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  1. On 8/10/2022 at 2:43 PM, sunsurfhair said:

    Don’t stress #1 is the most important thing. Work out 4-5x a week with good resistance/weight training, eat lots of healthy clean proteins, and try to keep stress (cortisol) down. Ask your prescribing doctor about reducing your Finasteride dosing strategy as an option. If you do all that and are still having issues, ask your provider to check your labs with attention to key hormones. 

    This site has an extensive panel for Finasteride labs, which I actually thought was really pretty thorough. It’s a bunch, but considering you’re on the med and having low libido at 26, it would make sense to have them check if you can’t get it in check w the basic suggestions listed above. Considering you’re not having other issues, I think you will be OK my friend!

    The Comprehensive Pre-Finasteride Hormone Panel includes the following tests:

    • Testosterone, Free + Total, LC/MS
    • Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy
    • IGF-1
    • Prolactin
    • Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
    • Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
    • Thyroglobulin Antibody
    • Hemoglobin A1C
    • Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
    • NMR LipoProfile + Lipids + IR + Gph
    • DHEA Sulfate (DHEA-S)
    • Ferritin
    • Reverse T3, Serum
    • Pregnenolone, MS
    • Testosterone Free, MS/Dialysis
    • DHT, Free, LCMS/Dialysis
    • CBC with Differential/Platelet
    • Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
    • Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG)
    • Estradiol, Sensitive 
    • Progesterone
    • Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA)
    • TgAb + Thyroglobulin, IMA or LCMS
    • Cortisol
    • Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct
    • Iron and TIBC
    • Dihydrotestosterone
    • Triiodothyronine (T3), Free

    You copied this from more plates more dates 

  2. 6 minutes ago, De Freitas Clinic said:

    Patient’s details:

    Sex: Male

    Age: 32 years old

    Level of alopecia: NW II

    💇‍♂️ Hair characteristics: Brown, straight and very thin hair.

    👨‍⚕️ Surgical Plan: Frontal and receding hairline restoration in 1 day of intervention.

     

    GRAFTS BREAKDOWN

    x1️⃣: 304 Grafts = 304 Hairs

    x2️⃣: 888 Grafts = 1.776 Hairs

    x3️⃣: 599 Grafts = 1.797 Hairs

    x4️⃣: 61 Grafts = 244 Hairs

     

    Total: 1.852 Grafts / 4.121 Hairs

    Average: 2,22 hairs per graft.

     

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    3 Months later

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    12 Months later

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    Comparatives

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    We are at your disposal to answer any question. Best regards!

    How much lower was the hairline put ? 

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  3. On 7/28/2022 at 11:39 PM, Testaccount9900 said:

    Just want to make this clear for anyone interested in OM. Unlike topical it is dosage dependent, the more you take the more minoxidil metabolite you get, because your liver has enough of the enyzme, 2ndly you will get bloating/water retention on any dosage/low/high if you have a bad diet and you eat high salt foods consistently, and drink little to no water, ALONGSIDE being overweight.

    Oral Min is for people who can keep track of their salt/water intake, aswell as maintain a healthy life style, take it from someone who is on 10mg of oral minoxidil, with 0 bloat, 0 water retention, the only time I have ever encountered retention on the drug is when I pigged out and had 2 pizzas and a full night of drinking with friends, which is out of the norm for my strict gymsqe life style

    bro I think most people who have 2 pizzas and a full night of drinking will have some retention lol. How your experience been with it, in terms of hair results? 

  4. 18 minutes ago, New_Barnet_Please said:

    You are giving advice out, but then state that you're taking double what doctors prescribe of the drug for hair loss (5mg)? This could be a factor why you have had so much body hair growth. 

    Yes anything more than 5mg is too much for hair loss and going into the territory of treating hypertension. 

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  5. On 8/10/2022 at 1:33 PM, SeanToman said:

    Hi, is there long term side effects from loss of libido?

    I go to the gym twice a week, don't eat meat & I'm 26. :)

    I cant say most ,who stop it returns ,  but at 26 you should be tripping balls  and thinking of sex all the time. I would check your hormones to see how your test and estrogeon is at 

     

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  6. 12 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

    I haven’t started on the topical because I’m having a child, and the transmission can occur through pillows since it’s a topical. DHT is essential in the development of a male fetus. Dr. Hasson advised against it. As soon as my baby is born, I’m gonna document my journey here and on YouTube, as well as check my serum DHT before and after. 

    You’re free to believe whatever you want. People recommend surgeons all the time without going to them, the fact that I haven’t used the product yet, doesn’t mean I haven’t done my research. I’m not trying to push for anything. Do your own research.

    I’ve always maintained taking drugs is a personal choice. For me, personally, I see no reason to risk the oral when topical is as effective, possibly more effective. This is my personal opinion, and everyone is free to agree or disagree.

    Fair enough I wasn’t privy to that info so that’s understandable  and congrats on the baby. Out of curiosity have you tried oral minoxidil as I had a consultation with bisanga and he is going to prescribe it to me.

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  7. 7 hours ago, SeanToman said:

    It still *works* down there, but I just have no interest.
    As of right now it doesn't really bother me.  But if I want change, people recommend taking it every other day rather than every day.

    No interest. You need to stop the drug . Check you hormones asap , I’m all for the drug but if your getting these effects I would get hormonal markers done . Also do you workout as in resistance training and healthy diet and how old are you

  8. 2 hours ago, yesplease said:

    Have you tried topical, Melvin? Or any intention to? 

    Yeh lol he always talking about xyon being  great and using topical , but doesn’t even use it himself . I’m sure he could of started xyon now as others have been on it for a while . You can’t really justify something if you personally can’t account for it given the limited information we have on topical 

  9. 16 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

    You can keep telling yourself that but it doesn't make it true. I'm not saying you are going to castrate yourself, but lowering DHT is not ideal. I know you already know this because you've said as much, and have found keeping your hair more important. That's fine and I respect your bodily autonomy to do as you wish. 

     

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2549675/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7308241/

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13685530400016672

    Yeh I know that , I don’t want to reduce dht but I don’t get sexual side effects so I’m fine , and get bloodwork . What do you know about it’s effects on neurosteroids, that’s something that isn’t clear in the research 

  10. 12 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

    Says the guy lowering one of the main hormones that LITERALLY makes you a man.... 

    yeh but that before  you become an adult , dht is not needed for male development after that . Next your going to tell me when you say dht three times in the mirror , the candy man going to come for you . 

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  11. 57 minutes ago, mister_25 said:

    Insecurity breeds negativity. Most people that made negative remarks about my hair loss have serious issues that they themselves need to work on.

    I also had comments about my hair loss but was fortunate it was not in a work place. I've had it in various other situations where its also inappropriate although making fun of someone's hair loss shouldn't be acceptable to begin with.

    People like to think that times are changing and people don't care about your looks, but from my experience a large portion of people that I interacted with are shallow and they treated me different when I started to lose my hair. Maybe its my age demographic.

    Social media has corrupted people with regards to appearance in particular women. Now a days it’s rare to find a woman that is natural looking , they’re all looking like walking filters , up to their eyes with fillers and Botox . 

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  12. 55 minutes ago, Carl Counts said:

    Years ago a female co-worker was constantly making fun of my hair loss. One day after weeks of hair loss insults I insulted her back making fun of her weight. Needless to say it did not go over well. She immediately reported me to supervisors. I spent the next 2 weeks going to meeting and signing write ups. Anyone else have similar experience at work?

    She’s basically chucking her insecurities on to you . Common thing people with insecurities do is they insult other people to try and make themselves feel better about themselves . How sad , next time drop a weight watchers leaflet on her desk 

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  13. 8 minutes ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

     

    totally baloneey is to  be super anixious and worried about side effects but at the same time to expect to get automatically good result when you are norwood 5 and more...good norwood 5 results exist but its far from the norm, the chances of having a unsatisfying hairtransplant result at that norwood stage are definitely higher then the chances of getting pfs etc.

    totally distorted view of risks imho. if you are very worried about things going wrong you should stay away from finasteride but also definitely stay away from hairtransplants (if you are destinied to end at norwood 5 and over)...shaving or hairpieces are totally safe

    People don’t factor in the variables, the biggest one is that a hair transplant Turning out well is far from certain even from the best as we’ve seen on this forum. So you might not even have enough grafts to repair or even fill the spots if it doesn’t work out well in the first place . Why retaining as much native hair as possible is essential to minimise the grafts you need which is finite . Also you cannot predict hair loss , you might have gradual then suddenly it just becomes aggressive . Being on meds while I don’t want to , I have to if want to retain a good set of hair . I’m even going to jump on oral minxodil because studies have show it to be effective as 1mg fin , so hoping combining the two will even help potential safeguard or even regrow more hair 

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  14. 1 minute ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

    Read this out loud to yourself. "A lot of them are not related to finasteride, just low DHT!!!". What is it that you think Fin.Dut is doing? Also just because a study looks at DHT in conjunction with T doesn't mean it's not also looking at DHT....

    Here are some more for you:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5085223/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15472231/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9665502/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17931384/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24764121/

     You alright man, you seem a  bit unhinged reposting these studies once again . Yeh but finasteride increases testosterone contradicting these studies that blame low t and low dht , making  your reasoning obsolete . And btw I had a look at this Kevin Mann you talked about and he’s right tbh if men took this drug  earlier and not been scared like myself , we wouldn’t even be on this forum likely . You need to curb your fetish with dht , it’s getting weird now .

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  15. 19 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

    You're missing the point. DHT is a key hormone. Intentionally reducing it is not a good idea.

    Now loo,k it's your life do what you want with it. If you decide the hair is more important that's fine. But reducing DHT in and of itself is a bad idea whether or not you experience noticeable sides. 

    You said you were going to stop responding to me lol , yet your always responding . Yeh Vast majority of men take fin and function fine lol, Donald trump took it for decades and ended up the president of the USA  lool

  16. 41 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

    Yes, dud studies.... Yes, warning for posting peer review studies. You sound unhinged mate. 

    If I posted doubles it's only because it gets tiring copy and pasting links so many times. Like I said I have another 10-20 I could post if you'd like? 

    Please also explain how they are "duds" 

    Because a lot of them are not related to finasteride but the effects of low dht and testosterone. 

  17. 16 minutes ago, Z-- said:

    ^ There’s debate about donor thinning, buts it’s pretty established that it’s significantly more DHT resistant than the rest of the scalp. Point two is that even with drugs, nothing blocks DHT 100%, so you’re going to thin in the donor over time (if the donor thins). Many ethical doctors don’t require finasteride to operate, which is quite telling.

    Either way, by the time the donor thins — with or without medication —  you’re likely to be quite old. For a clear example, even  Norwood 6 relatives in their 80s-90s had a robust donors and many balding actors at high Norwood have their donor in-tact. 

    I’d say it’s not worth being on a lifelong drug to possibly preserve a few donor hairs, which (if they do indeed thin) tends to occur at a very late age, but if you think it is, more power to you. 

    Yeh again your not addressing keeping as much native density as possible which is imperative to have a better looking transplant . No one wants to have a transplant a on bald head , that will require like 6k grafts minimum  if that , and most people just about have that as a donor. By keeping as much native hair your adding to the density while at the same time reducing grafts needed ,so they can be banked  for future loss. And yes as you said donor is dht resistant but not dht proof it’s why I see alot of people ,not all all with thin looking sides and napes in particular . Unless your a norwood 3 or less after I say 40 you might get away with it , otherwise you need to get on meds, or like gatbsy get hair taken from places I never knew was possible 

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