Tybwl5

Looks good, I did consider dr gur or bicer because they are a lot cheaper and do decent quality, but the majority of doctors in turkey cannot be trusted. I would rather pay a good amount for a doctor with experience with good results especially considering it’s my first hair transplant and I’m only 32. If I need more grafts down the road I don’t need a hair mill over harvesting the back of my head.

@mystugots - I have a hair transplant scheduled for next month with dr bisanga. I have done years of research on surgeons especially in turkey and I just don’t trust anyone over there. I would rather spend 15k to 20k then to risk being butchered for 2k in turkey 

How much was it for the surgery and how many grafts?

On 7/24/2023 at 12:32 PM, james blonde said:

thank you everyone.

from what i read in the forum, dr. zarev's waiting list is very long.

 

I got an answer from dr. Bisanga's clinic and he will accept me.

i'm quite excited by his answer and wonder if i should check some more doctors or topics before scheduling a surgery with him within 2 months.

I was thinking about going with dr bisanga too and I also have semi blonde hair and a Norwood 5 possibly 6, he said I would need about 3,500 grafts but he’s also going to take from the beard and chest. He quoted me around 17,000 which to me is alot of money and I heard he doesn’t do the whole surgery either, he had technicians that finish the implanting I think

On 5/3/2023 at 7:20 AM, OliverAtom said:

Dr Konior prices are up there too. But you are guaranteeing your result for sure. 

If you want a VIP service with Dr Bisanga, one of the VERY BEST, I think he has the right to tag his work at €20/graft. If I had the money I wouldnt mind paying that but... I could never pay so, I will have more options within my budget. 

I am sure more doctores will start offering this VIP Exclusive services. With a lot more clinics doing very bad hair transplants all around the world, the BEST surgeons will be entitled to charge great amounts for their SUPERB quality work. Messi, Cristiano, Beckam, Michael Jordan... had astronomical salaries compared with the rest... all could ask whatever they want. Cristiano is making €200 millions a year, something never seen before... Great doctors will do this too.

Thanks a lot for the info.

I’m looking for a good doctor but I have a budget between 5-10,000, do you recommend someone?

How much was it? I got quoted like 17,000 with beard and chest hair that i apparently need to do my hairline 

How much does pinto charge ? Does anyone know

On 7/8/2022 at 7:16 AM, THE TRUTH said:

I totally understand the fact you are looking for cheaper options. We all try to save money and that's completely fair and normal. 

But in hair transplants you have to understand that the cheaper you go the greater the chances of disaster....

And in this game disasters are irreversible especially if they destroy your donor area while you already have significant baldness. 

The grafts in your donor area are limited. You have to try to get it right from the first time... 

That said, even top surgeons like Ferreira, Hasson & Wong, Mwamba have bad results. Even Couto and Freitas have some average results although very few of course. 

Browse through the forum and you will see. Hair transplants are a gamble. All you can do is minimize as much as possible the risk of failure and maximize chances of sucess by diligently doing your research and chosing a great surgeon. 

Ilker Apaydin is not the worst clinic in Turkey but his "best results"  are average at best, he outsources almost all the work to young technicians with highly questionable training and there were some really bad results published on this forum from Apaydin... Jambopilgrim is one of them...There was another one too.  Trust me, you don't wanna become one of those guys. 

My honest advice is stay away Apaydin. He is zero and doesn't care about you. He will just leave to his techs and they'll most likely botch you. Then you'll have to go to an expensive surgeon for a repair and that'll end up costing you 10 000-12 000 $...... 

Forget about Apaydin. 

Same for Serkan. He's probably somewhat better but still Serkan is a lottery. Read my posts about hairmills. Okay I agree that Serkan has some fantastic results on belicapelli (that are cherry picked by Bola the moderator who has an affiliation with Serkan) and also on some french youtubers who got paid to document their journey at Serkan's clinic and hence were given the very best team of nurses.

Brett Maverick also went to Serkan but in my opinion that is a risky bet. 

Serkan  had some botched jobs and destroyed donors in the past although I gotta say he has improved a lot during the last 3-5 years.  But hey Serky does 20 patients per day and he doesn't give a s*** about your case. He just shakes your hand and draws your hairline. Some of his teams of technicians are great whereas others are crap. It's russian roulette. Literally. Why risk it ? 

Same for Smilehair and ziya yavuz. All Hairmills although not the worst.  

Don't be fooled by the SmileHair doctors. Mehmet Erdogan, Ahmedov etc...I know they look cool, their english is great but this is all marketing. The reality is their clinic is a hairmill. Again, certainly not the worst but you never know what kind of results you'll get and who will operate on you. Could just be a tech performing his very first surgery...

Now of course there is this thing that "sometimes hairmills hit homeruns". 

Sure that happens too. I agree. 

If you are lucky, if you get the right team of nurses, if you have great donor charactetistics IF IF IF (probably around 10 out of 100 cases)  you could potentially get a fantastic result for just 3000$. Yes it does happen sometimes with Cinik, Cosmedica, Serkan, Hair of Istanbul.. 

But what happens if you get botched ? Your donor supply gets destroyed forever while the grafts on the recipient area do not grow back at all ?....What you gonna do ? 

And if you "just shave it bruh" your donor area will have thousands of white little scars showing you had FUE...

Think about it twice. 

Stay away from Aypaydin. He is crap. 

Try to save up for a decent surgeon. 

Bicer, FUECAPILAR and Demirsoy are the only decent options in Turkey. 

I had a consultation with Dr bisanga and he seemed very professional. Not sure if i want to spend $25,000. What would be another doctor you would recommend for between 10,000-$15,000? Any help would be appreciated 👍

On 1/13/2023 at 10:40 AM, ItIsTime said:

Hi everyone, I'm getting set for Dr Bisanga in March for my FUE procedure 3200 - 3500 grafts

I wanted to ask, especially for those who have actually gone to Dr Bisanga before any tips for the trip and how to make the time as easy / comfortable as possible.

This will be my first HT, first time in Belgium, traveling from the US to Belgium. I have a two day procedure on the 23/24th

Things I'm considering:

- Where to stay for a comfortable experience pre and post Sx

- Uber vs taxi (i've seen some posts someone said they were unable to get a taxi post procedure late in the evening)

- Food?

- Anything post transplant I should consider bringing with me (sleeping pillow, aloe vera)

- Anything someone wishes they knew to do before going to Belgium / Dr Bisanga to be better prepared for the procedure

If anyone is going to be there around the same time and want to grab a drink let me know!

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to post everything in the thread

Thanks again everyone and happy growing!

Wish I could afford him, I got quoted 23,000 for 4,700 grafts. He seems like he does good work

On 1/13/2023 at 10:40 AM, ItIsTime said:

Hi everyone, I'm getting set for Dr Bisanga in March for my FUE procedure 3200 - 3500 grafts

I wanted to ask, especially for those who have actually gone to Dr Bisanga before any tips for the trip and how to make the time as easy / comfortable as possible.

This will be my first HT, first time in Belgium, traveling from the US to Belgium. I have a two day procedure on the 23/24th

Things I'm considering:

- Where to stay for a comfortable experience pre and post Sx

- Uber vs taxi (i've seen some posts someone said they were unable to get a taxi post procedure late in the evening)

- Food?

- Anything post transplant I should consider bringing with me (sleeping pillow, aloe vera)

- Anything someone wishes they knew to do before going to Belgium / Dr Bisanga to be better prepared for the procedure

If anyone is going to be there around the same time and want to grab a drink let me know!

Feel free to DM me if you don't want to post everything in the thread

Thanks again everyone and happy growing!

Wish I could afford him, I got quoted 23,000 for 4,700 grafts. He seems like he does good work

On 1/10/2023 at 12:16 AM, HimDuncan said:

@Tybwl5 Please tell me, how did you get a consultation in Maryland? I am in the region and desperately need a consult 😭 

You just go to the website and sign up for a consultation. I wish he wasn't so expensive but it prolly will be done right

On 3/14/2022 at 11:42 AM, MachoVato said:

This exact question pops up every couple weeks or so. You might get some value by searching the forum. 

That said... my opinion is to avoid all of these clinics. Turkey is full of cheap places and the results reflect that. We all want to save money, but a poor transplant is worse than not having a transplant at all. 

Welcome! Do yourself a favor and start going through threads from real patients, you'll learn a lot I'm sure!

I've seen a couple decent results from smile hair clinic on TikTok. They didn't do a bad job.

18 hours ago, spiral said:

I'm getting my HT in Istanbul and will be staying there for a week before flying back. 

Is there anything I can pack that will improve my quality of life while recovering?

1. Sleep - should I bring a neck pillow for upright sleeping first few days?

2. Rain - how damaging could rain be, should I bring an umbrella just in case?

Anything else?

What doctor did you choose?

I had a consultation with Dr bisanga in Maryland. He said I needed 4,500 grafts but he would take hair from my beard and chest to make it work. It was also a hefty price, 12,000 for 2,000 grafts and another 13,000 for 2,500 extracted from bear and chest. The consultation lasted only 5 minutes. He seemed nice and professional. I just don't have that type of money now, ive seen some good results from eugenix in India, might check that out.

43 minutes ago, general-etwan said:

3 months, harsh lighting lol, very happy with the way it's feeling though:

 

How much was it for the cost? And where did you contact them at? Through WhatsApp?

On 12/4/2022 at 9:04 AM, garcimore75 said:

DAY 8 

ALL SCABS REMOVED

Yesterday, I went to my first head wash on day 7 where I got almost 90% of my scabs removed + I came today as well and I got the rest of my scabs removed. 

The feeling on the scalp is weird since the hair transplant was done last week, but it was to be expected. When I had my ACL done it took times to get all sensations back. They told me it could take 3 to 4 weeks to get it back (sometimes less, sometime more). Also the new transplanted hair right now feels like a 3 day beard when I touch them, but it is already better than yesterday, so I guess the more shampoo I will have, the more It will get soft. 

I am so thrilled with the results for now, I am gonna enjoy those brand new hair before they start shedding haha . We will see those hair back in 3 to 6 month anyway, they also deserve some vacation after what they have been through.

Here are the pictures, ITS A LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE FOR ME 

How much did it cost?

2 hours ago, BaldingEagle1 said:

I know it’s only been 12 days post op, but my goodness did not expect it to look this good this fast. 
 

the hairs will come out within a few weeks and then the ugly duck phase will hit but man, im so happy with choosing Eugenix!

 

How much was your transplant?

On 11/3/2022 at 8:23 PM, BurnieBurns said:

OP I understand people have limited budgets, and please understand I'm criticising your process rather than you personally.

BUT for the love of god, no one should ever be asking: 'What clinic should I go to in Turkey?'. 

Budgets aside it's crazy to limit yourself to one location. It's even CRAZIER if that one location is a place there 99% of HT clinics have a high chance of butchering, over-harvesting and leaving you with a horrifically unnatural hairline, and that's IF you're lucky enough for it to grow. These places routinely do rushed 5000 graft FUE's by untrained staff, ALL in a way to maximise profit against your best interests. How do they keep getting people? Advertising and Social media that's convince all these victims that Turkey is 'The best place to go'. PLEASE don't be one of those victims

COST and LOCATION are the two LAST aspects your need to focus on before finalising your choice.

Yes, there are a couple of skilled, ethical surgeons in Turkey, but if you end up going with them, it should NOT be BECAUSE they're in Turkey!

As @Gatsby mentioned above, do you your research and save up. You need to have have ZERO doubts in left in your mind before you finalise your choice. Ideally, you'd do this for at least a year.

It's also critical learn about treatment to prevent continued loss. From your pictures, you're on track to be at least a Norwood 6. This is advanced level of Baldness, 

Even with treatment, there's no guarantees you'll stop your hair loss for life. Only an ethical and skilled HT surgeon will provide a sensible, and balanced recommendation.

These surgeons are small minority sadly, and the sooner you know this the better.

I'm passionate about this because I've been a victim before, however I'm SO thankful it was only a small procedure. This gave me a second chance to go the right way,

Yesterday I had my repair surgery with an elite surgeon who mentioned the number of consultations he's had with people overharvested from Hairmills (not only in Turkey), who have broken down in tears from hearing the bitter reality that they cannot be fixed. It's terribly sad this has become the epidemic it has but please don't be one of them.

Ignore the advertising / Hype / Testimonials. Do this the smart way and your future self will thank you.

Who is the elite surgeon if I may ask?

On 11/24/2022 at 4:21 PM, Swoodsy91 said:

Hi all

A bit late on my update. Im 6 weeks post HT today. Fair to say my hair isn’t looking great right now. Im either more of a diffuse thinner than i thought or i’ve had a pretty hefty shed and some shock loss. I’d probably say its a mix of all three. Ive definitely had some shock loss right at the front centre.

I did start oral fin 1mg EOD/2.5mg oral min every day after my HT so a shed is very likely I’d say. Previously I was applying topical fin/min. I’ve not experienced any sides yet which is good. I am almost waiting for oral min sides which i experienced previously but so far all good.

I’m not too worried about current status. I had already prepared myself for my hair to look pretty sh*t for at least 3 months anyway. Apart from the hairloss, everything else seems ok. Ive had a haircut on the back and sides at a grade one, that was fine. You can’t really tell at all from the donor that I’ve had a HT.

 

 

 

On 10/25/2022 at 5:55 PM, Swoodsy91 said:

Thanks! It was €3.50 per graft

Did you pay for it all at once or did you use a credit card? If so do you recommend one?

On 11/1/2022 at 9:44 AM, follically challenged said:

So refreshing for a doctor to show 'fine-haired' patients that are actually..fine..haired...patients. 

And this is why I will be visiting Bisanga in a few months. 

Keep up the good work!

When will you be visiting him? I have a appointment with him in August, that's the soonest 

On 8/31/2022 at 4:33 AM, Mark Powell said:

You can check for ASMED in Turkey If you want to pay 5-10 thousand but If you want to pay less you can check Pure Line Clinic,Istanbul

Is pure line clinic in Istanbul any good?

On 8/29/2022 at 5:49 PM, Savemyhairline said:

I certainly did not personally believe that Dr. Bisanga made any recommendations based on level of difficulty. I respect his opinion and hold it to a very high regard. I did send all the pictures he took to another elite surgeon just to get a second opinion. That of course is nothing personal as I like to get multiple opinions on anything. I am still not 100% convinced on the oral minoxidil but that is okay. I am thinking that it may be best to just continue what I am doing and then reassess in 3-4 years when I’m 30. 
 

thank you,

May I ask who the other elite doctor is?

On 8/18/2022 at 8:16 AM, Mark Powell said:

What's your budget? It is important

My budget is between 5-10 thousand. I'm really worried about the hairline and top of my hair, I would be it to realistic and not a hair plug type look 

On 8/18/2022 at 8:17 AM, Mark Powell said:

Why avoid!? Wrong look,you have to be careful to choose a clinic in Turkey but not Avoid!

 Dr. Bisanga but I'm looking at Dr gur as well in turkey. I prefer Dr bisanga but he's extremely booked. I don't see many results from Dr gur so I'm just not sure.

6 minutes ago, Adil Jemil said:

What ur hairloss condition bro norwood scale?

5, just want to do my hairline and a little on top since I'm only 30. Im the same though, I don't feel like I can justify spending 20,000 on a transplant and then theirs no guarantee it turns out good either