Anthonyd

I can’t argue with anything you have said In that post, I hope you get things sorted going forward, all the best 

If it was just out of them two, I think I would go with Bisanga. Both good surgeons, but when I was looking, I found most uk surgeons to be a lot more conservative in the number of grafts used, and hair line designs.Dr Ball’s quote was about 1800, well on your level of loss that wouldn’t give you any density! And a very conservative hairline. Dr bisanga’s quote of 4000 is more realistic.however even at that number  I think you would possibly need another transplant for full density in the crown.

Best of luck whoever you choose 

Only 1080 grafts, looking good Uncle Drew, Looks quite dense for that amount!

 Heal Well👍 And stay hydrated.

Im sorry,  but have you got the before and afters mixed up? because the before looks so much better!!

In the second picture, he actually does look like he has thinning of the hairline. Like other members have said this guy has hair that most guys would kill for, and the Dr should never of accepted  him as a patient. I am truly gob smacked, “significant diffuse thinning” are you serious? Well he has now. Sorry to be so brutal but what a complete waste of this guys money. As a senior member Bill and a very well respected one at that, I’m very surprised and disappointed in your comments, no matter how nice you think he is. This was a poor decision in my opinion to do this transplant, and wasted 1800 grafts that the guy might genuinely need, further on in life!

Rant over 😤

18 minutes ago, LaserCap said:

the doctor made 1200 sites but they were only able to harvest 1083.

So what did they do?

I’m not 100% sure what you are asking, but I think this may help. So this patient had 2500grafts extracted. So there will be only 2500 incisions made in the recipient area, but the patient will have had 5625 hairs in total planted. This equates to an average of 2.25 hairs per graft .

All clinics will have charts/white boards with this information on for you to see.👍simples!

Surely it depends on the method of extraction, if it’s manual then yes, two days. However if it’s motorised then 2500 is not a lot for a Doc to do in a day. You have already stated that he won’t be planting the grafts.

On 8/27/2019 at 9:54 AM, MrZennie said:

It would be a FUE procedure.  And it's a top doctor who does the extractions (no Artas) and incisions

 There are so many top surgeons doing 4000 plus grafts in one sitting, using motorised method, with great results.if it was me and it’s motorised, there is no way I would sit for two days. If it’s Manual extraction, then yes I would sit for two days as it is a lot more tedious.

13 hours ago, akc said:

 

Hi HRN Members/experts,

> Need your help treating pus-filled, painful, itchy pimples/bumps on my scalp
> Using Minoxidil 10 once daily (can't apply minoxidil 5 twice due to odd office working hours that's why using 10 instead once daily with Finestride 1 mg tablet
> Applying coconut oil 2-3 times weekly

*Upon doctor's recommendation, used T-bact 2% Ointment (Mupirocin 2%), but didn't get result
*Also, used Ketoconazole 2% shampoo twice weekly but didn't help

Need your help treating my scalp pimples as it has increased my hair loss. I tried reducing minoxidil application from daily to alterate days, but that has increased hair loss.

Request your help treating my scalp pimples.

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Have a look at HIBISCRUB it has incredible reviews for lots of skin conditions, you just have to get the right dilution for whatever your using it for. From acne, to athletes foot, to folliculitis.  look at the reviews on Amazon, hope you get it sorted.

 Normally one of the technicians stands next to the Doc/tech with a hand held tally clicker, or whatever they use,  and counts every time he/she makes an incision. The same applies with extraction process I think. So this should tally up with the number of grafts previously extracted. Obviously if the Doc is using the implanter pen method, then as long as there are no grafts left in the Petri dishes, you’re pretty much guaranteed that all the grafts have been planted.😂👍

Hope this helps.

That’s why, when you look at the really dense hairlines, a lot of them are done with the DHI method. Is that why we are seeing some sub-par hairline results from some of the big clinics? ( not mentioning any names ) Is it because they are trying to cram in too many grafts using lateral incisions method? 

Sorry this doesn’t help the op, but it’s worth discussing maybe on another thread.

5 minutes ago, Guy73 said:

 

Looks like he packed out the front to aggressively for the first go. Even if he lost his native hair the front should look better then that looking at the pictures and how dense he tried to get the frontal hairline. I would say this is partly the doctor’s fault. He should take into account a realistic number of grafts per sq cm on the first procedure. Sure higher is better but a greater risk of not all the grafts surviving. Doctors never take the blame it’s bad for business but I call it how I see it

 

Interesting!! 

I agree to a certain extent, that’s why I was curious to see what the Docs think.

On 8/19/2019 at 6:29 PM, dredd77 said:

Dr. Kaan said that the reason of such result is that I did not take finasteride/minoxidil,

I’m a big fan of dr Kaan and his work, but this is absolute  nonsense, if his existing hair had fallen out then I would agree. But it is clear from the photos the hairline was lowered and temples were filled in. Let’s not forget here guys, we are looking at 3500 grafts in total.This could be just one of those unlucky patients that, for, whatever reason the majority of grafts have just not survived. 

I would be interested if some of the  Dr’s on this forum gave their professional  opinion. I really feel for you dredd77 

All the best.

Ok, that makes sense, you stated Dr Clinic in your post😉

I think the op has done his research and narrowed it down to these two Docs. Yes there are lots of clinics in Turkey, but not that many that have only one patient a day, and that does the extractions/incisions within his budget. So let’s assume the op has done his due diligence, and give our opinions on who he has asked us to. Otherwise everybody will be chipping in with Different Clinic suggestions, and the op Will be none the wiser in his decision.

Faridharoon, sorry can you confirm who you chose was it Dr Cinik?

I’m booked in with Dr Demirsoy on the 4th sept, I made this decision after trawling all the forums to read through patients experiences and to check the final results. Here’s a couple of photos off his website that convinced me of his quality. I’m a bit surprised by Dr Demirsoy quoting a thousand more grafts than Meddeb. He doesn’t normally overuse grafts, so that would concern me a little with Dr Meddeb evaluation. But without seeing photos we can’t really give an opinion, but worth you thinking about!

Anyway best of luck whoever you choose.

Looking forward to seeing your results.

Hi Uncle Drew,

Great choice of Doc, I think you have made the right decision going with Dr Pekiner. when I was researching extensively,  he was in my top three. Will it be done over a few days? Do you know roughly how many grafts?

Best of luck👍

On 8/8/2018 at 8:41 PM, BigBen said:

Koray Erdogan is the person who should do the incisions during the surgery and I asked about this because a patient told me the day before that a girl did the incisions

So are you saying Dr Erdogan did or didn’t do your incisions? But you are saying  a patient told you a technician had done his, is this not alarming guys? Surely this isn’t acceptable, if it proves to be the case.

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On 8/8/2019 at 7:14 PM, Gasthoerer said:

 

Is it possible to see some pre-op (with marked recipient) and directly intra op pics? I struggle to understand what is transplanted and what natural hair.

 

I totally agree with this comment, you need to provide photos before surgery with pen markings to the recipient, so that members can see exactly where the 2841 grafts have been planted. Having said that, if you zoom in on your post-op photos there are clear gaps between the hair follicles, especially on your left side. So are we looking at bad planting, or graft survival. Either way, yet again another poor hairline from this clinic imo.

But we do need the photos to make a proper judgment.

Congrats on your HT

I personally think the hairline is spot on, and suits your face, and think some of the hairlines from this clinic can be too aggressive if anything.

also don’t forget, your head is swollen at the moment so it will look higher, and will drop about a 1cm roughly. Best of luck on your journey,

exciting times ahead!

On 5/29/2019 at 5:52 PM, jonathande said:

I wish I had gone with a more experienced surgeon and will be more careful with research next time.

I’m sorry your not happy with your results after three years, however I can’t understand why you can’t get hold of the clinic photos to show your situation before surgery.

 But are you serious with the above quote?  Dr Demirsoy has been doing HT for 15 years+ Which your research would of told you, and I will echo what the other members have said, it is rare to find bad results. Look at his before/after photos on his site, YouTube, forums( especially international). 

On 5/29/2019 at 11:24 PM, jonathande said:

Apprently his nurses may not have had the focus during my surgery or graft died due to bad processes. 

Who has said this? 😂😂 you or the clinic, sorry I find this absurd.

On 5/29/2019 at 5:52 PM, jonathande said:

I wish I had gone with a more experienced surgeon and will be more careful with research next time.

I’m sorry your not happy with your results after three years, however I can’t understand why you can’t get hold of the clinic photos to show your situation before surgery.

 But are you serious with the above quote?  Dr Demirsoy has been doing HT for 15 years+ Which your research would of told you, and I will echo what the other members have said, it is rare to find bad results. Look at his before/after photos on his site, YouTube, forums( especially international). 

On 5/29/2019 at 11:24 PM, jonathande said:

Apprently his nurses may not have had the focus during my surgery or graft died due to bad processes. 

Who has said this? 😂😂 you or the clinic, sorry I find this absurd.

Looking great so far Isam, I’m booked in with Dr Erkan on the 4th September, his work is always so clean and considering you had over 4000 grafts taken out, your donor area looks mint at this early stage.  Having said that, the recipient area looks great also. He’s a very underrated surgeon in my opinion with great ethics, as I know he turns down some patients, so it’s not all about the money!! I look forward to seeing your progress.

All the best.