Burns

18 hours ago, BeHappy said:

For anyone who is trying to cover a FUT scar, you shouldn't pack grafts in too tight. Because of the scar tissue and blood supply, you have to space the grafts apart. There is a better chance of good growth that way. It may take you two sessions to cover the scar properly, but that's better than throwing 1000 grafts at it all at once and end up with nothing growing.

 

Thank you for telling us, good advice!

2 hours ago, ANDYMAL said:

Sounds logical BeHappy, but unfortunately it was already done by 'The Experts' at Eugenix, who never mentioned that to me, nor did they do this!  Perhaps they aren't as knowledgeable in this field, so for future clients you could be Eugenix's spokesperson, and suggest this! They did comment it was an extremely wide and lengthy scar so 1000 implants barely scratched the surface-it wasn't like it was packed as Times square at 5pm on a a Friday evening, there were gaps visible.  But to actually have no regrowth at all has left me dumbfounded and saddened beyond belief. 

They were totally BS, I dunt think they do the job right, they might alrdy damage the follicles before they implanted on your crown, they should take responsibility for that after they wasted that much of hairs and all the money but for nothing, way below average. 

On 6/14/2023 at 1:24 PM, ANDYMAL said:

Yes you are correct. the first picture is 14 months after 2600 implants were done on the crown and just forward of the crown. According to the Doctor the implants they did were visible enough to claim that it was an ok job! The scar pictures are 2 months  after the implants and 14 months after, [with the longer hair covering] the scar. The last is my original crown when i was looking to do the job. To me i thought 2600 could of been a little better job, but.......?

Yes totally, nearly5000hairs? Should be much better than this, I honestly don’t think this is a successful done, were you doing FUE+FUT? You should share your experience and let people know which Doctor was that, Doctors should know how struggling we already are when we dealing with hair loss, they really should do better, I hope you feel way better when you have your SMP done, please stay positive, you are not alone.

4 hours ago, ANDYMAL said:

Hi Burnsy,

I had 1000 grafts put into the FUT scar. 500 beard, 500 scalp. The crown and mid scalp got a total of 2600, all scalp hair. The 1st crown picture [14 months post  operation] show what 1800 implants have done to the overall look and the density? 

It was about 1800 crown and the rest [800] in the mid scalp to strengthen behind the hairline.

Their concern was a lack of blood flow may impede regrowth of the FUT implants, so i am assuming that is the reason i had no regrowth, rather than a botched job.

 After going to Eugenix i visited an SMP specialist Adrian [Gatsby] suggested, and whilst they were really helpful, they wanted me to wait about 6-8 months post op to see how the scar implants worked. Now we know it was a fail, i can visit to see if i can get an SMP job as good as Adrian's was.  With the harvesting of the donor area looking miserable still, the visibility of the scar still pronounced, and the crown looking meagre, not to mention a fail on my eyebrow job, it was a real sloppy turnout, overall, that has shocked me deeply. Hopefully a good Scar SMP job may at least brighten my life. 

Thanks for your sharing mate, I m not so sure I can tell which picture is transplanted? Are you saying the first picture is 14months after the HT surgery ? And there have none regrowth after they transplanted 2600grafts of your hair? What did the Doctor say then? They blamed to the blood flow of your scalp?  

4 minutes ago, AlexMeister21 said:

From the photos I saw, you definitely have good donor. I think they wanted you to do FUT because maybe it would have been easier on their end since FUE requires more labor. Do you know if they do multiple surgeries a day?

Yeaa… I was exactly thinking the same, I just so tired to argue with them, since they rescheduled my appointment, and also when I was done with my HT, I saw another patient was on his go already. And Doctor is quite famous in Korea, no doubt he had tight schedule, but still that was my decision and my fault even under that much pressure that moment, I should stand up for myself 

5 hours ago, BillyHopkins88 said:

@Burns fue hopefully , give it a few months mate you'll feel a little better 🤕

Maybe contact a few more doctors see if they are experienced in massive FUE HT surgery before further discussion. It’s a life change decision, don’t rush.

9 hours ago, Rawkerboi said:

You never wanted FUT then why you went for FUT and FUE? 

Was your donor density less? 

Also you said you got 4000 hairs from the FUT and FUE combo but how many grafts were implanted? 

Care to share your results? 

They said wouldn’t be good if I go for FUE only, most of the people said I have good donor density, so I don’t know, they are experts. They count as Hairs, 1 graft is like normally 1-3 hairs, I guessed nearly 2500-3000grafts they implanted, and you can check the previous msg for more details of the story, so stressed to talk about, sorry

On 6/10/2023 at 5:43 AM, BillyHopkins88 said:

@Burns Wow this is the clinic I was speaking to alot 😂

Emmm……I hope what happened to me won’t happen on you🤕 FUT OR FUE Are you planning to? 

On 6/7/2023 at 10:16 AM, BillyHopkins88 said:

@Burns can I ask what clinic you went to please I've been speaking to a few over the last few weeks 😄

Woomchan clinic, unpleasant experience, especially the after service 

13 hours ago, AlexMeister21 said:

No, I don't recall having itchiness in my scar. Have you always had that? Only felt some pain and soreness in my scar for like 3-4 months after my Diep surgeries.

Yes I still feel a bit itchy till now(9months), and may I ask do you keep on any medication for hair loss?

Ohhhh that’s awful what Diep did, he was once my first option. We do have a similar scar issue, it really sucks, and the hair angle at my right temple is incorrect exactly like yours, I can’t comb my hair down. My scar line still feel itchy, is that normal to you? 

11 hours ago, Gatsby said:

 

Thanks Man, this is quite amazing, I couldn’t tell you have any work done on it, totally invisible, my blank area is quite wider, hope it works on me too

Thanks again, you have a good day

5 hours ago, ANDYMAL said:

Hi, about 20 Years ago i had FUT surgery that left a scar from ear to ear that was wider than yours. I had to keep my hair long to cover it, but when i got wet hair the scar was extremely unsightly and very visible. Then 14 months ago i went to Eugenix in India to have work done, hoping for some help, and the scar was 2nd on my list of to dos. My crown was first, and my very thinned out eyebrows were third.

They implanted scalp and beard hair into the FUT scar, to the point where on the day, it looked totally covered.

Even though the Doctor cautioned that it may not regrow in the scar, i took a punt on it working.

14 months down the track, just recently, i had a video call with Dr.Arika and another senior female Doctor, who finally were resigned to the fact, that not only my FUT scar replenishment was an abject total failure, but to their amazement, my eyebrow implants were very poorly done. My Crown, which i was also very disappointed in, [lack of density] was contentious as they said you can come in for more work to thicken the sparseness, but my thought was why didn't they just do it then? No one really asked how far apart do you want the grafts implanted-i just said give me what Melvin was given! What they put in has grown but i was unhappy with the job, sadly, as the crown is still very empty, and Dr. Arika was hesitant when i showed her, initially, realising and agreeing to the lack of density, but explained, the grafts, that they had implanted, however wide, and thin they were, still regrew.

But, even then,  they were prepared to write my op. off and refund me for my eyebrows and scar work that failed.

I said can we give it 3 more months, for the scar and brows, which they would wait to see if miracles happen, then we will close the chapter on my miserable failed Eugenix venture.

I am now looking at a last resort and SMP, for my FUT scar, as a plastic surgeon i consulted wasn't willing to minimise the scar as he believes they weaken and get even wider, potentially. Sad, for me and the total experience, but the blood flow in the scar region wasn't good enough for regrowth. It looks the same as it was 20 years ago. SMP is the last frontier i think. Caveat emptor.

That is really sad and I can see how stressful it would be, my scar is pretty long too, I need to wear my hair long to cover it which isn’t really comfortable, and when my hair get wet or oily, it is pretty visible, that also makes me very insecure. I am sorry to hear that your 2nd HT experience wasn’t good, they really should discuss more with you and let you know more about the surgery details before they operated it, do you know how many grafts had you implanted on your crown?

and if you don’t mind, could you share a pic of your scar, how is the skin texture looks like now, but it’s okay if you don’t want to. 
I hope you do find some improvement in soon future

4 hours ago, AlexMeister21 said:

My scar is pretty much the same size as yours. I had about 600 beard hair grafts transplanted into it four months ago and it's growing pretty well, but I could tell my scar is still going to be a problem. I don't know what your hair loss situation is like, but you seem to have a good donor so perhaps you could have some hair transplanted in the scar.

Is 600 grafts enough to cover your scar? Because mine is pretty long and wide and The Doctor told me I might not be able to do a second HT because lack of donor hair from the beginning, and I barely have any facial hair or body hair. Do you mind to show how yours looks like now? Thank you for your reply 

10 hours ago, baldfighter said:

I am so sorry to hear your experience. It's not your fault, the clinic should not push you to make a life changing decision without giving you time to think about it.

I think the scar can be concealed pretty well with grafts placed into it. The frontal hair direction might be more complicated to fix but it's possible. I think Dr. Feriduni does this kind of repair quite often.

Thankyou, I really do feel better after I told you guys, I hope no one would experience what was happened to me, this is so stressful and helpless. I m still looking for something that I can do at this stage, anything could help even a tiny improvement  

thanks again 

10 hours ago, Gatsby said:

@Burns I'm so sorry to hear what happened. It also happened to myself many years ago and continues to happen. At 12 months post op you could consider having SMP to change the contrast of the scar and your black hair. This should make the scar less obvious. Then a year after that you could consider having beard hair or body hair placed into the scar via FUE. Vertoporfin is a long way away but something that you could consider if it ever gets approved. All the best.

Thanks man, SMP is a good idea, although I still hope the blank area could be regrowth even a bit and less noticeable. May I ask how wide your scar is? And how natural is it after you did smp? 

mine is like a finger wide

11 minutes ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

no its likely that i can also remove existing scar tissue. in your csse they could cut the scar out, apply verteporfin and the scar should disappear

But what about the follicles on the scalp? Do you mean cut out the blank area? And it will regrow with follicles? That’s kind of Magic if so 

37 minutes ago, baldfighter said:

You seem to have good donor density. You can try to place grafts into the scar to hide it.

Just curious why you went with FUT even though you didn't want it?

I thought I have good donor density before I had my HT, but unfortunately I was told by the Doctor that I wasn’t, that was also how they “convinced” me to go thro with FUT. 

Yes I never want to go with FUT, I asked for FUE from the beginning because I know I would be so depressed if this happened. I went to Korea by myself, and the first day should just be a simple consultation so I have time to think of the options, but I was told my consultation appointment was rescheduled to the same day of the surgery (AM Consult PM surgery) after I alrdy confirmed my flight ticket and hotel room and all the staff, even I told them I would like to stick with the original plan, they left me no choice. Then, that morning at the Clinic Doctor gave me a rush consultation, and told me I need to go with FUT if I want a better result, and I needed to decide immediately, I was super stressed and felt pressured at that moment, so I made a bad decision which is totally my fault. 
 This experience taught me that Never agreed to a rush consultation, HT is a lifetime surgery, a lot of small things you should discuss and let the doctor and team know, like the hairline shape, temple angle, hair direction…which I had none detail discussion  ps. I can not comb my fringe down because of the direction they implanted

24 minutes ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

you should follow the verteporfin thread

 

verteporfin could make your scar disappear 

this guy got fut surgery with verteporfin after already going through multiple fut surgeries before

 

https://m.youtube.com/@TheHairChemist

 

in a few months we will know if his scarring got noticable decreased or not

Wow I have never heard of this, thankyou for sharing this information, I just took a quick look, seems it only works on new wounds? Or go with the surgery at the same time?  But still this is very informative, hope this will help people never go through what I m experiencing. I still hope there is some way I can do

9 minutes ago, BRITA-XL said:

Some people will have BHT grafts placed in to the scar, others may have scar revision. I have had a scar revision on mine and while it improved it’s far from perfect, I am looking at getting Beard grafts implanted next. 

so there is no way it will regrowth?? This really stresses me out  And sadly I don’t have much facial hair, this might not be a option for me

I had a HT surgery in Korea last year. 
That was a unpleasant experience,

I had FUE+FUT(nearly 6000 hairs)transplanted, I didn’t want to do it by FUT because I was very worried about the scar problem, and now it really happened to me. 
Now(After 9 months)

No sign of regrowth, very stressed and helpless, don’t know what to do.

do you guys think I should try steroid injection? Or anything else I can do?

Thank you for your time 

Any updates?

On 8/31/2020 at 2:53 PM, daood k said:

same thing happened to me after my FUT, went to all specialist dermo etc.. in the end it was established it was due to scar being left opened for a long period, blood flow was blocked. so in the end it was doctors fault and he admitted. i never took anything from him though he offered free services smp etc 

This whole threads are so scary and sad how the Doctor responded, the man is already suffered a lot, before and after, problem exchange problem?

may I know how is your scar looks like now? Is the smp cover it well?

Hi thank you for sharing all these progress to us. I have a similar loss problem in my FUT CUT AREA(5months now), and it really worry me, may I ask How is your scar area going now? Do the hairs grow all back? Thank you very much