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1 hour ago, vsma said:

wont put the amount but it came out to be just under £5 a graft

Ok, thanks!

Thanks for this, donor looks really great. Can I ask what the price was?

Yes. Restoring receded temples is arguably the most commonly desired result of a hair transplant. Your recession does not look very serious and since you are on finasteride I think you are a pretty good candidate for a HT.

On 5/21/2024 at 11:28 PM, mr_peanutbutter said:

dr gur and dr turan are also good but i heard they both also charge well over 2 eur per graft now

They don't. Gur is between 1 and 1.5 Eur/gr depending on the package and Turan is around 1.5 Eur/gr.

Congrats on the results! Is it just my sense or the area covered by the implanted grafts was relatively limited? It could well be because Pekiner implants in high densities but I was just wondering.

5 hours ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

could you link one?

I would have preferred some close-up pics of the hairline but considering the number of grafts used I think the following results are great. There are also some particularly successful cases of his on Reddit and on Hair Loss Conquerors on FB.
 

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/68763-dr-gokhan-gur-nw4-3220-grafts

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/69065-dr-gur-fuecapilar-clinic-nw-iiiv-3038-grafts/
 
https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/64403-2679-grafts-dr-gür-fuecapilar-my-experience/

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/69063-dr-gur-fuecapilar-clinic-nw-iii-iiia-2688-grafts

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/69635-dr-gur-fuecapilar-clinic-nw-iiv-diffuse-thinning-in-the-frontal-area-1959-grafts/

I really admire some Gur recent results, both here and on Reddit and HairLoss Conquerors. Tbf I am not that familiar with Bicer's work.

1 hour ago, Gustavo said:

He has plentiful good results , mate

Actually the best results in the last previous years in HLC belong to him and Ms EliF . And he does charge exactly half of pekinér s  1,75  vs 3,5 

Cheers 

Unless I am mistaken, Pekiner is still charging 2.7 Eur/graft.

I feel I have to state this for people who may be reading this but there are many doctors who can produce a far better result with the use of 4.400 grafts. The survival rate does not look great. It's ok-ish (probably a bit better if hair are left to grow) but it's not great. I really don't like the fact that Yaman uses these big number of grafts with mediocre results.

Good luck in the next steps of your journey!

Hair darkening is among the known side-effects of minoxidil, particularly in its oral form, if I am not mistaken.

Gur's standard package is at 3.800 Eur and I believe his results are superior to Yaman's.

I am sorry to see how this turned out but cudos for being so detailed and help other people avoid Yaman.

Gur has nice results in NW6 cases like yours. Then Turan, Nader, Pinto are also choices probably worth considering.

This is a very interesting thread. Apologies for slightly derailing it to ask for a suggestion!

I consider both donor maintenance and strategic use of grafts/efficient coverage among the most crucial parameters in choosing a surgeon. Unfortunately, I do not have the means to go for a 9 eur/gr surgery with Zarev which I think would be the best option for preserving my  donor (I am a NW 3A-4 and my donor capacity has been estimated at around 8k grafts).

That being said, I still want to minimise trauma so I can still retain the maximum donor area capacity I can and possibly go with either Zarev or some other innovative surgeon in the future, who can extract more grafts than conventional surgeons. 

I am wondering if anyone has any views on the extractions/punches and subsequent trauma that Pekiner, Gur, Turan, and Freitas perform and cause, which are currently the options I am considering (I also have a schedule consultation with Couto for 2025 but this will take longer) and who among those you think may be the best option focusing just on extractions/trauma? Or, otherwise put, who among those is the best to minimise the grafts lost for someone like Zarev or future Zarev disciples to operate on me some years down the line?

Hey, this is a terrific result, many thank for sharing this incredible journey!

Do you have any pics of the hairline?Would be nice to see it too-thanks

Congrats on your result 👏

I think this looks really great given the are covered and the amount of grafts used.

Just wanted to ask what is your sense of your hair at the front-do you feel they could be denser?

If you can afford it, just go for a consultation with Zarev. A consultation is not that much of a cost. If someone can give you a decent head of hair it's him (I do not think Pitella and Sethi are on the same league as Dr Z).

Would very strongly urge you to get on meds, if you are not already. I am afraid a HT is not sustainable otherwise in your case.

This result is so pleasing to the eye. Just wow!

On 2/15/2024 at 9:48 PM, A_4_Archan said:

Dr. Sethi is certainly a reputable doctor known for achieving good, natural-looking results. If you're exploring other options, here's a list of doctors categorized by their approximate pricing per graft:

2-3 euros per graft:

- HDC clinic

- Dr. Laorwong

- Dr. Pekiner

- Dr. Custodio

- Dr. Bicer

- Dr. Saifi

- Dr. Ximena Villa

- Dr. Heinicke

- Dr. Nader

- Dr. Camacho

- Dr. Keser

- Dr. Pathomvanic

 

3-5 euros per graft:

- Dr. De Freitas

- Dr. Pinto

- Dr. De Ferreira

- Dr. Pittela

- Dr. Couto

- Dr. Bisanga

- Dr. Mwamba

- Dr. Lupanzula

- Hattingen Clinic

- Dr. Nadimi

Above 5 euros per graft:

- Dr. Munib Ahmad

- Dr. Zarev

- Dr. Shapiro

- Dr. Konior

- Dr. Feriduni

There are other reputable doctors not included in this list due to lack of pricing information or i might not have sufficient knowledge about them so It's better to conduct your own research or seek opinions from other individuals regarding that.

View this list as a starting point for identifying skilled surgeons in different price ranges for consultation purposes.

I hope this helps you. Good Luck.

If I am not terribly mistaken and just for future reference for people who may be reading this in the future, my understanding is that Kesser is 3.5eur/gr and Nader around 3.5 too (depending on the number of grafts though) and so they should be in the second category.

Freitas on the other hand, is just below 3 eur/gr so should probably be in the first one. 

8 hours ago, xXFOLICILEDOMINIONXx said:

I reached out to the clinic today. They recommended I stop oral minoxidil and switch to topical minoxidil 1x/ day at nighttime. I will follow the clinic's directions but it does not inspire hope.

I'm 1 week away from 5 months and I look significantly worse than pre-transplant still. I'm trying not to panic but I haven't seen anyone with results like mine at almost 5 months. I'm trying to grow whatever native hair I have left out to cover things up but I have a feeling some of the native hair didn't survive the transplant from the way things look. Usually people see some sort of positives by now. I don't even have a complete hairline and look worse than most people pre-op.

If anyone has any examples of anyone as bad as me as 5 months that turned things around, I could really use some hope now. I am assuming I am a failed transplant at this point but i'll continue to update for the good of the journaling. ( plus journaling helps let some stress out )

 

Very best of luck brother! Stay strong and persevere!

3 minutes ago, bdenkha said:

Not at all man. We can't all have the same views. As you said, due to my level of baldness, I would have to have like 4/5 surgeries before I get full coverage, which is just not practical for me (being in Australia). But, I do appreciate your input, and that is what this forum is all about.

Will do a write up post-HT 

Thanks  

You are kind, thanks (4-5 might be a bit of stretch, don't be so pessimistic, 3 are usually fine for even the highest cases!)

Again very best of luck!

Maybe Dr P is too harsh and they just applied some rule of thumb regarding (specifically young?) diffused thinners. If you feel your hair loss has been halted by meds, I think most surgeons would take up your case. Definitely do some more consultations. Just be conservative with HT and the number of grafts, as you are still quite young. 

You may also consult a dermatologist to assess the current state of your hair. Switching to dutasteride may also be an option.

This is what happens with every HT. Transplanted hairs fall and they grow back during 3-12 months, that is precisely the plan.

So no reason to worry.

Both are excellent but Couto is the God.

And he has amazing results with insanely few grafts.

Donor looks pretty decent for 3500-3800 grafts taken. Let's hope they just lied to you and they just took significantly less. I think it can be repaired but you need to make a very efficient use of your grafts now.