TrialAcc

19 hours ago, Gokuhairline said:

why did you and still continue to take finasteride if you are having sides ? you said they are manageable but does that not worry you about the future ? and also if you stop finas i am sure you've heard about PFS right . good luck. hair results look good.

Don't fear monger over finasteride like this, it does nothing useful. Minor sides from fin can be things like a minor reduction in libido or watery semen. '

In addition, while I don't disagree that PFS is a thing, it's occurrence rate is so ridiculously low that it's nothing that someone who takes fin should be worried about if they stop the medication. 

On 5/19/2021 at 12:42 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

I would argue the opposite, Norwood 5+ guys don’t need meds after getting an HT as much as a Norwood 2-3. They got nothing to lose and everything to gain, no pun intended.

Yeah but think about what could happen if you could regrow even 25% of your original density through a new treatment or could get even 50% more grafts through a hair multiplication or cloning. Your illusion of density would become the real thing. Early NW guys at later ages without aggressive hairloss don't need to get gain anything back that their grafts can't already get them, they can get good-to-great density from 1 dense pack procedure. 

I wasn't talking about existing science, I meant future treatments like cloning to help higher NW guys get full heads of hair again. 

I picked up on this myself after realizing what hair transplants were 2-3 years ago. I remember seeing Dave in random youtube videos and he has a pretty noticeable crown bald spot that disappeared after he got mega rich and starting partying with models. Then I saw he openly admitted it. 

To be fair, I don't know why anyone in their late 30s~ with mild hairloss wouldn't look into a transplant with today's results. These guys are ideal candidates and it's a very good option. It's the NW5+ guys that still need some assistance from science. 

Just now, TrialAcc said:

Don't consider a transplant at your age without Fin, in my opinion. Your hair isn't that bad and you could get some stunning results that last for decades. 

 

The alternative is getting a HT done and enjoying it for 2-3 years and probably needing another one, followed by another one a few years after that. 

Don't consider a transplant at your age without Fin, in my opinion. Your hair isn't that bad and you could get some stunning results that last for decades. 

The alternative is getting a HT done and enjoying it for 2-3 years and probably needing another one. 

You need to get on finasteride yesterday if you even want to contemplate a hair transplant. You also have a ton of hair in your thinning areas that could be thickened and maintained for years to the point where you might not even want a transplant anymore, as there isn't a fully bald area on your entire crown/midscalp. Given your loss pattern right now and based on what you said about results, I wouldn't think it's possible to get the results that you're looking for. 

Get on fin + minoxidil + weekly dermarolling, assess in a year and maybe you'll be in a much better spot for a transplant. 

Doesn't look like 2500 grafts, but certainly not a bad result. 9.5 months in and the textures of his hair don't match yet, but in a another 6-9 months at full density and the hair starts to mimic the natural hair texture it will be fine for someone like him. He doesn't look it, but he's in his early/mid 30s and I doubt he has extensive loss incoming with such minimal recession. 

6 hours ago, FkdUpHairline said:

Yes mate, was a lurker before registering after HT.

I don't think it was stupid of me to want to preserve the donor area. I'm only 25. As much as a dense packed hairline was tempting., my hairline stabilized due to the meds, but it might've not forever. Being that FUT is out of the question, and I'm open to more FUE hair transplant in the future, I don't think I made the wrong decision, being that on average 4k FUE grafts is all you can give without being bald in the back. As you've said, it's healing nicely as expected except for the shock loss in the back.

Let's see how it goes, I'll keep my fingers crossed for my sake that it at least turns out to look decent.

Where did you get the 4k number? Most people easily have 6k+ grafts available. 

The work should blend into your existing density and look pretty natural, however are you on finasteride? If not, I would 100% speak to a doctor about trying it out because you will 100% need another pass on the front to add density if you lose your natural hair there. 

On the graft counts, I don't think this is 500 and 100 as some poster said, but I would say there is about 300 max in the crown and maybe 700-1000 on the front. I would defiantly ask for that graft count and possibly even literally count the dots with MSpaint or something to verify. 

Good luck! Happy growing!

1 hour ago, FuriousGeorge said:

Border is closed to all US citizens - only Canadians traveling back from the US are mandated to quarantine. If a US citizen shows up by plane, train, car, boat or hot air balloon, they will be turned away....unless it’s considered essential services ( I would argue hair restoration is essential - if only Trudeau were bald, maybe he’d agree 🤣). 

 

Really? I know American's that just landed in Vancouver and are quarantining in one of the mandated hotels. Now I wonder what essential service they told. 

5 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I don’t think you should be forced to take a vaccine to travel. For example, I’ve already had Covid back in October. I will not be taking the vaccine, which long term effects are unknown, for a condition I’ve already survived.

I also don’t agree with having to provide proof of any medical condition to travel anywhere. Just because something has been around doesn’t make it right. But that’s neither here nor there.

Not to start a debate here but it's fully reasonable and appropriate for a country to require things like vaccinations to allow foreign visitors into their borders. You aren't a citizen of that country, and they have every right to enforce whatever type of healthcare standards they see fit to allow you to visit. This exists all over parts of the world. If it's not something that you are interested in then you don't have to visit that specific country. 

23 hours ago, O Hare 57 said:

I booked with HW in November 2019.  Then had to reschedule three times, then gave up.  I then went to someone else which I now regret.  If Canada aint open in the next 4-6 months I think they will be closed forever.  YOull have to wait until they elect someone else.  Unless you want to vacation for 10 days in a cheap hotel b4 you are seen.  If they drop the Covid crisis they lose the control they have gained.  911 happened 20 years ago and we are still taking off our shoes at the airport.

 

There are other great docs in US.  Good luck...

 

 

 

 

 

Yes because it's Trudeau's fault that America let covid go unchecked and we had to close our borders to protect our healthcare systems...

On 4/29/2021 at 12:12 AM, FuriousGeorge said:

Been pushing my megasession FUT appointment (4-4.5k grafts) with Dr Hasson for almost a year now and Canada is not looking very positive relative to the US. It seems super unclear when the border will open and it’s getting super frustrating to see no end in sight. 

I’ve decided I will only let Hasson or Konior cut me. 

I’ve recently consulted with Dr. Konior who has been great in providing good info on what he would do (4K grafts) and his overall assessment. I was transparent with him about my perpetual Hasson appointment and he openly informed me that Dr Hasson is very good at large sessions and advised me to wait things out of I could, which was an interesting and honest response. 

Konior has a non-refundable $2k deposit, which really discourages me from booking something with him as a backup in case the border continues to stay closed into 2022.

I don’t doubt that Konior would do a great job, but wanted to call out for any other info I should consider and any advice or recommendations? 

 

Why don't you just fly in and book a airbnb or something for 2~ weeks if possible? Pretty sure you can skip the quarantine with negative covid tests on both sides of the flight. BC is beautiful in the early summer, maybe make a mini vacation out of it once the healing is done? 

5 hours ago, mcr7777 said:

I am on lymcecycline and topical steroids and have just started hydrochloroquine too. No sides form these (unlike fin which made my condition a lot worse and caused sides).

 

I'd suggest seeing a dermatologist that specialises in hair loss - ideally one that knows about scarring alopecias.  A lot of people seem to get misdiagnosed due to ignorance of many general derms about the condition.  This means treatments are delayed and lots of hair is lost before a diagnoses is made - this happened in my case.  It wasn't until I got the digital microscope that I realised myself what it was.  You don't regrow hair from LPP loss so suggest getting diagnosed as quickly as you can if you think it might be what you have.

 

 

 

 

Okay thanks for the information. No chance of regrowth at all? That's pretty depressing!

On 4/24/2021 at 12:45 PM, mcr7777 said:

I'd definitely recommend getting a dermatologist/hair specialist to examine your scalp for signs of inflammation.  I had the same as you and was diagnosed with lichen planopilaris.  Treatments are needed to stop shedding (mine is finally getting better).  

 

You can even buy a digital microscope on amazon for about £18/less than 20 USD.  You should be able to see if there are worrying signs like redness around the hair follicles. 

 

 

 

I have visible redness all along by thinning area, don't need a microscope for that haha. I'm happy to hear it's improving, what treatment have you been using? 

You should look into rescheduling it. It looks like India could be facing some large scale systemic failures through their medical infrastructure and as I'm assuming you're a foreigner you probably don't want to risk getting stuck there or worse getting actually sick and not having medical treatment available to you after already undergoing a medical procedure.  

This is also a guess, but I'm assuming covid would be very bad for new hair growth after a transplant. Covid is an inflammatory virus that harms the body through androgen receptors (among other things). Many people who have had covid have suffered hairloss in the resulting months.  

1 hour ago, 1978matt said:

There's no strip scar in either

You don't see the line that is visible at the back of both his ears in the same spot? Looks like a heavily faded/concealed strip to me. 

The whole point is that it's been well faded/worked on. Otherwise why would these guys be shaving their heads. 

10 minutes ago, 1978matt said:

Please post these pictures

I posted two (one of each side, different times), just scroll up. 

20 hours ago, 1978matt said:

Cooper does something, but the jury is out on what exactly.

It could be partial system, fin, small HT and fibers, or a combination of these.

He had to have had a HT on his temples (or like you said a partial system). His hairline is lower then it was when he was in his teens in his 40s and no prevention meds are going o achieve that. 

20 hours ago, 1978matt said:

Depp's never had a HT.  Plenty of pictures are out there to show a consistent hairline.  Here are some with shaved back and sides:

The same goes for Tom Hardy:

It's called concealer, infact I think if you zoom in on Hardy there the scrip is actually visible slightly as well but there are multiple pictures where you can find his scar clear (Hardy). Wouldn't be surprised if the same goes for Depp. 

Like others have said, these bigger hollywood guys literally have teams that focus on their appearance as well as access to the best cosmetic treatments after the fact. If they can hide their hairloss in the first place then they can do the same with the resulting scars. 

6 minutes ago, HelpfulFriend said:

This is something people avoid talking about, or at least, try not to think about.

There are instances of people still losing their hair on Finasteride, which begs the question, how can anyone be confident in a transplant?

It might best to share some pictures. How long have you noticed the thinning? Could it align with the change in seasons?

Wishing you all the best!

That's why the best & most ethical surgeons won't overuse grafts and make a overall plan if you end up losing more hair. 

3 hours ago, Dillpickle123 said:

Clearer photos of the problem areas 

Looks about the same, maaaybe slightly improved. Even if you don't see improvement, remember that it's not a sign that the treatment isn't working. I guarantee if you kept the hair you had now you'd be thrilled going into your 30s. Keep at it!

31 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

People think that shaving your head is less hassle as you don't have to see the barber, but it's actually the opposite. I agree it all boils down to how you feel. Some guys don't care about shaving, and to those guys I say don't bother getting an HT, the cost, maintenance, etc probably isn't worth it. Head shape is important too. When I shaved my head I looked like a shrunken head from Beetlejuice. I'll be completely honest after making your video I have to say you look 100x better now with hair; hair brings out your eyes, highlights your features, and even make your clothes look better. I would wager to say 99% of men look better with hair. 

Man you have a fully normal head shape, honestly probably better then most bald guys. We are our own toughest critics. 

45 minutes ago, Zoomster said:

For me it all boiled down to getting tired of the hassle of wet shaving it every other day as the slightly grown out horseshoe was a no no..particularly in my late 20s right through to my mid 40s...

It's all an inside job..by that I mean if you feel good about yourself with a shaved head /going bald you wont be held back in your career ,lady department,etc etc ..if it bothers you..you will.

If having hair makes you feel good inside...guess what.. these vibrations are felt by others and by extension ...things tend to fall into place as a result ..

Z

This is basically how it is. In 99% of cases, being bald is only actually a problem when it affects your perception of yourself to the point of obsession because it is going to be reflected in almost every interaction you have (the exception would probably be if you rely heavily on appearance for your career, like actors, models or vanity driven sales) . People don't like to hear this though, they'd rather blame the instance of baldness itself for why they are treated differently or feel differently rather then coming to the conclusion/reality that no one actually cares and what people are actually reacting to is the extreme negative atmosphere you are giving off. 

Don't do anything rash. You're going to be able to cover up this area completely pretty quickly with your natural hair. From there you can get in contact with actual world-class clinics to either repair or add density to make it look natural. As long as the hair you just got transplanted is growing the correct direction I don't think it will be too difficult to add more natural density.