takuma

On 3/20/2024 at 11:43 AM, DrTBarghouthi said:

Hi guys,

Apologies for the silence. We just finished an FUE case and injected 4 different doses of Verteporfin in specific areas of the mid scalp in order to be able to go back to the exact spots. We used SMP around the areas extracted but also measured precisely the location of each of the spots. The dosages used were: 0.4 mg, 0.6, 0.8 and 1 mg. Photos were taken using the Tricholab system. Will update and share shortly. Happy to hear about all the updates from the community and @Melvin- Admin

Dr Bargouthi's new trial started in March, in his previous trial in 2022 we started seeing indications of regrowth at a month and 12 days precisely 42 days ...in this case it's been a little over 2 months ...this next update should be interesting as the original trials 2 month update showed several hairs sprouting up.

On 5/1/2024 at 5:09 PM, CureSeeker said:

Yes, dissolved into 1X PBS solution via ultrasonic cleaner, and I used 30 Gauge 4mm mesotherapy needles and injected them at full depth.

Any progress on your verteporfin microneedling test? Have u noticed any healing differences or anything?

i don't think Bloxham's trial failed, i think he's behind on his updates is all. Hopefully we'll get an update soon

i think Melvin's right...that doesn't mean u shouldn't get verteporfin injected into your donor...you definitely should...but u should go to a reputable surgeon to have it done so you don't end up regretting it if u have a bad overall result.

Bloxham Boxham where art thou Bloxham 

43 minutes ago, Jay Dunman said:

Lol that's my point dude. He DID do it and no follow up or no comments from the patient. If the guy knew to track down Barghouthi for Verteporforin surely he's aware of the rest of us on here. Why no updates? And why no full FUE this time around either? This is starting to make me think this is just a fundraiser project at this point 

I get what ur saying...but if the patient wanted to remain anonymous, we can't blame the doctor for that...

26 minutes ago, Jay Dunman said:

I'm confused why Dr. Barghouthi didn't do a full FUE with Verteporforin. You wouldn't even need the fancy equipment to tell if it works at that point. These small area exercises won't really give us a full indication. It's just too hard to micro point to this and that and say officially it works. 

Many watching surgeons will be skeptical because of this. dr. B mentioned he did a full FUE with verteporforin once before. Why not ask that patient for a follow up to see if he has the typical FUE scars? Worried that it didn't work hence no follow ups. Not likely someone so invested in verteporforin would go to Jordan to get it done fully and then not care to follow up if the results were amazing 

If i remember correctly he did do a full fue with verteporfin on a patient last year, i wonder how their results are looking.

17 minutes ago, Der3k7 said:

Are you talking about the video with Dr visage where they discussed the photo? Based on that it seems he was suggesting there’s too much noise in the signal to noise to really attribute that picture to verterporfin and then the trial by Stanford was done on mice 

Dr Bargouthi's original experiment had regrowth... that's what got the community so hyped up in the first place... its at the very beginning of this thread 

Also verteporfin plus wounding the recipient area if it works would be better than verteporfin + hair transplant because it would allow u to grow back your original hairline. A hair transplant hairline is not the same as the natural one you are born with 

2 hours ago, DrTBarghouthi said:

Areas marked 35: 0.4 mg Verteporfin

Areas marked 36: 0.6 mg Verteporfin

Areas marked 37: 0.8 mg Verteporfin 

Areas marked 38: 1 mg Verteporfin 

 

Hi guys,

Just wanted to share some photos of the latest trial. We have marked the areas injected both using a spot measure and also Scalp Micropigmentation. 7-8 follicles were removed from each marked area within the actual boundaries of the SMP. The removed grafts were all inspected and there were no transections seen. 

 

 

0.4 mg Verteporfin (Before and after injection immediately)

 

 

 

0.6 mg Verteporfin (Before and after injection immediately)

 

 

 

0.8 mg Verteporfin (Before and after injection immediately)

 

 

 

 

1 mg Verteporfin (Before and after injection immediately)

 

 

This is amazing work! thank you Dr Bargouthi! can't wait to see how the different verteporfin concentration areas heal up and the results of the trial

Keep in mind Dr Bargouthi is a pioneer and the first to do a verteporfin hair transplant..and has updated us every step of the way for the patients recovery and results.... he is the reason we have so much hype and data showing it works! .....he should be treated with respect and not doubt...im sure he is just very busy that's why he hasn't updated lately ...im looking forward to Dr Bloxham's next update as well with his FUT trials

12 minutes ago, Dragonsphere said:

Respectfully, what further update are you waiting for?

He advised less than two months ago he has found a volunteer but a date has yet to be confirmed. 

It can take several months from interview to the schedule date of the procedure as with any HT operation. 

He already injected a patient with verteporfin last year....Maybe he has new update on the progress,  perhaps new pics of that patient's donor ....just asking, respectfully 

On 1/29/2024 at 2:18 PM, DrTBarghouthi said:

Hi guys,

I do understand the frustration of the ongoing delays and I just want to reassure you that such delays were beyond anyone’s control. 

We did have multiple issues with suitable volunteers in terms of their availability and follow up potential, as well as the ongoing issue of making sure that we have a reliable and constant supply of the medication. In addition to that, it did take us some time to arrange and purchase any missing equipment that we need for a more objective study. It is important at this stage to carry out decent trials - for purposes of being objective and as scientific as possible. 

Having said that, there has been steady progress taking place in the background. We do have two volunteers. One Volunteer will have a full FUE with Verteforfin, while the other one will have Verteporfin injected in the bald areas of his scalp to see if there could be any potential improvement or growth. We have also managed to engage with a suitable supplier that can provide us with Verteporfin. I am placing a test order with them in these coming days to make sure their process is smooth. We have also received the photography device we need for research. I have booked two dates for these two trials- but I will refrain from mentioning the exact dates so as not to cause any further disappointment for now. 

Finally, I have seen some nice recovery photos from our FUE patient who had his donor fully injected with Verteporfin after 2-3 months ago, and his donor is looking good. I will check with him if he wishes for his photos to be shared. 

Thanks Dr Bargouthi, is there any new update on the upcoming trials or with the previous patient that you injected with verteporfin fully after an fue?

1 hour ago, Dragonsphere said:

Do you have a link?

I wonder how long after the injection the second pic was?

i don't have a link but he updates regularly in the verteporfin telegram group , you can dm me for the link

so i regret to inform you all that the user that was using simvastatin on his scar, the scar returned, but he got verteporfin and has been using it since on the wound with microneedling. This is how his wound looks now... it's the pic on the right

2 minutes ago, Hair Tomorrow said:

Stanford fiddled 12 studies but there's no way Stanford would fiddle a study?

in order to accept this notion we have to also believe that every subsequent study conducted by the Chinese researchers was also "fiddled" why would they bother....seems a little counterproductive when ur not selling anything 

14 minutes ago, DrTBarghouthi said:

Hi guys,

I do understand the frustration of the ongoing delays and I just want to reassure you that such delays were beyond anyone’s control. 

We did have multiple issues with suitable volunteers in terms of their availability and follow up potential, as well as the ongoing issue of making sure that we have a reliable and constant supply of the medication. In addition to that, it did take us some time to arrange and purchase any missing equipment that we need for a more objective study. It is important at this stage to carry out decent trials - for purposes of being objective and as scientific as possible. 

Having said that, there has been steady progress taking place in the background. We do have two volunteers. One Volunteer will have a full FUE with Verteforfin, while the other one will have Verteporfin injected in the bald areas of his scalp to see if there could be any potential improvement or growth. We have also managed to engage with a suitable supplier that can provide us with Verteporfin. I am placing a test order with them in these coming days to make sure their process is smooth. We have also received the photography device we need for research. I have booked two dates for these two trials- but I will refrain from mentioning the exact dates so as not to cause any further disappointment for now. 

Finally, I have seen some nice recovery photos from our FUE patient who had his donor fully injected with Verteporfin after 2-3 months ago, and his donor is looking good. I will check with him if he wishes for his photos to be shared. 

Thank you so much Dr Bargouthi @DrTBarghouthi....I have a question regarding the second trial patient , will you be injecting the bald area of their scalp with or without wounding it first via incisions, or punches, microneedling, etc. Because from my understanding of the mechanism of the drug is that it works by healing wounds without scars and with that as a result comes back normal skin with hair follicles and sweat glands, so if there isn't a significant depth wound, then it may not make any difference if verteporfin was injected there.

6 hours ago, sansi said:

@DrTBarghouthi if I'm not asking too much, hopefully you could also invite the first trial patient to have an assessment via the new device. Thus we will have better photos and hair count of the treated/untreated areas.

Thank you again for all the efforts !

That is a great idea! 

31 minutes ago, Hairlossingfast said:

Don't rush the man!  He updates on his timeline, not yours!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not rushing him at all...i only asked...calm down lol

Hey @DrTBarghouthi It seems You weren't able to update last week, will you be able to update on the second trial this week, Thank you for all you're effort and for consistent updates 🙂

On 1/16/2024 at 10:43 PM, DrTBarghouthi said:

Hi guys. I totally understand and I will update you with details by the end of this week- We are going ahead and nothing changed in terms of that. 

Thank you so much @DrTBarghouthi will you be updating us on the new trial today; has the date been set,

how many patients is it. Will you be doing a recipient area trial or a full fue trial? 

1 hour ago, JackDig said:

@takuma could you also DM me the telegram group link as well ? Thanks a lot !

check ur dm bro

12 minutes ago, bigmistake said:

1) Why is his skin pink in colour ?

2) How did he make simvastatin into a topical formulation. Did he mix it with minoxidil ?

3) How do we know this is not just some troll ?

Statins are tried and tested safe drugs. Maybe some HT doctor can put it on one single FUE scar and see what happens. That FUE scar can be encircled with some SMP.

i don't know how he got topical simvastatin, my guess is he got it compounded at the pharmacy; i don't think he mixed it with minoxidil. I don't think he's a troll, he has nothing to gain. 

11 minutes ago, whippedOmlette said:

Hey, I have a similar problem. Can you please share the group link in DM please? Thank you so much

Check your dm bro 🙂

1 hour ago, Greg211 said:

Hey can you sent me an invitation to telegram group? My donor area is depleted and I’m really interested to see if this could help me ..

I gotchu bro, im in the same boat.. maybe more so... weak donor even though ive never even had a hair transplant... check ur dms bro