someone please comment? Bill can you take a look perhaps.

Thanks!

Hi guys,

I have this much thinning on the back (Crown) I'm 30 years old and have been wearing a hairpiece for the last 6 years, I took propecia close to 10 years ago with not too much help as I stopped within a couple of years. I would like to use Rogaine or Generic Monoxidil to stop anymore hairloss in the crown(vertex) and possibly regrow if I can. I'm thinking of getting a transplant in the front. I have to keep the back top short to put the hairpiece on. Can I still use Rogaine or the Generic 5% Minoxidil with my condition effectively?

Thanks in advance!

Thanks Dewayne, I can probably take 2 weeks off, probably work from home a week and take another off. So you're saying 2 weeks post surgery it should be pretty much undetectable when I take off my hairpiece and then use the Toppik and tell everyone it's a new due (buzz cut)?

That will be really good! I've never heard of the clinic you mentioned, are they decent in their work? How much in general are they just out of curiosity?

Anyone?

Hello again,

I went for a consultation with Dr. Ferriera, he seems to be a really nice person and someone who knows what he's doing, I just wasn't sure because I haven't seen any posts about him on this forum. Does anyone have any experience with him? I'm thinking of getting my transplant from him but would like to get some feedback. Any feedback is much appreciated.

Hello again,

I went for a consultation with Dr. Ferriera, he seems to be a really nice person and someone who knows what he's doing, I just wasn't sure because I haven't seen any posts about him on this forum. Does anyone have any experience with him? I'm thinking of getting my transplant from him but would like to get some feedback. Any feedback is much appreciated.

This is great, I actually just asked a question related to this in the forum just now. I'm wearing a hairpiece currently and am afraid after getting a Transplant that it will be really thin, so how can I go back to work without having it noticed by people. I think a thickener or something like Toppik should help?