Chiku

I really do not have good pics which shows the donor well, most pics before are with long hairs. You can find some pics in this link.

They suggested that I just do the hairline with 500 scalp and focus on crown with 500 scalp and 2000 beard. ALl in the next sitting. They may be right. But I prefer to use the 1000 scalp grafts which they feel they could still extract along with 1500-2000 beard for the front and mid scalp. Will leave crown for another day. IF they tell me on the day of procedure that there will be no grafts left for crown with the above plan, I may change the plan a little bit to save some scalp hairs for the crown. I feel that they will be in better position to asses the future plan for the day and future plan when they see my donor in person. I took all the pics at the same spot. I know why the pic you are referring does not appear to be in bright light. In this pic I had my head tilted upwards while the camera was also above my eye level. So the picture captured more of the frontal view than the top view, as opposed to the subsequent pics where head is neutral and the camera is right on top of the scalp.

You are right. I learned it as my results were maturing in the past few months. It is hard to find great results on norwood seven patients with severely depleted donor undergoing HT with use of body hair in ratio of 1:2, and only with 3000 odd total grafts. Perhaps None! Most Norwood 7 with depleted donor who got great results, with high proportion of beard hair use,( some cases even in 1:1 ratio)still had a lot of scalp hairs extracted with the total count being over 10,000 grafts. So they did not have severely depleted donor despite prior HTs.

They expected frontal view to improve drastically at the time of transpant. I do not know what else they expected, but they say that the results will improve beyond 12 months.

All pics are in direct bright light of bathroom mirror.( except the one with a rug on the floor). The difference is in the angles at which they are taken. First pic is with camera( phone camera) right at eye level and then moving it up for the subsequent pics.

Thanks. I expected better results than that initially. Expectations were based on before and after videos on youtube with similar grade of baldness and more or less same number of grafts used. But I have accepted that with limited grafts this is what I could have achieved. I am pleased with the overall results and very happy with the front view. Dr. Arika Bansal, Comprehensive package. Thanks. Doctors say that the results are on track and fibers can be used to enhance the results. But, I understand it is hard even for them to predict the outcome as results depend on so many variable, including hair thickness. SO three thousand scalp grafts with a lot of 3+ hairs per graft in someone with untouched donor may have been a much better outcome from all angles including viewing from the top. I do plan to go back to them soon to get another session with 1K scalp and 2 K beard grafts. Just focusing on the same areas which they did last time. My beard hairs have texture similar to my scalp hairs.

No worries. I am happy with the frontal view. It has improved significantly. But the top view has been an area of concern.

These are after pics, after 11.5 months. The above link will give you the before pics.

Repair with Eugenix last year.Three prior FUTs in early 2000's. All pics in bright light, except the one with carpeted floor. Any comments , feedback appreciated.

11.5 months update. 3000 grafts, 2000 scalp, 1000 beard. All are in bright light except, the fourth one( carpeted floor) is in a room without lights on.

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1000 beard hairs taken from under the chin, no signs whatsoever shaved or unshaved. Southeast Asian descent.

Agree.

evn texture is different so it doesn't look natural at all. It depends from person to person. Outcome aside, my transplanted scalp and bead hairs look very similar, and the ratio was 66/33.

The choices offered are way two extremes. A lot of people will fall somewhere in-between. Adding two more choices which represent the feelings of vast majority of patients will help include many more in the poll. Great question though.

I had 1000 beard grafts, that is the likely reason for the 12 month wait time.

Thanks for your input. I have been in touch with them, so I personally do not expect/need them to respond on this forum. I can get answers from them directly. I posted these pics to see what others have to think about the results as I had growing concerns about the density. There was no ambiguity with the verdict the forum gave.

Good or bad candidate, suitable or unsuitable candidate, these labels were not given. But some specifics were discussed. I distinctly recall me asking some specific questions about "see through" under light. Well before the transplant date was confirmed, they said that under bright light my scalp may have a see through and if a camera is clicked with flash on, that may make your scalp shine in the picture.

Appreciate your input Z. 'technique and ethics for failed cases' I am no one to comment on their or on any other surgeons technique. I believe most of us will go by their results and results of other patients. As for ethics, they have been in constant tough with me. I communicate with them regularly. They have asked me to wait for at least 12 months to see the full results before thinking of any future transplants. So I do not see anything wrong there.

Top view post transplant with long hair.

They did not tell me that I have a good head of hair. No comments, specifically about being a good or bad candidate were made. Hope it gets better in the months to come. I had strip too 20 years ago. Use your own judgement, no two patients are same. Each have their unique characteristics and histories. They have many great results patients with similar profile as yours. Am sure you have seen their youtube playlist for grade VII norwood results. I was always told that my hairs are thin caliber. They are definitely not DHT affected thin, if that's what you thought I implied when I said they are thin. Inherently they are thin. which pic did you see which make you think that they are super thick. Z below also mentions in his comment "donor hairs are a bit weak" . Dr. Arika Bansal. Yes FUTs in the past. Will wait and see if growth improves in the next few months.

True. Also what is debatable is the whether it is an inherent condition of scalp which led to several procedures due to suboptimal outcome from prior procedure OR multiple procedures caused the scalp condition inhospitable for future grafts.

Agree, in hindsight. But sometimes you feel there is nothing to loose. Possibly poor outcome could be related to prior HTs. Any thoughts? Eugenix, they feel that it may improve up to 12 months. But had prior HTs elsewhere.

Had several HTs done in the past.

Thanks Rafael.