Cmike

Ive been on oral fin for almost 3 years. I’ve always understood that stopping Minox would cause all the hairs gained on Minox to fall after stopping it regardless of fin being used. However, I’m reading from some people that If you were on fin for awhile before starting Minox you could keep some of the gains made on it? Is this true or false?

45 minutes ago, Big Rome said:

you got a sick hairline bro, leave that alone 🤣🤣💙 see how you feel when you’re closer to 30 

Thank you so much for your reply. Idk why I think the way I do about my hairline haha

49 minutes ago, StillAlive said:

Dude, you have perfect hair, with what, an obsessive psychopath might call NW1.5 temples. People have literally spent tens of thousands of dollars hoping to get hair like yours on this forum. You do not show any signs of hair loss. Doing a transplant for vanity's sake will actually put you in more danger of shock loss and damaging your existing hair as any ethical surgeon would tell you. 

Don't do it. Don't be the good looking woman who got plastic surgery to be 'perfect' and now stars in late night C-list reality shows. 

Thank you so much for your reply. Also, really liked the plastic surgery reference haha. Cheers man

Hi everyone. Wanting to get a hair transplant to straighten up my hairline. I think I still have pretty good density everywhere and around hairline. No balding on crown. Just really don’t like my hairline. Wondering what norwood level you guys think I am. As well as how many grafts I would probably need. I’m 25 years old. 

13 hours ago, 5BetaReductase said:

Imo there aren’t any safe nor worthy options atm. RU and CB are all manufactured in unknown/questionable labs in China. Second, there isn’t a lot of safety data for either. I would personally stick to fin/dut as those remain the gold standard in terms of treatments.

Could I get on topical fin/dut while taking oral finasteride or would that just be rather counterintative 

On 1/16/2023 at 9:42 PM, 5BetaReductase said:

Finasteride works for all hairs affected by dht. The problem is follicles at the hairline are generally more sensitive to androgens and are some of the first hairs to go when male pattern baldness hits. There are studies for finasteride and dutasteride that show the hairline can benefit, although not as well as the crown.

Do you use any topical anti androgen or reccomnend any? Thanks so much!

Hey everyone, quick question. Does finasteride maintain hairline. Seen a lot of stuff saying it “can” maintain the hairline, but I’ve heard a lot of people say it works better on the crown. Ive been taking oral finasteride for two years and looking to add a topic anti androgen here soon. Any topical recommendations would be greatly appreciated as well! 

2 hours ago, Rahal Hair Transplant said:

I agree that if you’re going to try a topical antiandrogen that you should try finasteride or dutasteride.  That said, taking it orally would be the better way to go unless you’ve experienced side effects.   

If you’ve experienced side effects and / or are concerned about them, then the next best thing to do is to try taking them topically.

Best wishes,

Rahal Hair Transplant 

I’m actually already taking oral finasteride! Just wanted to add a topical as well!

4 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Topical finasteride and dutasteride is the way to go. RU58841 gave me sides, and could potentially affect your heart. Definitely not worth it. CB-03-01 is one to look for in the future.

Thanks my man! So you can stack topical finasteride and oral finasteride ? I didn’t even think of that haha

Hey everyone, was wondering if anyone here has experience with topical anti-androgens. Looking to add it to finasteride. I’ve read up a little on RU58841 . Wondering if anyone has experience using it or other topical anti androgens to look into. As well as any side effects to note. Thanks all!

9 hours ago, Rahal Hair Transplant said:

Cmike,

To give you some advice, it would be helpful if you could provide a bit more information. For example how old are you? Also, do you have any photos you can show of the top of your scalp?  

Unfortunately, finasteride doesn’t work for everybody. And for those it works for, sometimes it only works in the crown area. That said, although it’s only proven to work in the crown, it does sometimes work in the hairline and sometimes stops hairline recession. Unfortunately, this may not be the case for you.

Keep in mind also that not everybody who experiences male pattern baldness will advance to a Norwood class 6 or 7.   Unfortunately however, there’s no way to determine with certainty how far your hair loss will advance.  But, family history and your current hair loss pattern can be a guide for both you and your surgeon.

To address your original concern and question, many people who don’t use nonsurgeal treatments can and do proceed with hair transplant surgery.  That said, an experienced and skilled surgeon will take a more conservative approach and discuss not only the short term goals of a single hair transplant, but long-term strategy which may involve subsequent procedures if necessary.

In my opinion, consult a few leading hair transplant surgeons recommended by this community and garner their professional input on the best course of action for you both short and long-term.

Best wishes,

Rahal Hair Transplant

The first picture is a month into finasteride (about a year and 2 months ago) and the second picture was taken today. I’ll take your opinion if it’s recessed as you know quite a bit more than I do. I initially thought it was recessed but upon looking more it seems like the second picture (current) has a lot more density around the hairline

5 hours ago, Mike10 said:

Finansteride usually does not work in the hairline area. It is taken for the middle and the crown! I am repeating myself over and over with this. They all want to keep believing it is this miracle drug while it is not.

At 23 you are too young for a HT in my opinion.  

Man you’re not kidding. No one in my family that I remember is even bald haha. Both my grandpas had a thick head of hair, and same with my dad. Do you add any other alpha 5 reductase inhibitors to the oral finasteride? I wanted to try and take as little as possible at first, but now I feel like I might need to add something else in here. Thanks!

4 hours ago, NARMAK said:

Finasteride helps to slow down hair loss. Usually the hair that recedes does so in a pattern from front to back. So the hair you described could have been weaker and past the point of saving if they had become weak and miniaturised however, there's also a chance that Finasteride could be causing them to shed and starting a regrowth cycle. A hair cycle can take around 3 months though, so it's also a reason you may look bad at times and better in others. 

The medication will definitely help but its not a miracle. Very few manage to block enough scalp DHT to completely block hair loss in its tracks. Finasteride blocks 41% scalp DHT at 1mg everyday. To block 100% of your scalp DHT, your native hairs resistance in all areas would need to be a minimum of 59% and then you could argue you might still lose out if something or other increased your DHT levels on the scalp. 

Even Dutasteride that blocks 51% scalp DHT, if your native scalp DHT resistance was 30%, would mean you still are getting affected but it's still going to be significantly slower than not using it. 

Until there's something better out there we can add on top, just trust the process and at 23, you are way too young imo unless you can show stability till around 25 for a few years to consider a hair transplant. It would probably lead to further hair loss into your 30s you'd be chasing to cover up. 

Do you think it’s possible to see a shed phase even after a year? I’m not too sure, but I always thought the shed phase happened earlier on, which I never really noticed. Do you add any other alpha 5 reductase inhibitors with finasteride? Thanks for your reply!

31 minutes ago, Dillpickle123 said:

It could be that those hair were too far gone my hairline has also receded more even on finasteride could be that those hairs were bound to fall off finasteride can only slow down hairloss how old are you? As long as most of the mid scalp and crown are good then it’s probably working only way too tell is blood tests to see if it’s lowering dht 

23 about to turn 24. Defintely going to look into getting a blood test for dht levels. And I’ve done a pretty good job documenting. Up until a month or two ago, those hairs were still there and pretty dense. Not sure if stress or something else has played a factor but

Hey guys, coming back to you for some advice. I’ve been on finasteride for a year now, and it seems as if my hairline has gotten worse. I still have good density, but it’s defintely receded a bit more. I really want to get a hair transplant, I’m just worried that if finasteride can’t atleast stop the hair loss, than a transplant will be a waste of money. Should I try dutasteride? Or are there any other suggestions. Thanks to all!

Hey guys, is it normal to have a shedding phase while on finasteride? Also, is there any other hair growth stimulants besides minoxidil? I have some heart issues already and don’t want to mess with it. Thanks!

Hey guys, I’m new to this hair loss journey, and wanted to get peoples thoughts on what’s best. I’m about a Norwood 1.5 to Norwood. And I’m on finasteride but I want to even put my hairline. I have an appoint with a doctor for a transplant and wondered what’s the difference between FUE and FUT? And what’s better?

4 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Well, if it’s progressed, then it’s progressing due to MPB. Definitely get on medication, instead of being in denial. I would say Norwood 1.5. 

Yeah I’m definitely going to get on finasteride pretty soon. Thanks for you help. You don’t think it could just be a mature hairline ?

3 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Well, that’s definitely some minor recession. There’s no way you were born with receded temples. Forget about surgery and get on finasteride and minoxidil. Preserve what you got, it looks good. 

I’ve always had a U shaped hairline, just not as noticeable when I was younger compared to now. Also what Norwood level would you say I’m at?

3 minutes ago, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said:

You have awesome hair. Yeah, I just saw the 3 pictures. It was initially showing only 1 picture. Definitely no need for a hair transplant. It looks like a mature hairline. I would definitely consider a topical solution of finasteride/minoxidil. I use Morr F and it works well for me. 

Awesome! I will definitely talk to my doctor about monoxidal. A little hesitant to start it because I have high blood pressure and palpitations already. 

8 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

You have awesome hair. With just a maturing hairline, which is very normal. Definitely don’t need a hair transplant. You would have the risk of shocking out the existing hair. You  have such good density in your native hair a transplant wouldn’t come close to matching it. 

Wow, thank you guys so much for the support, I didn’t even think anyone would see my post! Yeah I didn’t really want to spend the money on a transplant, I’ve just always been insecure about my hairline and wanted to be corrected. Guess I’ll just save my money! Any idea how many grafts I would need? I’m curious as I have no idea cuz I’m new to this 

2 minutes ago, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said:

Thanks for sharing. Looks like you've got a mature hairline based on that photo. I wouldn't get a hair transplant. Are you on finasteride and minoxidil?

If you'd like, you should consult with the recommended surgeons:

https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Consult-a-Physician/hair-transplant-surgeons.asp?sr=HRN

Hi doc, did you get to look at all 3 pictures I uploaded? I’m new to this app and want to make sure I didn’t screw anything up 

3 minutes ago, Cmike said:

1 hour ago, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said:

Would you kindly share some pictures?

3 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Are you sure you were born with high temple points and they’re not receding? Have you gone and looked at your pictures when you were a child?

Yeah in pictures when I was younger I had higher temple points than most kids and was always insecure about it. They’ve definitely moved back a little bit, but my guess is that’s just my mature hairline. I haven’t noticed any progression for a while. Getting started on finasteride pretty soon just to play it safe