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Dr Charles answer to the patient was patetic. 

There is no way he implanted 3.300 graft. 

This forum should have a surgeon black list with this doctor topping the list

11 hours ago, im_not_a_robot said:

I think he seems reasonably priced. I paid about 2,68 euros per graft, 5900 euros for 2200 grafts

Thank you. As expected very expensive. Top clinics in Portugal and Spain have quoted me less like 2.4

Do you think you can share the cost of the transplant please ?

I have considered him however he does not go over 2.8K normally and is extremely expensive. 

Thank you 

On 2/2/2022 at 4:06 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

Dr. Bicer is not dodgy at all. I actually told her she should raise her costs. She was even cheaper. In my opinion, doctors who do the work should charge at least €3 per graft.  She’s so caring for her patients, 2 per graft is a bargain. 

Because in your opinion higher price means higher quality ?

What difference would make if she charges 1 Euro per graft ? Nothing. So the only people losing out from your suggestion is us.

Thank you . 

I think the clinic should stop taking new/evaluations/booking and clear the backlog first. 

I am not sure how good for someone can be wait months and months for an evaluation and years for a transplant. 

On 1/19/2022 at 3:14 PM, JDEE0 said:

You're just straight up fear-mongering here with baseless claims and ridiculous comparisons; why?

No, every doctor certainly will not tell you to avoid taking finasteride. Sure, 'if you can', the vast would say it's better to do nothing than take a hormone altering drug indefinitely, but the whole purpose of the drug is to help those experiencing negative consequences to quality of life from hairloss by stopping or slowing it down drastically. For most losing their hair who are bothered about it, it's the only real option, and without fin, this problem will worsen and continue. As such, it is recommended by many doctors across the world to those it can help, without any issue at all... there are quite literally tens of millions of prescriptions written and renewed for fin every year for the drug, so I'm not sure why you're claiming this.

You also have absolutely no right to claim that 'side effects are tremendous in the long run' - according to what and who exactly? Side effects are definitely real and definitely do happen in a low percentage of overall users, and they need to be considered and known of before deciding to use the drug. But, as I say, all of the actual literature published in respectable, peer reviewed journals consistently concludes the same thing time and time again: that finasteride is a very safe well tolerated drug in the majority of people. More than this, it shows that side effects go away completely upon stopping the drug if they do appear in the first place. 

Apart from the fact it's just completely ridiculous to compare smoking to finasteride, you're insinuating that side effects accumulate or build up over a long long time and then rear their head later on down the line. Again, all the literature shows the opposite in that side effects usually show up fairly quickly and then get better with time. In terms of the usual side effects related to low libido/sex drive and neurological issues such as brain fog, why would it even make sense for these issues to commonly arise years and years down the line when the downstream effects of blocking 5ar happen pretty much instantly? Your DHT will be fully crashed in weeks, any potential inhibition of neurosteroids and the like as a result will also consequently take place in the same time frame. So, pretty much, in a matter of months, your body will already have been operating in this altered state for quite some time and have been deprived of X, Y and Z during this period - it really makes no logical sense that the effects of such things would build up slowly. If I blocked Testosterone, Estrogen or any other hormone in my body, the effects would be noticed very quickly, not slowly and gradually. This is obviously very well documented.

Now, as far as could there be any potential implications way, way down the line that we don't know of, or currently unknown issues that could slowly develop such as what OP is asking about here? Sure. Who really knows, the drug has only been around for less than 30 years. That's still a really long time with hundreds of millions of long term users and lots of resulting data, so whilst we do have a pretty good idea that it is safe in the long term, maybe using it for 40 or 50 years straight could cause some issues, I admit we don't know the answer to this for certain. But you're going on as if this is a documented thing that's going to happen, when the exact opposite is true. Your comparisons are just silly and do nothing but provoke fear in people looking to sort their hair loss out.

It's not a gamble to trust in modern medicine and scientific data from robust clinical trials and studies. I understand its not for everyone and I wish we had a better non systemic option of course, but posts like yours are just straight up pointless as there is no substance to what you say. None of it is backed up by anything other than whatever anecdotes you've read online.

 

I did not compare smoking with taking Fin.

That was an example which could have been with alcohol, sugar, fizzy drinks or something else. 

Ho come you did not get that?

But if you did not get that I can assume you would not get the meaning of my post hence your long dissertation about something we all know. 

The meaning of my post (again) was that you can take Fin for many years and nothing happen or have the worst side effects after few years. 

It is up to the individual to take the risk. That's all. 

My doctor has strongly recommended not to take Fin so did other doctors I spoke to and other surgeons on here said the same.  

People are free to take their own risk. I would not personally. That is my opinion you are free to advise people otherwise. 

Not extremely complicated to understand ?

Well, every doctor will tell you to avoid taking Fin if you can. the Side effects are tremendous in the long run. 

Having said that I can make you a very simple example. 

Does smoke kill? Everyone will answer straight away saying "YES" However the real answer is " probably " 

People who has smoked for 50 years never had any symptoms other a lung cancer after few years of cigarettes. 

Nobody knows how your body is going to react however the side effects of smoking and Fin are well documented and scary. 

You can gamble and see what happen. I would not. 

Interesting, it looks like a birth mark but obviously is not. 

I see the scars caused by the extractor machine are quite big therefore as already suggested the blood capillaries might have been damaged 

Another explanation could be an allergic reaction caused by the shampoo or other products you have used/taken post op.

You  really need to see a dermatologist

Thank you Newyear definitely something to look at however I hoped I could find Redensyl  as apparently works better than Minoxidil and maybe use them together or with stemoxydine. 

Hi guys 

Hope this is the correct section as Redensyl might fall under the Herbal medications

I am not a fun of Fin due to its potential devastating side effects tried Minoxidil but I had some strange side effects so I was thinking to try Redensyl however I cannot find any product online. 

The percentage in the product should be 3% for it to be effective however the only one I have found is Man Matters Tonic a bit difficult to get hold. 

If anyone can help would be appreciated, I am in UK by the way and thinking of getting a HT at some point this year or the next one and posting my review. 

On 11/29/2021 at 7:12 AM, ASMEDMANUALFUE said:

We are always supportive to all our patients and we will continue doing the same. During the post operational part there are the difficult stages and we are there to provide support to everyone.

 

Apparently you have not been very supportive so far.. 

We would have expected a different answer like " Very sorry please get in touch and we will fix it .. for free " 

7100 grafts look like too much. Was that performed in one session ? I do not think the guy needed 7100 grafts. Also with that amount the result should have been more dense and consistence especially at the back. Unless half of what has been transplanted have been lost. 

@Rdasilva604: Not sure what you looked like before the HT but you are full of hair. Not sure what your issue could possible be. The majority of people on this forum (me included) would only dream to have the amount of hair you got.