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Thanks for the heads up! I'll share the specifics as soon as I'll have met him. Kind regards,

Hi Gasthoerer, Thanks for the great piece of advice! Interresting topic about Germany that is, in particular!

That's great since the temple area alone might need about that! Good to know about the FUT maximising yields.

I got an email from his assistant this afternoon, a first appointment shouldn't be to far now. He might indeed consider sharing that suggestion too 🙂

Hi, Thanks all for your support & advice. I had created another thread more in line with my treatment itself, added the back part there as well.

Hey thanks for sharing. FUT is not the best in my case due to my skin healing slowly and a has high tendency to cause scaring. So far, meeting Dr Bisanga and having him handle the surgery is my goal. A picture of the back; please note the missing hair strand on the lower right bit. That's just my wife trying to help with the covid haircut at home :)

Hi, I've had a few quick assessments through email consultations, I was suggested from 3000 to 4500 grafts in these offers. See a pic of my head below. I made it on purpose to use the worst angle with direct artificial light - I guess it gives a good idea of what I'm headed (pun intended) towards in the years to come. Full baldness of the areas is to be expected and that's not a fairytale to me. Assessment tools like seen hereafter suggest that my situation would require closer to 5000 grafts to just obtain 75% density - this considering full baldness being achieved of course. So if not needed now, the 5k grafts seem a reasonable amount in the years to come. Am I naïve to believe "any" donor area could provide this much grafts? Of course, nothing will replace the specialist's advice, but I'd love some feedback from patients. I also posted a pic of my beard, unshaven for 3 days. I feel like I am on the opposite of a spectrum where "desperados beard" is on the other end. Beard is not my friend as it make me look like an old teenager. The neck part of my beard is particularly boring to shave - so if it can be "scarified" for the greater good of my roof, so be it. Is the picture below any good at giving the slightest clue whether my beard could be used for FUE? Regarding the timeframe... Is it a common practice to work 3 days in a row on a patient's head? I've seen reputable doctors not performing more than 1500 FUE grafts per day. I wondered if there's a healing time recommended between batches, or if it's more an estimate based on a surgeon & team's daily capacity? I see that some doctors have a price "for the first 1000 FUE" then it becomes much cheaper. Since I'm probably going for a local flavor at 5-6eur per graft (for the first batch of 1000), I'm facing quite a budget (I expect 20-25k for a full roof restoration considering the next FUE are 2,5-3,5eur / unit). What about "preemptive strike" vs baldness? Is it a common practice to perform a "preemptive strike", like to preventively restore the area that's still okay-ish? This for both the comfort of not re-shaving plus getting another surgery 2 years later AND also to benefit as much as possible from the "volume discount". Thanks very much for the opinions & experiences! Beard. Any good for BHT? Graft (greffon) estimation given the damage forecast.

I've had the following quotes via Quno: - Smile in Istanbul: Dr. Gökay Bilgin / Dr. Mehmet Erdogan -> 3000-4000 FUE grafts, 2140€ all inclusive, hotel & co. - Perfect Hair in Berlin: up to 3500 grafts, 3600€ all inclusive or 3000 for the care alone. - First Hair Clinic in Frankfurt: up to 4500 grafts, 5950€ non-inclusive of the transport & accommodation. I don't want to embrace the mentality where "cheap is bad and expensive is good", but I'm still puzzled knowing that simple maths make it obviously 3 to 10 times cheaper than say, with Dr Bisanga. My hut feeling is more than mixed about this, so I won't even ask to discuss the topic since it was quite covered already. Will follow-up with Dr Bisanga's verdict - which is my de facto trusted source.

Hi John, thanks for the welcome. Totally makes sense regarding the middleman. Since I can't trust their criteria / review process, why bother indeed. Noting down that Hattingen one, as well as the red flag for ARTAS / NeoGraft & co. Based on the list you provide, I seem to be lucky to live 45min away from Brussels 🙂

Hello Everyone, Jem from Belgium here, 36 and getting quite bald. First signs started about 15 years ago and I've thought about a procedure for almost 10 years now. Attached is a picture of how awful it looks when taken from its worst angle, under direct artificial light. Makes me think of Dr. Frankenstein's assistant who's to fetch a fresh brain from the fridge. In a matter of years, the worst lightning conditions won't be necessary anymore to achieve that result. I met a hairline specialist about ten years ago. He wasn't very optimistic as the balding area was already threatening to be huge. I never agreed to the idea of a medical treatment - ie. pills, hormonal therapy or whatever is needed on a daily basis for damage control, the risk of man-boobs set aside. So I put the idea on the backburner for a while as I wasn't financially capable to offset the cost. The notion of "in Turkey they're better" is so conveyed by hairdressers that I got a few contacts over there. Other forum posts seem to confirm the same observation I made: not only do they pay for good reviews which makes the whole "trustpilot" thing irrelevant, but they also pay to issue bad reviews to their competitors: "botched work (...) my donor area is now ruined (...) it only looked clean on the website (...) butchers (...)". Quite the thrill! Top 3 specialists on site A and B are being destroyed in google/trustpilot reviews. Even though I can now afford a 20k eur transplant, I'm still being annoyed by the thought I could get an equally good result for less than half that price. I've recently been in touch with qunomedical.com - very friendly, not pressuring and shouldn't be long until they come up with a few offers. Turkey, Germany and Eastern Europe. The one in Germany uses an automated robotic system. Since the QunoMedical staff does the legwork, they screen the practitioners using their own approach (chef's special, just trust the blackbox). However, I can't find a way to trust them: it feels like the time I signed up for a trip to Italy where everything was so bad we keep a good memory of it, as a farce. I don't want a farce on my head though, so I come to this forum. Germany sounds serious, but there's also Dieselgate in that country. So what? Not based on the website, not based on third-party independent review sites... damn, do I have trust issues? Apart from just ditching the whole "comparison effort" and just signing up for Dr Bisanga's treatment, I'd love to discuss my approach here, and read reviews about how other people approached the topic. Thanks for the attention!

Hi, Great work and result from the looks of your pictures. I've got a similar balding pattern, and am waiting for Dr Bisanga's verdict. In the meantime, I'm curious as per why you didn't get the "crown" bit redone. Can you share the reason for this please? Thanks,