Jay00

I spoke to Dr Mwamba last week. He said they’ll find a new location by next summer. So I think you can just wait if you don’t feel like traveling to Brussels 

1 minute ago, HairRun said:

Interesting, so 800 total + the relocated grafts? 

First session was scheduled for 600 grafts ended using 400 grafts. Next session 200 grafts if we stick to plans. So 600 grafts in total plus relocated grafts.  

On 7/30/2022 at 2:56 PM, HairRun said:

I'm not sure,  @Jay00 were they removed using FUE or strip? If FUE, were the stitched used to maybe push the skin together? 

Sorry guys I was away. Personal issues. 
you’re right, the stitches were used to push the skin together. He didn’t cut my skin. 
 

Next month, we will add hair on the edges just to perfect the hairline. 200 grafts

He removed mine as well

Dr Mwamba just told me, he can do it with 300 grafts. 

7 minutes ago, HappyMan2021 said:

I'm the same way. I got repaired by Mwamba in early June, also at the NJ location. 

I think my HT will be 90% killer result, but am a bit sad bc there seem to be 20 or so badly angled grafts Mwamba for whatever reason could not extract during surgery. 

For all I know this will be a complete non-issue and all the other transplant hairs will camoflage this. 

Or, it will be super annoying, but hoping I can just kill them with electrolysis. 

But yea one of the sh*ttiest things about hair transplants is the timeline - its such a long process. 

I can only speak for my own situation - I personally need to wait 6 months or so until I can tangibly and pragmatically take next steps. I need too see the HT outcome and how it looks with these bad angles before I can take next steps. 

Trust me, I wish I could go to a electrolysis place today and zap the bad grafts off. 

But that would really be unwise of me and in haste. Sucks but I need to see the HT result overall and holistically. 

Yours seem to be an easy fix. You won’t have to extra no more grafts. Quick question thought, how many grafts were used for your HT (all HTs combined). 

23 hours ago, HairRun said:

I am wondering if  Verteporfin could have helped here 

Oh for the redness. Yeah I will give a try 

23 hours ago, HairRun said:

I am wondering if  Verteporfin could have helped here 

What is that ?

Lol I know you guys already told me to stop thinking about hair but I can’t help it. Overall Dr Mwamba has done a good job, I will need to cover those areas next. This will take about 1k graft for full density? 

15 minutes ago, SimpleLife said:

More density later on is still possible if the healing doesnt turn out the way you want it. Its not like you made a major mistake

You have options bro, you're good. It's only a small area and the donor is not overharvested at all

What I would do is wait 4-6 weeks and focus on anything that is not hair related. After that re-asses and make a plan. Going through a repair surgery can be an emotional rollercoaster, so I dont think its wise to explore options at this stage..

Thank you bro. I needed those words. Lol I’m in the house going to the mirror every second. But I understand it’s a process, if I ever decide to do something it would be some minor work. The hardest part is already taken care of, the rest should be easy. I’ll definitely wait and see. 

3 minutes ago, SimpleLife said:

dr Mwamba told me it takes roughly 1 month for the skin to heal after graft removal, so it will most likely improve. 

But I dont see much scarring? Only some discoloration which could be from the initial transplant..

Its been only a week, so the gel will hopefully help, try to not think about it for a while. 

Btw I know some members here used a V beam laser to address discoloration, dont know much about it, but you might want to look into it

Yea bro I’m trying hard not to think about it lol I thought removing the implant would have given me peace of mind. It’s definitely too early, but Now I’m just thinking I should have just added more density instead of removing since I have a lot of donor grafts. 
the repair is already looking good. I’m thinking about the next move to make here. You think I’m fine the way it is, or I can some work 

3 minutes ago, RTC said:

you are in a great position bro, plenty of grafts for later

if i grow my donor its almost undetectable, but I like having my hair shorter

if the beard grafts grow in my donor will look very decent

I see. So u also repaired the donor area. Lol I was afraid of being overharvested that’s why I didn’t fill in the gap. But I will certainly go back and add more

7 minutes ago, RTC said:

according to asli whorejan, 5k, then plus 1.3k from mwamba

so my donor is tapped out lol

Wow and your donor area looks fine, you can grow it out of you want to?
 I guess I’m fine then lol only used 2k all combined so far. Willing to sacrifice another 1k 

42 minutes ago, RTC said:

I think if you're removing grafts, you should definitely get some new ones put in to refine the area. I personally am not doing that as I didn't have that many removed, but maybe down the road I will

Only God knows bro, be diligent with the silicone gel, stay hydrated and just live healthy.

How many grafts have you used so far? All surgeries combined

It’s too early to tell anyways. It will probably look completely different in 6 months. 
so far, I’ve only used about 2k grafts. I believe I still got more donor hair to use. Maybe another 1k grafts or less will fill it in. 

17 minutes ago, RTC said:

you can defo fill in the gaps later, isn't that the plan anyway?

Use the gel, I'm sure it will look good. and if you implant hairs on it than in itself will camouflage any skin issues

I wasn’t planning doing any work later, but if I end up not liking it then I will have to. how long do people usually wait before implanting hair. 
 

yea I’m using the Gel. You think the scars will completely disappear?

One week post removal. I’m having mix feelings. I should have just filled the gap instead of removing. lol I don’t like the look 

you guys think the hairline scars will somehow disappear in the fiture?

since I have more donor hair, it’s possible to still fix hairline later when it heals ? 
 

11 hours ago, ITA said:

Damn, the pics with the stitches are impressive, so your procedure consisted of extracting the 600 grafts in harline and repositioning them in the middle scalp?  Will you have to return in 10/12 months to rebuild the hairline?  Good recovery anyway, you have relied on an excellent surgeon in the repairs.

The middle scalp is fine. Lol maybe Because I didn’t wash my head in the past days it looks weird. No work was done there 
- we basically pushed the hairline back closer to my real hair. He also fixed the angles of previous HT

thank you bro for the well wishes. Hopefully this goes well 🙏

11 hours ago, BaldV said:

Hey Jay just a couple of questions

1. How many grafts did you eventually remove? 600?

2. Did you get any kind of postoperative care like silicon gel or steroid cream for the area?

 

Also I see that you are black and I am thinking that SMP would be a very good solution for you, do you consider it?

1. He removed 150 grafts from the hairline and reconstructed it, also fixed the angles of the previous HT. 400 grafts were taken from my donor area to add density.  
 

2. Yes he gave me Recedo Topical Gel, I start using this tomorrow. 
 

and last, I don’t think SMP is an option right now, I have curly hair which can get long depends how I style it. The problem was my hairline my hairline. 

45 minutes ago, HAIRLOSS IS MY LIFE said:

Bro who botched you for your 1st surgery ? 

Yeah Dr Zeiring. They gave me full refund though

I’m still waiting for the photos taken by Dr Mwamba pre HT and after HT. In the meantime, we removed the stitches yesterday and took some pictures. 
first 2 pictures - with stitches

last 2 pictures - after removal. 
HT date: Sunday July 17th

2 hours ago, HairRun said:

This is of great interest to me as someone seeking a repair. A lot of detail must have went it because 12 hours sounds like a long time for 600. Was it because they were relocating grafts from the hairline? 

Yes they had to removed old grafts and place them correctly. We took a few breaks. They take their time when it comes to implanting the graft, they are very careful with the angles 

Sorry I couldn’t post yesterday, as some of you may know, I had a bad transplant and was looking for a doctor to repair it. I decided to go with dr Mwamba after consultation. the surgery took all day. Got there at 8:30 am and finished around 10 pm in new jersey. Got to go back there in 2-3 days to remove the stitches. Head was swollen yesterday and I’m currently waiting for the pictures (will post pictures and more details as soon as I get them, by Tomorrow Tuesday). Will post the pictures pre HT and after. Overall, I had a very good experience, Dr Mwamba worked on my surgery and his assistant lady was helping him. Seem to be very knowledgeable about HT. I am very happy with my choice, I hope this yield great growth (prayers). 

also we didn’t “repair” my donor area. This area is growing hair now so I guess it wasn’t overharvested.

In comparison to my first HT experience, there no comparison! Dr Mwamba is a professional. 

5 hours ago, Aslitarcan sucks said:

Hi everyone, 

 

At the end of June 2022 I had a hair transplant with Dr Patrick Mwamba in Brussels to repair a pluggy hairline, sparse frontal zone and botched donor area (at the hands of the famous hair mill botch job kings, Asli Tarcan).

 

Just to recap, in 2018 Asli Tarcan gave me an awful hairline with single grafts in the front in the hairline. It is very pluggy and contains numerous multiple grafts (sorry for the huge pictures).

 

 

The corners of the front of my head also look particularly awful, there are two big circles where hair should be.

 

I have attached photos taken very recently, almost 4 years after Asli Tarcan, very patchy frontal corners.

 

Also see the extremely bad donor area, particularly on the right side.

 

 

Goals of the surgery:

 

1) Repair the awful density of the frontal hairline and hair behind it, particularly on the corners.

 

2) Donor re-stocking using beard hair and carefully depleting the rest of the donor so as to homogenise the look all over.

 

3) Rebuild the temples (I didn't start thinking about this until I saw @NARMAK thread). But I thought, why not, If we have the chance, let's do it.

 

Graft breakdown: 

 

Scalp - 1360

BHT - 765

 

Medication:

 

Topical dutasteride 0.01% with dermarolling once a week. Prior to the surgery, I had noticed visible strengthening of my temples after doing this for around two months. this was confirmed by the photos that were taken two months earlier when I first visited Dr Mwamba for a consultation.

 

However, I will now bump up to 0.05% dutasteride with dermarolling to improve my crown, which still needs work.

 

1st day:

 

The pre-surgery consult with Dr Mwamba was extremely thorough. I came in with a list of questions/concerns/suggestions, and we really took our time.

 

He was able to answer everything and we discussed the strategy for the hairline in particular depth. He manually examined the hair and then used the pro-scope magnification device to look at my hair and plan out the extractions and inserts etc. He shaved my head and spent about an hour drawing the hairline and marking out the zones for grafts to go in and out. Then we took lots of photos.

 

I would estimate that in all, this took about 2 hours. The man is a perfectionist.

 

The first order of the day was to remove the garbage grafts sitting in the corners of my head and above the temples. Random, pointless grafts that had no reason being there. Dr Mwamba removed them, stitched them up, and they were later placed in the corner areas of the front (see below). Those had bothered me for years, so it was a huge relief to finally see them gone.

 

 

 

We wrapped up very late, 12.30am, and I was able to home and get some rest for the next day.

 

2nd day:

 

This is where all the major hairline work and donor re-stocking would happen.

 

Head wash and then had extractions from my scalp donor area by the excellent Dr Ali and technicians under Dr Mwamba's direction.

 

Note: Mwamba has a very strong team of Doctors and techs - they will all work on you some point most likely, but obviously Mwamba does the super important parts like incisions and placing hairs in delicate areas such as temples and hairlines. And he is always overseeing things.

 

Dr Mwamba made the slits in my front hairline and temples, then he started implanting there while Dr Ali harvested my beard for grafts. This was very uncomfortable as we were going for 5-6 hours straight (Superman 2 was on loop while this was happening, I watched it three times). Him and his team are very very hard workers. Tremendous work ethic.

 

Finally, with the temples and hairline done, it was time for 'FIT farming' - planting beard grafts into my decimated donor area. Beard grafts were also implanted into some areas on my scalp where hair had just been extracted. Dr Ali took the lead here (again with Dr Mwamba's direction).

 

We finished very late that day - would you believe that I went in at 11am and walked out at 6.30am? No joke. Luckily, I was only staying 5 minutes walk around the corner. 

 

This was a very draining day and I couldn't wait for it to be over. The clinic was short-staffed the day before due to airline problems, so this had an impact into the next day. 

 

Another patient was also being treated on the same day (shout out to @SteveUrkel02 lol). The important thing to note here is that Dr Mwamba was still heavily involved and attentive throughout the process, but things just took longer.

 

Everybody was super professional and in good spirits while getting the job done, they all really put a graft in (no pun intended). Dr Mwamba was singing along to Michael Jackson and Congolese music as we got through the last few hours. He even went back and added more grafts behind my hairline to give it more density. He truly is a perfectionist.

 

The next day I went back for head-washing, light therapy, and checking of the grafts.

 

On my final day (2 days after the second day of the op), I met with Mwamba to remove the stitches from where he punched out the excess grafts on my hairline. He recommended a silicone gel and also checked that I didn't lose any grafts on the back of my head (as i was concerned that I may have put too much pressure it while sleeping). He also did a de-brief with me, showing me the implanted grafts via the proscope. 

 

 

 

Overall, what can I say? I am very, very happy with the work that was done on me, and if all goes well, God willing, it should be a (very) good result.

 

But I do want to manage my expectations because I know things can happen. Infections, poor growth, etc. And it will never look 100% perfect. But if I get even 75% improvement on my Asli Tarcan botch-job I will be very happy.

 

I'm so happy I went to Dr Mwamba. There are many doctors who would not have taken on this type of repair job, and if they did, may have suggested 2 or even 3 sessions. For me, 4 years has been long enough to wait.

 

I'd advise anyone travelling to stay at least 2 days after their procedure just for peace of mind - it's always good to go back and get your head washed and be able to consult with the Doctor in person. I would also recommend staying super close the to the clinic. You don't want to have to mess around travelling home after a long day of surgery. 

 

The quality of the work is NIGHT and DAY compared to Asli Tarcan or other shoddy hair mills - it is super refined, clean, and precise. 

 

I'm sure there'll be lots of questions so please fire away - remember a botch job is not the end and in many cases they can be fixed. I hope this will encourage more people to consult with Dr Mwamba - there are at least 3 people who've had recent repair ops with him and all talk about him glowingly, but nobody seems to be posting their journey, so here we go.

 

I'd like to thank everybody on this forum who gave me advice on where to go when I first posted here, because without this forum I probably would have stayed static thinking about my hair forever without ever taking any action to fix it. Cheers

 

 

 

Well written and encouraging. My surgery with Dr Mwamba is in 2 weeks, I truly can’t wait. 2 years of isolation and depression, This has been the toughest time of my life so I can only imagine how you were able to live with this for 4 years. 
 

congrats bro. Good luck on your journey! 

42 minutes ago, mustang said:

Dude, guy is been around for 25 years ...

You have 20 results here: https://www.fueclinic.com/results/

Here is a Afro result (FUT though) : 

You also have 4 patients now that have shared pics on here this year

Actually 5 but one was not a great case although not Mwamba's fault imho

But sure, my review and everyone else is FAKE. Be careful!! 

 

Indeed Dr Mwamba is very skillful, the problem I am very paranoid and have ptsd from my previous HT. I am nervous surgery date is approaching. I’m mainly focusing on FUE removal so I’m guessing that should be an easy task for Dr Mwamba