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I think this is a good result, but I don't think it's similar to mine 😛

I like the naturalness of the hairline, but I find the density poor and with big irregular gaps, which kind of ruins it. About a touch up, I don't feel like shaving my head again, unless someone can do it without shaving the top (I don't mind the sides). But anyway I wouldn't go back to this clinic. They have lost my confidence and the relationship is ruined anyway.

I was originally quoted £4495 for 1500 grafts (without the PRP), but after the consultation the doctor recommended 1600-1800 grafts which they said they would do for the same price if I accept to have my photos on the website with blurred face. But in the end it seems like I didn't even get the original 1500.

It's one year today, so I'm posting some more photos that I took last night. Not much has changed since 6 months other than the length of the hair, but I didn't expect it to anyway. Say whatever you want or spin it however you like, I don't think this is a great result.

Thank you. That's what I've been saying all along, the hair is not going to sprout from nowhere, it will only sprout from where you planted them. And this you can see from day 1, you don't need to wait 18 months. I posted the post-op photos too in my first post, so feel free to count yourselves.

First time I hear about this. Convenient of you to mention it after I'm "no longer a promotional patient". Anyway, don't worry, I'm not interested in coming back. I actually recommended Dr. Sebastian to go a bit higher in order to preserve more of my donor area, which is why I got so upset when I found out about the huge difference in the graft numbers. I know very well the numbers that you claim. All I asked for you is to explain in a logical way how we got from the 1800 grafts and 1750 incisions that you claimed, to the ~1400 extractions and ~1075 incisions that I counted. You did the surgery, surely you must know what you did. Your continuous failure to do so only means one thing to me. Ultimately, it is honesty which matters most. See you at month 12.

It might get a bit better after 1+ year, but I'm not expecting a big improvement. I mean it's obvious from the original photos that the implants are quite sparse. Hair is not gonna magically sprout from nowhere. I'm not considering a touch up at the moment. I've been growing it for 8 months now and really don't feel like going back to shave my head and have another surgery. I have been considering topical finasteride to improve the overall situation a bit, but I'm quite reluctant to mess with my hormones for the sake of my hair. I've been on the fence about this for years.

Hi Davies, sorry for the late reply. I have this account linked to a mailbox that I'm not monitoring. I've attached photos from the 6 month mark. It turned out as I expected it to when I made this post. The density is not great, but it's not terrible. As for the distribution, the sparser patch on my left side that I pointed out in the original photos is still there, but I'm parting my hair towards my left to cover it. So if you see my right side in the photos being a bit sparse, my left side is even worse if I parted it the other way. Anyways, I'm not entirely unhappy, it's still better than before and it could have been worse, but it could also have been better. If I had to do it again, I would choose more carefully. And yes, of course I'm moving on with my life, what else will I do? 😄

Thank you for the replies. I appreciate the feedback. I know that part of my account above is probably overthinking and some of my statements a bit unkind in the heat of the moment and I feel bad for that, on top of all the other things. But it is how I honestly felt about everything. Many interpretations are subjective (personally I find the temple areas behind the frontal hairline to be extremely sparse), but let’s stick to the numbers for now, as I got contacted by the clinic today, so I gave them a chance to explain. Low count in the donor area (1400 vs. 1800) They said that my low count in the donor area is because there are some follicular units with 4 or 5 hairs that they split in two in order to get more grafts. There were no 4s or 5s in the graft counts that they gave me so I asked if the counts were after the splitting or not. They said there are typically about 10% of 4s that are split and then added to the graft count. I counted about 1400 extraction sites, but let’s say that I was off by 200 and there were 1600. Add 10% that were split in two and we go to 1760, almost the 1800 that they claimed. Not quite there but not terrible. I’m not going to make a fuss over 200 grafts. Low count in the recipient area (1070 vs. 1750) This is the more serious one. They said that my low count in the recipient area is because they do doubling up or packing of the grafts, which means they put two grafts in one incision. So each graft that I was counting was actually two grafts. That would explain my low count, but then I asked why did you claim that you did 1750 incisions? Shouldn’t that be half? And they said no, because only 10% are doubled up. But that contradicts their explanation for my low count. And on we’ll go in circles, answering but not really answering. Which is why I didn’t want to contact them in the first place. I didn’t expect to get any straight answers. Anyway, I am sick to the bone thinking about hair so I’m not going to chase this anymore. I seriously can’t. I might be back in 6 months with some photos as I agreed with them and we’ll see how it looks then.

I had my FUE Hair Transplant with Westminster Medical Group in London on the 22nd of February 2023, under the care of Dr. Flaviu Sebastian Deme, who performed the injections and the incisions, while two technicians performed the extraction and implantation of the grafts. I wrote a full seven-page account of my experience here a few days ago, which could be considered unfairly harsh to the clinic, so I have edited my post to focus on the biggest questions only, as a reference for future patients that might have the same doubts. The main issue arose after I went home and was told that the grafts in the donor area don’t seem to match the grafts in the recipient area. This prompted me to count them, which yielded some numbers that didn’t match the numbers claimed by the clinic. Specifically they claimed that they got 1800 grafts from the donor area when I counted 1400, and more strikingly that they performed 1750 incisions in the recipient area, when I could only count 1070. I don’t claim that my counts are 100% accurate, I surely must have miscounted a few grafts here and there, but I don’t believe that I was off by hundreds. You can have a look for yourself if you want, I have provided the photos that I used, with and without the red dots. Some of the red dots are smaller than others because of the annoying Preview software on Mac, but if you zoom in you can see all of them. I have used mainly photos from day 3 for the count, where I had the clearest images and before I had touched the grafts or taken a shower. The main explanation that I could think of was that there was a big graft wastage during the extraction process, due to the potential inexperience of the technicians, speed of the operation, small 0.65mm punches? That I do not know so it is only speculation on my part. Please see the replies to this post for more explanations. My next concern was about the density and distribution of the grafts in the recipient area. I felt from the first day that the density was not great, but what bothered me more is the distribution of the grafts. In their marketing they boast about their natural hairlines, which is one of the things that attracted me to them. They claim that they use fine hairs for the front of the hairline, with a micro irregular design instead of a straight line and gradually getting denser behind the front, but I felt that the frontal hairline was planted with higher density and the temples behind seemed quite sparse, which was even more apparent after the scabs had fallen off, leaving those empty patches that you can see in the photos behind the front line. There might be some shedding in the later photos, but you can see this pattern from the first days, even before the scabs had fallen or I had touched the hairs or taken any showers. People have replied that the results look good and that I am overthinking this, which might be the case, but I just wanted a transparent explanation about these discrepancies, so they can make sense in my head and some impartial opinions about the density and distribution. Please feel free to share your opinion and thanks to everyone that has shared their feedback.