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8 hours ago, Gokuhairline said:

OP it will be 3 years in a few months since you started the thread....what have you done about the hair or procedures ? NYC doctors are crazy expensive , there is a guy here that went to Dorin but stopped posting 4 months into his progress with some growth issues....something to be mindful of.....5K is nyc is just not happening , maybe in Europe . good luck. 

I have gone to get hair transplant consultations and take minoxidil. I have gotten so sick of losing my hair and doing all of these medications and stuff. I honestly am at my end with this shit. I'm thinking of just shaving it off as bc of my DUPA there's nothing really i can do other than finasteride. Exosome therapy is a consideration but the other guys on this forum aren't super confident about it..

7 hours ago, Curious25 said:

This. 
 

Laser therapy won’t do anything for you, and considering the amount of hype these US surgeons give exosomes, they’re amusingly reluctant to share any before and afters of these so called ‘dramatic’ transformations. 
 

Total money grab IMO 

But exosomes is actually injecting stem cells into your head, not laser therapy. I dont really believe in the PRP therapy or laser comb.

12 hours ago, Style22 said:

Was nothing more than a massive waist of money for me. You say it has worked for a massive amount of people according to Dorin? Where are these people? Dr. McGrath in Austin said the same to me and I bought it. Like Melvin suggested I’d look into other proven therapies.

So you thought it was a complete waste? Dr. Mcgrath in Austin is who Dr. Dorin suggest I go to! I haven't started doing too much research into it yet but is there anything else you can tell me?

8 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Unfortunate about the DUPA are you on medication?

I'm not I don't want to go on finasteride because of the side effects. I know they are small but even psychologically it might get to me. 

9 hours ago, SD1984 said:

I understand where you're coming from. I know all too well what it's like to look in the mirror and see your hairline receded badly and just wanting to do anything to get it back. Personally I would not suggest smp in your case but that's just me. If you truly understand all the potential consequences of a HT given your particular situation (i.e. You will likely need at least one more procedure down the road once your forelock thins out, if DUPA persists further the FUE scars may very well become more noticeable, and also that you will likely have a completely bald crown one day without grafts to cover it, etc) then I do think a conservative 2200-2500 graft (or so) procedure for the front could give you what you want, reframing your face and adding some density to the overall frontal third area. Pekiner is one of the few best in Turkey, but if you have the funds financially, I would suggest staying in the US for all the obvious reasons. I had a consult with Dr. Dorin and he was great, just way too expensive for me.

Appreciate the advice man!

On 3/8/2022 at 5:45 AM, AB2000 said:

I'd wait five years and see how aggressively your hair loss progresses.  If you are on a trajectory to lose most of your hair then transplanting it will not cause it to stay in the recipient area, it will fall out there too.  If you have body and beard hair, a possible solution is to use it and buzz it short all the time, and add some SMP to create the look of coverage.

Here's an example of someone with wide balding and using 2000 FUE's spread out:

 

Definitely think he looks better in the video, but that just doesn't seem worth it to me idk what you think.

On 3/8/2022 at 1:40 AM, Gatsby said:

Can I ask how old you are? I'm guessing mid - late 20's? Maybe 30? If you have been diagnosed with DUPA and you have a transplant all you are going to be left with is having paid three or four more times than your initial $5k budget, very little hair and a scalp full of scars in 10 years time. I don't mean to come across as brutal because I really care about how you are really going to feel in the future when it's all to late to go back in time and undo all this. You look good with your hair buzzed short. Have you considered SMP? Have you considered a hair piece or have you considered shaving your head (even just to see how you look and feel with a shaved head that will grow back)?

Thanks for the advice man, i really appreciate it. I've shaved my head once and hated it because i still had a front island of hair that was embarassing. but im thinking i might just have to continuously shave it every other day or something so i dont have that look. I'm 28. And Im only really considering shaving it off or SMP. I've heard of SMP but i get nervous that it looks too fake up close. I was told by Dr. Dorin that exosomes might be worthwhile. Has anyone heard of that? Is that legit?

So I've been posting on this forum, and was looking to do a hair transplant. Through research on this website I heard about Dr. Dorin in NYC, so I went for a consultation. I was told I have DUPA and was not a good candidate for a HT. However, Dr. Dorin suggested exosomes as a possible hair loss solution. It has worked for many people with my condition, although it is not FDA approved. It's like $6k and its basically injecting stem cells into your head. Has anyone heard of this and is this legit?

Hi Guys,

I'm back! I went to Dr. Dorin in NYC and he advised me to get a test done to test my levels of testosterone which would tell me if I have DUPA or not or something like that. Turns out I do have DUPA I guess, but I still want to do a hair transplant. I just really dont want to be bald and am at the point now where I think i look terrible. what do you guys think I should do? Is my "DUPA" condition really that bad or can I get a transplant?

25 minutes ago, Abi28 said:

It seems like you are rushing things a bit? check with multiple doctors. Pekiner is very ethical him saying you are not a good candidate is something to think about. Have you checked Dr Boden's results on the forum? I haven't heard of him before so I can't really comment, you should consult with multiple doctors about this.. I have seen Konior's results on the forum and they are impressive, you should contact him, anyways best of luck!

I have been thinking about this for 4 years. I mentioned my wedding coming up previously only because I now want to take action and this gives me incentive to do so. I have thought about this for a long time and am just super unhappy with the way that I currently look. I believe this will help me feel more confident and help to change my life, but only if I can do it. I have consulted with some doctors online and only Scott Boden in person. Most of them said I was a good candidate except for Dr. Pekiner. Now, Dr. Pekiner has a lot of credibility on this website and I would trust he would tell me the truth and the others may have more reason to lie as they want my money. 

Hi Guys,

So quick update...Dr. Pekiner agreed and thought I wasnt a good candidate..but Dr. Scott Boden who did a consultation in person said I was. Would it be worth it to go to Dr. Dorin to get a second in person opinion?

On 11/3/2019 at 1:06 AM, Sean said:

You can get screwed by a known doc in North America or a doc in Turkey.   It doesnt matter if you pay more or less.  What matters is a doctors ethics on how he will approach your case, or what they suggest, what is there surgical protocol etc.  If you do decide to get this done by a doc from here or Turkey, let any doctor you go to know the following: I am using my full rights to post everything about this procedure with you on forums as you are working on virgin scalp and it will be good documentation for everyone, then see how many are confident in their procedure and how many turn you away.  You will realize a lot of truth.
 

This industry isnt really strongly built upon strong ethics, very few docs possess patient safety or safely working on a patient.  Very few docs will refund if there is a screw up, very few will try to do a repair.  Everything sounds good when they try to get you in the chair and then talk showcase result with you but when shit hits the fan, they try to distance or get assistance from folks online or previous patients to try to discredit you and etc.  you have to be around many years to see this and read hundreds of thousands of posts and responses and behavior patterns.
 

Id try to see if meds can stabilize and you do not want to implant between weaker native hair, you can end up with permanent shockloss.  My donor developed patches due to compressed extractions etc., Recipient zone was heavily scarred limiting blood flow and causing myriad of issues.  I am still struggling and some folks are trying to shortchange me while some including officials realize there is a genuine issue with the entire ordeal.  
 

as an ongoing harmed repair patient, i urge you to tread this path very carefully.  I had more native hairs then you before i started My journey but now i am in 10 times worse shape.  The last thing id want is a person to go in and end up with scarring and harm.  You should get in person consults in NY to see what docs say.  
 

This is not want you want to end up with— that front thin looking zone is a supposed high density recipient zone via fue-  look at this fake looking hairline and wack ass angulation- skim scarring and slight discoloration due to ridging and pitting-  it killed native hairs and you can see the natural non transplant hairs behind the frontal recipient zone

Best of luck to you

Who did you go with? I will learn from your direction and make sure to spread the word about whatever doctor screwed you over.

Hey guys! Quick update..I reached out to Dr. Pekiner and being the great doctor that he is, told me that I did not have a suitable donor area based on the photos that I provided. However, Dr. Scott Boden who I had a consultation with in person stated I was an excellent candidate back in March. Now I need help in making a decision. I am thinking of going for another consultation with Dr. Dorin in NY to see if he also believes I am an excellent candidate or not, or just going off of Dr. Scott Boden's recommendation. IF I go to a consultation with Dr. Dorin and he says that my donor area is good, I was thinking of potentially relaying this message to Dr. Pekiner and still getting it done in Turkey. If that is not a good idea, then I will have to decide between Dr. Dr. Dorin and Dr. Boden. 

Dr. Boden I met in person, seems really nice and even did the hair of some guy who was on the bachelorette. He is also featured on IAHRS.org, but it doesn't seem like many people know him on this website. Dr. Dorin is way more well known on this website, but I have obviously not met him before. What do you guys think based on the information I'm giving you? 

Really appreciate the help and like I said I have felt so lonely in this process, it really helps to have people looking out for me and willing to talk to me about it. 

Thank you all for the help and advice. Since my hair loss began 4 years ago, I have really felt super alone in this whole process. I wouldn't speak about it to literally anyone besides my fiance and occasionally my mother. I would never bring it up to my best friends, and whenever hair loss was discussed amongst my friends, family, or coworkers I would stay quiet and wait for the conversation to end. I want you guys to know that I have been thinking about doing this for a while, not just because I'm getting married in a year. I went for a consultation and heard nothing about my donor area being too thin, so hopefully Dr. Pekiner in Turkey will feel the same. I understand that one should not think about budget, but you have to when it's this amount of money. Obviously I would never want to go cheaper and achieve poor results, but there has to be doctors out there who are just as good and are significantly cheaper than ones in the US. I think Dr. Pekiner may be just that so I will see what he has to say. 

So I went to Dr. Scott Boden for a consultation back in March and he said I would need between 1700-1800 grafts. Said I had a good donor area. I think I might go to Dr. Pekiner. He seems really awesome and is budget friendly for me. I am definitely worried about flying to Turkey and am worried about if something health wise goes wrong that I won't have the type of care that I would in the US. If anyone can assure me there is nothing to worry about on all of my concerns I will definitely move forward with Dr. Pekiner. 

Thank you all for the help so far!

Have you guys heard of Dr. Andrade from Madrid? Or EstePera from Turkey? Two places abroad I've put research into and have found great reviews but don't fully trust..

Guys, remember I have gotten my haircut right before taking these photos and the barber gave me a 1 on the side. Besides, isn't the back of the my head where the donor area is?

Also, is it worth saving a couple thousand on going abroad to Europe or staying in the US? Can anybody help me on the pros and cons of both? Also, any thoughts on how to best research doctors? Seems like a simple google search doesnt always work.

9 hours ago, transplantedphil said:

If youre in NY i wouldnt hesitate to get a consult with Bloxham who I find both incredibly engaged and honest.

Judging by your pics though there seems to be quite serious thinning in your donor; the region above the ears suggests retrograde alopecia but you might even have DUPA which needs to be assessed properly before you could even be considered a candidate for surgery.

Sadly not everyone is a candidate for a hair transplant; 

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55074-dr-charles-answers-whether-you-can-have-a-hair-transplant-with-dupa/?tab=comments#comment-519671

Also please don't let price or geography dictate your decision .... its a serious surgery and rushing into things may only leave you with a (permanent) bad result

Good luck sir

I definitely don’t think I have DUPA, as you can see with my next two pictures that wouldn’t upload last night. I also had just gotten my haircut and I usually go 1 mm on the sides, not sure if that makes a difference. How much does a transplant typically Cost per graft with dr. Bloxham? Appreciate the help on this. I was considering Dr. Scott Boden. There was some poor reviews on him just being unknown back in 2012 but he seemed great when I met him and is listed on the IAHRS. 

Just now, Abi28 said:

Yup, Demirsoy does about 70% of the procedure, Dr Pekiner does everything, I would suggest Pekiner from personal experience, they have a lot of experience and some of the best in the world, don't be afraid of going to turkey man, it's cheap and it won't cost you much, I have been there multiple times, it's a beautiful country.

I appreciate the help. How much does Dr. Pekiner charge per graft for an FUE? 

How much do they charge per graft for FUE?

On 9/23/2019 at 2:56 PM, RecessionProof said:

The only people in the area I’d bother consulting with are True & Dorin, Bloxham, and Carlos Wesley.

I think charging for a consult is probably more common in New York than other regions — you may want to do some virtual consultations with docs in other areas, as many of the top people will do it for free.

3 minutes ago, Abi28 said:

Judging by your hair loss you are going to need between 2500-3000 grafts, 5k won't get you anything in the US, you need at least 15k.

Who told you turkey is dangerous? lol that's funny, go to turkey and save your money, I would suggest Dr Pekiner or if you are looking for cheaper alternative Dr Demirsoy. Contact both of them for a consultation, good luck.

Do both of those doctors perform the surgeries themselves? 

How much was the FUT compared to the FUE per graft?

Hi Guys,

I have been struggling with hair loss for about 4 years now and I have decided to make a change. I want to get a hair transplant, with two conditions. I only want it done once, and I cant spend a ridiculous amount on it. Im thinking more in the $5k range. I live in New York, and am undecided on two options. I am considering Dr. Scott Boden, who I met and liked but is a little pricey, or going to Madrid with a gentleman named Dr. Juan Andrade. I would ideally like to go somewhere in the US, but it needs to be affordable. Is it worth it to go to Europe, or are there affordable great doctors in the US? Any affordable great ones in NY? I also don't want to go to Turkey as I am worried it's a little too dangerous..

Please, I need some help. I have my wedding in Nov 2020 and I cant look bald then.

Thanks everyone, I have never openly spoke about this to anyone but my fiancé.