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25 minutes ago, Maa said:

Day 1-7:

Yes they gave me saline spray to use every 2 hour on the recpient and Then some spray to clean both recipient and donor once at Day and rinse it away with a cup water.

And Then cream do the donor.
 

Day

8-14

The same as earlier but also now with mild shampoo and jjojba serum to the recpient. And i could massage the scrabs away.

 

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Thank you for sharing that! I’m also curious as I will have my consultation with Dr Bisanga in about 3 weeks: how long did you have to wait between your consultation and surgery? And how do you follow up after surgery?

Thank you! Were  you given the. Shampoo and serum? I’ve heard some doctors give a light bandana one can wear a few days later

Do you spray salt water or use any product to soothe the scalp? Can you wash your hair now?

Hi there - amazing job! I am considering getting a Ht at BHR. Did you get it in Brussels or Athens?

On 9/29/2020 at 3:26 AM, Melvin-Moderator said:

Can you share the price per graft? I believe it's somewhere around 2.50-3 per graft right?

yes 2.5 That is what I was offered to get the HT in Athens, but Bisanga would only oversee the surgery and everything will be done by someone else (except for making the recipient sites, that he would do with another doctor). I am not sure what to think about it... in Brussels it would be 4/graft, which leads to a very expensive bill - but he would punch the extraction sites and make the recipient sites himself. I think I will need to find a middle ground. I am now browsing the forum looking for experiences of people who got their HT in Athens. It seems he did a lot of the work for most of them, which puzzles me. We'll see.

Thank you all guys! I reached out to Dr Bisanga and I am going to make an appointment. He estimated I would need around 2400 grafts and he told me about BHR clinic in Athens. He offered a cheaper arrangement in Athens, the main difference consisting in everything being done by other people under his watch (except for making the recipient sites together with another doctor).

Before I go into the consultation I wanted to ask: what's your opinion about BHR in Athens and what real difference could I expect? I am particularly nervous about the extraction sites punching, which as far as I know is the most delicate part and there is a risk of damaging the follicles if not done properly.

Thanks for your advice!

UPDATE: I filled out the online form that’s in the BHS Athens website and I heard back. They asked for more pics to see the donor area and I sent the ones here below. I should get their feedback soon. The light in my bathroom is very strong that’s why I took the pics there (and that’s why the scalp is very visible - less shadows than irl)

10 minutes ago, ShadowMoon said:

Not going to derail this thread to debate the side effect profile of finasteride. There's enough conversation on this site to look it up if you want. Or you can read any of the large studies done on propecia. I've been taking it daily for two years and have had no side effects with great regrowth.

Same for me, no side effects. I have good sex. Not really huge loads, but that’s prob bc I have sex too often and the tank takes time to refill lol When I wait a couple of days my loads are normal so I would say finasteride had no significant effect on me. 

6 minutes ago, ShadowMoon said:

You get more grafts if you start with FUT. You're able to get more grafts over the course of your life, that's what I mean by future-proofing it. Nothing is 100% of course, it's just doing everything you can to save yourself from trouble 20 years down the road.

Sorry I still don’t get it. You mean the FUT HT would allow getting more transplants whereas the FUE would not and I would need to go for a second HT to fill my scalp even more? I’ve seen pretty dense results with FUE were posted on this forum, I thought there was no difference.

Also, when you suggest a conservative hairline, what do you mean? Many people use that expression but idk what it refers to

I know it’s used in Italy, mainly on the face to stimulate the cells to produce collagen and naturally fill wrinkles and improve the quality of the skin (turns back the clock). Some doctors do it on the scalp for hair regrowth.

I haven’t found a place for it in Belgium, though...

11 hours ago, ShadowMoon said:

Don't worry about finasteride, it's not messing with your hormones to the degree that your body can't compensate. Women taking birth control is much more significant and that is prescribed to the majority of women in America, at least. 

At 26 I'd say you can get a hair transplant IF you are willing to settle for a mature, conservative hairline. The second thing is you should strongly consider FUT if you want to future-proof your transplant. 

What do you mean by “conservative hairline”? And can you elaborate on why FUT would last for longer? I thought FUE and FUT were equivalent. Thanks!

Nanofat seems a promising addition to PRP injections, minoxidil and other therapies to regrow hair. Has anyone ever tried it? Seems pretty expensive.

https://ciinmagazine.com/beauty/ciin22072001-latest-hair-growth-injectable/

It begs the question: do implanted grafts really dodge the effect of DHT? I believe if one does not halt alopecia, both the implants and native hair will eventually fall out bc that's what the body is prone to doing.

Hi guys,

thanks for your feedback! I'd like to address your comments:

1 hour ago, 1978matt said:

I think you're probably good to go.

I would choose Bisanga, for his hairlines, and Ferdiuni second.  I'm thinking 2500-3000 grafts.

You don't want to be dropping the hairline at all.  Better to go conservative and have a good hairline with a natural looking recession which works with existing hair.

Thanks for the recommendation. I see Bisanga is worshipped in this forum and I would like to schedule a consultation with him I'd like to know what he has to say. I really do not like my empty temples, they make it hard to have longer hairstyles. Do you think if I get a lower hairline it will not blend with my native hair?

8 minutes ago, jolly said:

I do not agree,  at age 26 your hair loss is not stable in the first place , secondly at this young age it is impossible for any doctor to accurately predict your safe donor area as donor thinning with age is a reality and in FUE that grafts are taken from all over the donor that itself is a risk that the doctor might over shoot the safe area and that hair wont last long. in my opinion wait till you are 35 as by then even your hair loss will establish a pattern which can be easily predicted by the doctor and your donor hair will be much stable .... and avoid messing with your hormones ... life is too precious too play with fire and then repent for a handful of hair so i would avoid propecia  ... anyways in my opinion transplanted hair anyways do not last forever .... i do not buy that theory ... as i believe the Recipient area does have an effect on the transplanted hair and DHT does thin them too  over time .

 

Thanks for your advice, I'll definitely keep it in mind. I feel I might have to wait a little longer and just wait to see if PRP + my therapy can regrow something and stabilize it before I can go for a HT. I too believe the recipient area has an effect on the implanted hair, that's part of why I want the effect of my therapy to be stable before I undergo such stressful (and pricey) procedure. I wanna hear what Bisanga has to say, I will keep you posted.

As for finasteride, tbh sex is good and I read if I should get any side effects it would be from the start, not two years into the treatment...

BTW, what do you think is the difference between BHS in Brussels and Athens (apart from the price being allegedly half as much in Athens...)?

On 9/3/2020 at 10:15 AM, ukpaitent said:

 I have tried to take pictures in better light. First 3 are dry hair last 3 are wet. You can see in the wet pics the hairline on the left corner needs to mature otherwise it will definitely need a top up, the same goes for the right side. There is also a small part in the middle of hairline that is similar too. Its really important to say that one set of pics does not represent the result. Some days my hair feels very dense and full and other days it looks very thin and see through. Also depending on lighting  and styling etc as to how the hair will look. As said in my previous post if I can get the areas at the left & right side to thicken up by maturing or having an additional top up then it will be the perfect result for me. 

I think your result is great! If you were to top up some less dense area, how would it work? Would you have to shave everything again? I guess Dr Bisanga would give you a discount on a top up.

I’m sorry if I posted in the wrong section of the forum!

On 9/26/2020 at 5:24 PM, Curious said:

I just received my package of Morr F topical.  It's 5% minoxidil and .1% finasteride.  It comes with a sprayer and a dropper.  I would prefer that it not have any minoxidil in it.

Is your scalp tolerating it ok? Which brand did you get?

On 10/8/2020 at 3:38 PM, TommyLucchese said:

i ordered topical fin and minoxidil combo a few weeks ago, waiting for it to arrive. Have been on propecia/proscar for 10 and a half years so it will be an interesting change.

I am on Finasteride 1mg and Minoxidik 5% (twice a day). Interested to get your feedback!

Hi everyone,

This is my first post in this forum, I have just signed up.

I am a 26-year-old based in Brussels. Been experiencing alopecia since I was 23-24 and I started Minoxidil (2% at first, then moved on to 5% that I now apply twice daily) around 2016 and finasteride 1mg in mid-2018. My hair loss seems to have slowed down significantly but I feel my frontal area has lost a lot of density over the past 2-3 years. I have started getting PRP injections but I only got my first session last June so too early to say if it is going to help me regrow any hair. In the meantime, I have noticed some thin blond hair popping through, which makes me hope these treatments are somehow helping me maintain my scalp active and productive.

I am now starting to consider getting a HT to lower my hairline and restore density in the top/front of my head. I am wondering if that would damage the new hair that's slowly coming out... I read about FUE and it seems a great option, when performed by an expert. I am not sure if the FUT technique has any advantage, but from what I have read it seems negligible. Some people say the implanted hair stays there forever and isn't going to be affected by alopecia, not sure I believe that (any opinions on this?)...

Ideally, I would like to get thicker denser hair that I can grow long - is that something I can do after a HT or do I risk seeing my implants fall off?

Anyway, considering I am in Brussels I have looked up several doctors who seem to be great at the FUE technique and are not too far, should I need to go see them to follow up. In Belgium, I have seen Dr Bisanga, Lupanzula and Feriduni have a very good reputation. I have also read great things about Dr Reddy in London.

I would like to get your opinion on whether I should go for a FUE HT or wait longer and your views on these doctors - what makes any of them stand out and what are the main differences? From what I have read, they all seem equally competent and use the same methods. If you would like to suggest other doctors, I would be more than glad to look into them as well. I think I will consult 2-3 doctos before making a final choice. I can keep you up-to-date!

Below some pictures of my hair.

Thank you for your opinions!

Cheers!

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