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HLC is a hair mill now, ruined my scarce donor and not for a great yield. Stay away, much better Docs to choose from. 

Grafts per Cm2 

Happy Growing. Best of luck to you 

Congrats, just WOW

Yes, 0.1 is a good starting point if any. 

One thing has nothing to do with the other, If you are deficient in your main hormone as a male and you are simply replacing that deficiency you should not discontinue your therapy because of a perceived cosmetic benefit ( Which I do not think is true, putting you body in a stressed low T status could definitely be more detrimental to your health and hair). 

Getting dialed in on TRT is hard enough for a lot of people and if you happen to do so and got symptom resolution I think you should count yourself lucky and not mess with your hormonal system any further. 

What is you Free T, SHBG and E2? 

Looks Good . Good luck and Happy Growing .

De Freitas by a mile. The results are much better than Bicer. And in general I would avoid Turkey. 

I would stay away from HLC. They did not do a good job on me and multiple other people on this forum. They are a semi  Turkish Hair mill now. It is like factory assembly process. Your donor would get scarred and you may not get that good of a yield in terms of regrowth (like my case and many others). 

Making a YouTube video, Reddit thread... And whatever you can would help future would-be victims of these unetichal, conman Drs. Like Umar. Shame of the world on him. He owes you more than a refund. 

I think you should consult with an attorney and possibly try to contact his other failed patients (Maybe a Class Action) . This is unacceptable, Umar seems to be a conman , there is a pattern here. This is so unetichal, he should not be getting away with this. 

Are you on any medication? 

Who have you had you transplant done with? 

Thank you 

Hi, I m 2 days post surgery. If you scratch a graft and blood comes out it is definitely lost. Yes? 

On 9/1/2023 at 9:11 AM, Melvin- Moderator said:

While I can understand your frustration. I don’t believe name calling is warranted. HLC has produced some good results. Looks like they’ve missed the mark in managing expectations here. I think it’s natural to question the reason why this may have occurred. Questioning the reason why, isn’t a defense. 

Melvin , I understand your point but the thing is that HLC of 2023 is not HLC of 2015 . They have many unknown Drs doing surgeries left and right (Factory Assembly line) now which may have not been the case a decade ago .They increased their volume so expectedly quality dropped and a lot of us trusted that they are one of the best based on their past results not what they became now. As you know we have very limited donor and limited ability to scar the donor tissue   . In my case , I had both my scalp and immediate high quality post-op pictures analyzed by two surgeons and they confirmed that HLC misrepresented the grafts amount implanted per sq cm . There is no gray area here . In my case I paid 15k USD and others who paid tens of thousands just to get what a Serkan or Emrah would provide them in Istanbul for one tenth of the price on top of their donor scarred . It s a bit painful when people attack us as if we did not do our research and had unreasonable expectations . 

5 hours ago, Drew-83 said:

10 months passed ...I've resigned myself now...  I will hear from the clinic soon and want to understand why I had to spend more than 14k EUR to get to this bad result.

I m exactly like yourself, poor density and grafts survival. These idiots who jump to HLC s defense have no idea. They are most likely HLC employees or affiliates. 

3 hours ago, KSA91 said:

I've seen your post. You were a NW7! Incredibly difficult with any clinic. They should've managed your expectations better perhaps but I don't think it's HLC's fault. There are so many variables that determine whether a hair transplant will be a success or not. You should've chosen clinics that had previous patients who were as close to your case as possible. I've never seen any patient on this forum or social media who went to HLC with a NW7. Your best bet was Eugenix or Zarev. My brother went to HLC in February(6 months in with amazing results) and he told me there were 3 other patients with him and each one of them was assigned a doctor and each doctor had a group of nurses/techs helping them and also the doctors did 80% of the work. In Dr. Bisanga's recent podcast with Melvin, he said he hardly does anything nowadays during surgery! You're just disappointed that your expectations for Norwood 7 weren't met! And you're trying to blame the clinic!

You can only blame yourself for going to Turkey to begin with anyway. 

You seem very aggressive when it comes to defending HLC , only explanation I could think of is that you are affiliated with them . HLC used to advertise their NW7,NW6 cases all the time some years ago (when maybe they were actually good) . Now they just train some average Doctor and put him/her in the operation room . There is no more Ozgur or Akin doing surgeries at HLC , It is a factory assembly line process maybe 10% better than your average Istanbul Hair mill . I was perfectly aware of my situation , expectations beforehand and your assumption is simply false . I have shown immediate post op photos and my scalp to two reputable surgeons and they confirmed that the densities HLC claimed they implanted were absolutely dishonest . HLC claimed they implanted 45-40 grafts but the in reality the actual density was 32-34 . There are many recent disappointments and botch jobs from HLC on this forum , If you would have opened your eyes a bit more you would not have attacked me like that . 

Everything is normal. Happy growing. 

What is the breakdown on how many scalp and body hair was used? 

I know this is not what you asked but I would stay away from Turkey. You have one donor and limited grafts. I would look into Belgium ( Bisagna, Mwamba and Feriduni) or Spain ( De Freitas, Couto...) 

I would choose BHR, I would stay away from HLC. Did the surgery with HLC 16 months ago and I am not happy. Maybe they were good at some point but not anymore. The whole experience was like a  factory assembly thing rather than meticulous surgeons doing their best. Remember you only have limited donor. 

Toppik is what I like. 

Good placement, happy growing. 

Great result, looks awesome. Congrats man. 

Normal scabs, nothing to worry a out my friend. 

5 months is good enough. You can start PRP now with piece of mind.