jaystev01

4 minutes ago, BaldV said:

It doesnt matter if its more recessed or not, there is one single NW grade for your whole head and its NW2

Wouldn't the more recessed side be Norwood 2.5

4 minutes ago, BaldV said:

there is no left and right, looks like a NW2

How can you not see that the left is markedly more recessed than the right. 

6 minutes ago, Martador said:

Norwood 1.5-2 imo (both temples). 

But it also could be a maturing hairline...

How so when the left temple is clearly more receded? Also isn't maturing hairline just a cope way to say balding but maybe not further balding

I am thinking left is norwood 2.5 and right is norwood 2? 

Either way this certainly seems to be male pattern balding, correct?

Thanks

39 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

@jaystev01 having just turned 22 I would not recommend having a hair transplants now. You state that their has been MPB in your family history. Your looks good but in ten years you could be a Norwood 6 and you won’t know this now if it were to happen. Stay on the meds and even if you feel nothing is improving then if nothing is getting worse then that means they are working. All the best!

Do you mean the donor microscope pics look good? Yeah that’s true, I really hope that isn’t the case tho 

23 minutes ago, duchaine said:

If you are 22, no way you should consider ht.

i know what you feel (i wanted to have an ht but pekiner wrongly diagnosed me dupa, aborted my op and my 200 grafts went into the toilet) but be patient.

Maybe you have some miniaturization, maybe not. But even if your hair are perfectly healthy, wait a decade.

I will be norwood 10 in a decade

Do you know what DUPA is? DUPA is miniaturisation of the donor area, yours seems fine but you need to check with a microscope. 

57 minutes ago, Berba11 said:

I didn't say you can't (though you most likely shouldn't). I asked you two questions (which you haven't answered yet).

In most cases you're too young. Even if you're taking finasteride, your hair loss will be at its most aggressive so it's vitally important to stabilise hair loss first and demonstrate this over a statistically significant period of time.

Secondly, in my experience on these forums, we often see young guys wanting a HT and, when they bother to submit photos, we see they don't really have enough hair loss to justify a HT in the first place.

Thirdly, good HT's are expensive. Most 22 year olds don't have the spare capital to fund a HT without loading themselves up with debt (bank loans), so there's a question of whether a HT is in the best financial interests of a young person (it mostly will not be).

Lastly - and don't take this the wrong way - but at 22 you're not going to be making the best long term decisions for yourself and to want a HT so young is an impulsive and reactionary approach to early hair loss. I had enough hair loss myself to easily justify a HT at 22, but am very, very happy that I didn't do anything so daft at that age. If your first port of call at the sight of hair loss is to prematurely jump to surgery (which should always be the last resort), then there exists real questions about your mental fitness for surgery and how you're thinking about your hair loss in general. Getting a HT is something of a rite of passage. You have to go through all the necessary steps first - one of which is learn to deal and live with your hair loss for an extended period of time. Most blokes make their peace with their hair loss and save themselves from a life time of medicine and surgeries. You mathematically cannot have given yourself time to do that at 22 years old, so you're self-evidently trying to skip the most important steps and get straight to the surgery part.

And if you can't find any peace with regards to the current state of your hair/hair loss, just consider how much worse you would feel if you went ahead with surgery and got botched at 22.

How is getting a hair transplant a rite of passage? Are you trying to gatekeep hair transplants 🤣Being bald/balding during the prime years of your life is absolutely miserable, and most people given the chance would remedy this provided they have the money and time (which I do). Balding at 35 and balding at 22 are two completely different things. To want a hair transplant at 22 does not indicate any sort of mental illness as you are suggesting, it is completely reasonable. Is going on accutane because you have acne as a teenager indicative of mental illness? Acne is just a part of life, as is hair loss. If I was losing my hair in my thirties, so be it. I am 22, meant to be at the peak of my physical attractiveness and SMV and yet am losing my hair rapidly, I look much older than I actually am as a result of this. 

"Most blokes make their peace with their hair loss and save themselves from a life time of medicine and surgeries"

I don't think  they make peace with it, rather, they cope with it and get on with it living life at a standard which is worse than if they had a full head of hair. 

You talk about getting botched, but I don't really know what you mean by that? Could you explain further

15 minutes ago, Berba11 said:

Why are you getting a HT at 22 years old and which doctor has agreed to that?

why cant i?

Can you guys let me know if my donor area looks OK? I fear there might be DUPA present? I need to know as I am considering hair transplant and am about to pay deposit.

22 yo male, on finasteride for 1 year. 

Some people say DUPA, then I send them another pic and they say no DUPA.... I just want a solid answer, its driving me insane. 

I am wondering whether these hairs would be considered miniaturised or whether they fall within the normal healthy range of shaft differences. 

Thanks! 

On 1/29/2024 at 11:49 PM, Dr. Glenn Charles said:

It appears that you have some miniaturized hairs but also some healthy multi hair follicular units. It would help if you showed a few photos of your hair from a distance also.How old are you? Is your hair thinning compared to before? What color is your hair or do you color it? These are just a few of the questions that given the answers might help to answer your question more accurately. 

Here are some better images as you requested.

https://imgur.com/a/xRqZEIf

40 minutes ago, Ccd99 said:

I believe I replied to you the other day on your other thread as well 

 

Up to 20% miniaturization is acceptable anything above could be considered as DUPA. This is something a HT surgeon near me said to me as I also have some miniaturization in my donor, but my donor density is also above average (> 100 FU/cm^2)

Yeah I think I have much more than 20% tho

13 hours ago, duchaine said:

You have some miniaturization. Dutasteride (both oral and injected into the donor) can help a lot.

I’ve heard that this is very ineffective in DUPA sufferers but I am on finasteride currently anyhow. 

1 hour ago, Ccd99 said:

Your donor looks good grown out! What microscope did you buy? 

Yes it looks fine grown out but that isn’t the issue, I want to get a hair transplant in future and DUPA is a contraindication 

Already on finasteride, I am not sure what the reason is. My dad has classic balding, grand father had full head of hair… no idea. 

I have eczema on my arms and have had bad bouts of folliculitis in the past so I’m not sure if that has anything to do with it. It seems that DUPA is extremely under researched. I would get a biopsy if there will be any value in that?

I’ve seen Harley street hair transplant surgeons and they are completely oblivious and treated me like an idiot when I said my donor is miniturising and said it was “impossible” in men. 

12 hours ago, Dr. Glenn Charles said:

It appears that you have some miniaturized hairs but also some healthy multi hair follicular units. It would help if you showed a few photos of your hair from a distance also.How old are you? Is your hair thinning compared to before? What color is your hair or do you color it? These are just a few of the questions that given the answers might help to answer your question more accurately. 

Hi Dr Charles,

Thank you very much for your reply.

I do not colour my hair, I will attach a photo of how it looks when grown out. 

I have noticed that the front is thinner, and I have some recession at the temples. I just turned 22 years old last month. 

I have purchased a new hand microscope so I will take some more zoomed out pictures later today. 

3 minutes ago, Eli_Avdikian said:

No it's not. Hair is naturally thinner around the ears. At worst it could be retrograde alopecia. Do you have a "microscopic" image ?

This is not from around the ears its BETWEEN the ears, like at the back of my head but between the two ears, that 'strip' so to speak. These are microscopic images?

Here is another picture more zoomed out, same region. 

These pictures were taken from the donor strip of my head (between the ears). I am wondering whether you guys think this is DUPA or not. 

Thanks!