_Hairman_

Search in the greek forum for hairtransplants, you will find loads of cases of HDC and DHI.

When you are doing a HT, you want to complete it. When you have done the 1st you want to do the second one after 1 year, most people want to complete it thats why the clinics have to do a proper cons. I dont know what i have left. I am sure i have grafts left for a second procedure but many clinics dont do cons and thats bad. So in 1 year grafts will be the same, after ten years ofc there will be losses. And it takes like 30 mins to do that microscope estimate the grafts, and bonus is if they have a program that calculate the grafts.

Who cares what people will say, you wont see them again. I traveled with scrubs not wearing hats and sh1t. Actually its more fun cause some people said you had a HT and we started to talk. Why is people so shy, will you see them again or what. Gl and you will have a great result. Awesome work. 

Did he take 2.5 euro graft?

10 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

There’s a way to post, and being nasty is not one that will be tolerated. This isn’t the comment section of YouTube. Be civil and remember, anyone who sharea here, isn’t being paid. If you’re gonna be a nasty jerk, no one will post their reviews and we all lose. Yes you have been warned, if you want to continue posting here you’ll be civil. 
 

If you have harsh criticisms of the doctor, journey threads are not the place. You can post here: 

 

I dont have anything to say to the doctor, i just said what i saw on this tread.  People have to say what they see, even if its bad or good things. As i said if a saw that people wrote that before i wouldnt say anything in this post. And because i like to say how things are i said to doron about HDC:s cons cause i did my HT there. I like to say things that people maybe dont like so clinics can become better.

Just now, _Hairman_ said:

Really damn i missed that. Otherwise i wouldnt write anything. Well done if people have said that before.

I just saw it now

Just now, JC71 said:

Right we already mentioned the multis earlier in the thread. Infact the OP realised himself. They will continue that anyway regardless of what’s said here on the forum. 

Really damn i missed that. Otherwise i wouldnt write anything. Well done if people have said that before.

2 hours ago, JC71 said:

This is definitely improving nicely, let’s not call this a poor result because its not. .. Multis aside (already discussed) this is absolutely fine for this stage 👌

Did you see anywhere that i said its a poor result? 

I just said that i dont like when they place multigrafts at the hairline, and if we in here dont say anything about it then they will continue doing that. So everything is not good and awesome, someone have to point a finger and tell how it really is.

2 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

I understand this doctor had a bad rep, and for good reason, but I won’t tolerate this sort of behavior. We’re a community that supports others, in the good and the bad, that is why people feel safe sharing their reviews here. You’ve been warned. 

Warned for saying my opinion really? Is it a forum that everyone can say what they think or is it a forum that people only is allowed to say oooohhhh what a good HT you had.

Did i say something bad to him? Can i not share my thoughs? 

And to end this ofc he looks way better than before, but the HT is not well made or done, when you place double grafts in the hairline.

Why are they still placing double grafts in the hairline after so many years. Are they newbees? I bet tecs did your work. Everyone can have grow when they do a HT but to cover the density with double grafts at hairline that just sucks and looks aweful. But you get what you pay for. For me it doesnt look good. And i dont care what people in here says. I never see people critisice HT in here. All looks good for them as far as you have some grow. For me it looks not natural.

19 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

At HDC consultation the clinic usually estimate 70% minimum of grafts of the amount from 1st if there's a need more than 1 surgery, however my repair case was different, the clinic used microscopic scans of my donor on both repair procedures to check the quality of my donor.

For instance if a NW6 paitent will want to have a procedure, HDC will explain if the patient can have more than 1 procedure, the clinic make strategy plan before accepting a paitent.

So if they took 4000 grafts from my donor, how many grafts do you think i have left? I am NW 4-5.

12 hours ago, blackislback said:

@_Hairman_ didn't write about was there necessary or not checking donor area by microscope related to 1st HT, think he thought more like some pre-procedure, that clinic-doctor inform patient about state before HT, and patient can know what number of grafts will leave after 1st HT, and think that approach is ok, as in any surgery area, it's good practice doctors inform patients about all steps, and tell patient situation about important thing like state of donor's area .

Yes, they never told me what kind of donor i have left. Making a good con before the surgery is very important like telling you how many grafts you have availeble and they have to use microscope. It takes some minutes and thats nothing when they will do a surgery for about 16-18 hours. I think its not just HDC doing this i think many clinics dont do proper cons. And i am NW4-NW5 i need to know my donor and what i have left. And the second part is that doron says 2-3cm hairline with single grafts, thats not truth, the hairline is maximum 0.5cm with single grafts. So if they used 500 grafts in my hairline and used the other doubles triples behind and thats about 500 grafts i would have at least 1000 more hairs behind the hairline and you all know what density 1000 more hairs gives. It has nothing to do with natural hairline cause loads of top docs is using the half amount and the counting average or how to call it would be instead of 2.1 way higher.

HDC is awesome man i have done my hairtransplant there aswell, this is just thoughts i have. When i say microscope i mean before the HT so i know how many grafts i have for the future. They never did that and its more people that i know that havent got microscope before the transplant. The tecnicians ofc they use microscope to separate the grafts and so on. My question is why so many single grafts in the hairline? Is Lorenzo, erdogan and so on bad names in the market and many more? Why do the use around 500 single grafts to the hairline. I cant see something unnatural with their HTs. So i can tell you, your 2 cm single grafts fail, A hairline is about 0.5cm not 2 or 3.

If they used 500 double and triple behind that hairline it would be more density and instead of 2.1-2.2 it would be 2.5 or something.

And BTW i am really happy i choosed HDC cause my result is awesome.

But this 2 thoughts i had since start cause i dont know how much donor i have left, but i think i have at least for 1 more HT. 

the cons should be better, it takes about 20 min to use microscope to see the donor and say what i have and everyone else that goes there, when they will do a surgery 2 days 16 hours, then i asked to myself what is 20 mins.

1 hour ago, Doron Harati said:

@_Hairman_HDC use single grafts for the 3cm hairline for natural result, therefore if you notice on my 1st experience with Dr. Maras threads, you can see our doctors doing punch with more density with single grafts which demands a lot of skill to achieve high density compare to double and triple grafts density, in some cases we may offer\consider to put some double grafts over the 3rd upper line cm for more "aggressive" hairline, but not the first 2cm, also not all single grafts are the same, some single grafts at the edge of the donor are thinner compare to other single grafts, the thinner single grafts will be transplanted first and gradually backwards with the thicker ones.

2nd reason HDC choose to do this, is to save double and triple grafts for the middle scalp and crown, especially for crown procedures that recommend to have double and triple grafts for high density.

Unfortunately because I was botched in Turkey, many of my triple grafts were killed for nothing, I see some paitents that for a short period happy with exaggerated double & triples grafts hairline, then after while they realize it's not natural and the biggest problem is when they loose more natural hair at the middle and crown, they don't have enough double and triple grafts to have density proportions compare to the frontal area, I get many complaints about this with paitents that had a procedure by hair mills post 3-4 years result, a good clinic will always make a future strategy for the paitent in my opinion.

HDC do have microscopic scanner for that matter, I myself was diagnosed few times when Dr. Maras wanted to see location and quality of my grafts.

Here is video explanation of why we should save double and triple grafts 

 

I know that the clinic have microscope but they dont use it. The strange thing is that other top doctors is using half amount of single grafts thats why i asked. I can only see HDC using so many single grafts. I can say aswell that the doctors never aim for a single graft, they aim for doubble and tripple and when the transaction is done it might come out as a single graft. So why are this other top doctors, clinics, have the half amount of single grafts? Are they doing instead of 2cm hairline 1cm? Will it not look natural? So that answear i dont belive that they are saving double triple grafts cause they are aiming for that.. But thank for your answear, and good luck. And if you can answear my question do it please, even if you have to ask the doctor. And to get that many single grafts i guess the tecnicians are splitting the double tripple grafts. Thanks

I Want to ask you something.

Can you please tell me why HDC is using so many single grafts for the hairline when all other clinics use the half amount?

Because 500 instead of 1000 is a big diffrence cause 500 double triple grafts behind hairline is like 1000 hairs +++ that is kind of lost and that means density wont look that good or am i wrong?

I have only seen that at HDC using so many single grafts for hairline.

And the fun thing is that the pros in here that is posting in every single tread havent said anything about it, cause they have never noticed it.

And why dont HDC have a proper con? No microscope to see what kind of donor people have so they can plan for the future aswell?

Thanks.

Your problem is the donor area, get it counted, it look weak, over ears and crown getting down alot. You dont have loads of grafts. I would not do a hairtransplant if i was you specially if i dont know how many grafts my donor can give me. From pics noone can tell you how many grafts you have. You have to go to someone that can count your grafts that is available for a ht and then you take it from there.

Dr Anastasakis is good when it comes to fut cause not many drs are doing that anymore. If you want a fut yes, he is doing alot of combo fut fue. 

You will have grown for sure, The problem that ive seen is the density, in some cases the density is good in some they are poor.   Here you can see some results.

Wait 5-10 years until they can clone hair, then you can go for it. Until that happens save your money.

20 hours ago, TorontoMan said:

“You would like to see” not “I want” lol. Of course it’s best if everyone finishes start to end, but no one owes you that 

Yeah my english might not be the best cause i am not from US or UK but i think every1 understand what i mean with this thread. 

20 hours ago, Curious25 said:

Look for patient posted threads on here then, there’s plenty of them around. 

I never said there is not plenty of them but there is loads uncompleted threads aswell. And i really dont want consults to post threads that the clinic choose 1 out of 100 on a perfect transplant. Its better if they dont post that kind of threads. The best thing is real patients in the forum that had a HT that post from start to the end.

12 hours ago, deeznuts said:

Yeah I'd love to see that too but at the end of the day, a lot of people after they get a transplant, stop visiting transplant forums

Well, i mean people that started a post after their HT and never completed it.

The consults are just given the best transplants to post, thats kind of bullshit in my opinion. I would like to follow a transplant from start with all information. Hair thickness, hair type and so on. I would like 2-3 patients a week from the consults from start today to the end after 1 year. Not finish ones that they are saticefied with to post. 

2 hours ago, LaserCaps said:

Hairman, you've hit on a subject that's important not only to the patient, but for the entire industry.  Companies, doctors, consultants, battle with this same issue every day.  Do you know how difficult it is to have a patient post results on line? But we are all human and there has to be an angle to prompt us to do something.  

I agree,  you will only see the "best" from HT outfits. That's why it is important to come to a group such as this one.  People will post and share their experience.  Part of the research.

Once you've chosen the doctor/clinic, call them. Ask if you can talk to a few of the patients they've serviced.  Reputable places will have a list.....This ought to help. 

Lastly, when a bad transplant is involved, patients tend to visit other clinics to find a fix.  Be mindful of this and ask.  Perhaps following this thread will also give you some insight.

I have done a hair transplant, i will start to post my experience when i am at 2 month mark.

3 hours ago, Curious25 said:

Look for patient posted threads on here then, there’s plenty of them around. 

Yeah there is, and many not completed aswell.

18 minutes ago, Newyear newhair said:

Yeah I totally agree, you get all these clinics posting there own threads. Obviously the best ones and some with only minimal work.

I agree, they have the pics in the clinics cause they have follow ups. Why not put them up on patients that started a thread and then stopped it. 

Hi i would like to see the outcome of patients that had a transplant from start to the end. Many people dont complete their posts, why cause of a bad transplant. This is what matters in my opinion and not pictures posted from clinics where they post the best resaults they have got and they just choose what to show.

I would like the consults to complete the threads if possible of patients cause i know they have follow up and send pics to the diffrent clinics.

If i would have a perfect or a good transplant i would show every1, if not maybe i woudnt so i suggest the consults to show pictures of cases that have stopped.

I never trust results cause its simple they choose the best ones maybe they do 100 transplants in a month and they just show us 10 cases, so the success in 10%.

I only trust people that post their process from start to end.

If the consults can update us on cases that is not completed it would be awesome.

Thanks.