zach0786

3 minutes ago, jj51702 said:

A lot of those doctors are still recommended on this forum. Many of those doctors don’t post results much here. Some of them dropped off because they probably didn’t think the price was worth it for them to be recommended on this site.

 

my personal opinion is...a lot of these doctors talked about here nowadays have dedicated marketing teams and patient coordinators that scour these boards and answer questions as well as post results which gets noticed. Obviously the price is another consideration. I think that’s a big driver in terms of why bisanga and cole opened up their clinic in Greece- less cost and more access to the European/middle eastern pool of patients. Lastly, in terms of results, many of the doctors outside of North America are closing the gap.

All valid points. However, what about lack of regulations like we have here, liability laws, etc?

Does that not give anyone pause? Or is money such a huge factor that it overrides all those concerns?

Once again, none of this is meant to denigrate the foreign surgeons/clinics. Just trying to get a feel for this surge towards overseas surgeries, and the almost complete lack of any presence of the U.S surgeons on these forums.

I have been following this forum for a while.

There was a time when this forum was filled with discussions about North American HT surgeons, like Feller, Dorin, Epstein, Glenn Charles, Hasson & Wong.

I get that competition has increased and many of these international surgeons work for a fraction of what a U.S surgeon would charge. But, does that really warrant this kind of disparity?

From what i see, better than 95% of the topics are about international HT surgeons. 

Just curious, that's all. No disrespect or offence intended.

22 hours ago, det9925 said:

Youve got the right idea but just keep in mind somtimes you catch docs when they are busy or tired from surgery so dont base everything off of the consol.

Consult, pictures, feedback from this site. I am using all of that. Really trying to do my due diligence before a big, life altering, decision.

All the comments, feedback and other help greatly appreciated.

As i stated at the onset of this thread, i had a skype consult with Dr. Wong and felt very good about it.

However, after waiting this long, a video consult just wont cut it. Plus, i am curious to meet Dr. Hasson also, and he doesn't do video consults.

Booked a consult with both. Flying from New York. Their rep, Chris, was very helpful in working with me so i could see them both same day.

I have no doubt Dr. Konior is great, and we have emailed back and forth, but the guy is just so freaking busy. Getting a consult can be hard enough. I haven't closed that door, but leaning towards H & W, unless i get a really bad vibe after the in person consults.

Wish me luck:-)

Is it a common consensus on this site that Dr. Hasson's results are significantly better and consistent than those of Dr. Wong.

Bismarck had mentioned that and made me curious.

Of the two, who is better at mega sessions?

On 7/11/2019 at 9:49 AM, HassonandwongUK said:

Hello zach 

 

I am a former patient of Dr Wong. I am also the uk patient advisor for H&W. If you would like to talk i am here to help. 

My email is Rob@hassonandwong.com

Dr Wong 

Sent you an email

9 hours ago, bismarck said:

Hasson is extremely consistent, Wong is good but not quite at Hasson's level. Probably one of the most consistent active clinics for FUT in the entire world.

That's actually very interesting. 

Based purely on pictures on this site, i thought Dr. Wong had more jaw dropping results. 

13 hours ago, AssaultedByDHT said:

H&W is great if you're rich. They are top notch. Of course, there are other reputable doctors that do great jobs at a much lower cost.

Actually, I think H & W are about average when it comes to money in this area. Dr. Konior is what i would consider extremly expensive, but based on his results, probably worth it .

14 hours ago, Greg_Swanson said:

I definitely understand the tech versus minimal tech involvement, but at the end of the day, no one can argue how incredibly consistent H&W's work is. I don't know if people can really say there are much better alternatives, I thought it was pretty well accepted that H&W are amongst the elite of the elite.

Were you going with FUE or FUT? 

 

FUT. I already have a scar from a previous surgery, so don't see the point in FUE.

From what i hear, Dr. Wong is great in maximizing donor hair, which is what i am hoping to accomplish.

10 minutes ago, RecessionProof said:

I was in this position a year or two ago and decided the wait was worth it. The way I saw it, Konior's hands on approach made the odds of a home run result just a little bit higher. But it's probably something like a 98% chance vs 99.9% -- even though H&W use technicians and book multiple surgeries per day, they are widely considered to be one of the best clinics in the world.

Waiting a year is frustrating, but keep in mind a hair transplant affects the way you look for the rest of your life.

Good way to put it. Small difference, but every bit matters. 

Did you end up going with Dr. Konior? 

I called his office, he even schedules the consults himself. Very unusual, but hands-on from beginning to finish, apparently. I have decided to have a consult with Dr. Konior, and depending on how that goes, i think i am open to waiting a year or so.

You are right. Just called his office and Konior wait time is almost a year.

I don't mind waiting if the difference between Dr. Wong and Dr. Konior is that significant, but my question is, is it really that huge a difference between the results?

Worth waiting a year, possibly even longer?

2 minutes ago, Payam said:

I wouldn't go for this clinic if the surgeon isn't deeply involved in every single step of the surgery. If you have done your research you will see clearly that these types have nearly a 100% success rate, you will very rarely see a shit result from guys like Cuoto, Konior or Pinto because they are all extremely meticulous and involved in every single step of the surgery, their surgical protocol is vastly superior to the tech run clinics. 

Don't be stupid and try to save money, if it's an all or nothing type deal then the only name I would ever consider would be Konior, after that either Nadimi or Couto or Pinto if you are willing to wait several years. 

several years? is that the wait time for these doctors?

After doing some more research, I agree with those of you who said they don't put too much weight into the certifications when it comes to this particular field.

Certain fields like internal medicine and cardiology "require" certifications. That's not the case with hair transplants.

Besides, Dr. Wong received an award from ISHRS, and his results overall are astounding. I read a couple bad reviews, but that's not uncommon even with the best doctors.

i am going back and forth between Dr. Wong and Dr. Konior. Konior does everything himself, from what i have heard. I think Wong has technicians, which is the common practice in most places. For about 3,000 grafts, i would be paying about $6,000 more with Konior.

Tough one.

6 hours ago, Zaagirad said:

I had a great experience with Dr. Hasson for 6200 FUT in April.

Single session ? i would be lucky if i get half that number.

Do you have a thread of your progress?

58 minutes ago, HassonandwongUK said:

Hello zach 

 

I am a former patient of Dr Wong. I am also the uk patient advisor for H&W. If you would like to talk i am here to help. 

My email is Rob@hassonandwong.com

Dr Wong 

Thanks, will send you an email and maybe we can speak. I am in New York, btw.

15 hours ago, CosmoKramer said:

Hi

Maybe check out Joe Tillman’s YouTube channel as I recently watched his vlog of his latest HT with Dr Wong, although, I’m not sure how biased Tillman is re: Dr Wong and if is a paid/sponsored rep for him.

Thanks for that, always little worried about taking recommendations from paid spokespersons even though they were former patients.

Hi, i am about to book a procedure with Dr. Wong.

Would greatly appreciate if there are any guys who have had procedures done by Dr. Wong and are willing to talk on phone.

If you are in new york and are willing to meet, coffee and pastries are on me:-)

Much appreciated.

Thanks

Looks like Hasson is a member of ISHRS but DR. Wong isn't. Although he received a golden follicle award from ISHRS in 2011.

Is being a member of ISHRS really that big a deal?

I looked into Dr. Konior. Amazing results, but too expensive.

Is it true that he is one of the few surgeons who does the implants in the recipient area himself? Most others use technicians.

I recently had a skype interview with Dr. Wong. Nice guy, made me feel at ease, said all the right things.

I felt comfortable with him, and am pretty close to booking a procedure with him. I recently googled H & W, and quite a few horror stories online. Stories about patients being double booked, surgeons disappearing during procedures, aggressive sales tactics. 

This is my second, and most probably, last procedure. Not sure if i will recover if i botch this by selecting the wrong surgeon. Been there, done that. 

I need some advice from all the wonderful people here. How are Hasson and Wong viewed in the hair transplant community? Am i in good hands? 

Should i stick to someone in the States?

Thanks. Really counting on some feedback.