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I personally think you should make some sort of apology to the Medikemos rep myself. I think they had every right to ask you to back any statements up and I didn't think they were being aggressive at all. If you're going to slur the clinic, then they have a right of reply.

 

Also thinking you're an 'authority' on hair transplants because you've been a patient a few times kind of undermines the people who are living and breathing this stuff every single day in a clinic. They are the authority and experts. You've made judgments and assumptions on that clinic on an extremely small subset of cases they've worked on.

I'm not going to go into great detail on this as this whole crazy issue has been resolved thankfully. I will simply say it was actually his wording and taking offense with me expressing my honest opinion that was part of setting things off in motion.

He did mention on several occasions basically that I was not entitled to the opinion I held.

I believe Bill has deleted the interaction or is going to so I will leave it at that.

Actually I was going to delete the particular pertinent comments regarding the root cause of the disabled account (the thread is locked unfortunately so I cannot do that), but the rest of his post was attacking my opinion so I do not have intention of changing that.

"I can say with authority" is a strong way of expressing things. You can read into that what you want.

Anyway thanks to Bill, Webmaster and the forum overall for taking care of this.

Happier and hairier days to all :cool:

Hsrp,

 

Wait a second here… I have no recollection of disabling your account at all. Is it possible that your email address that’s associated with this account has expired or no longer is operational? That would get your account temporarily disabled until we are contacted in order to change your email address. Before making assumptions why not send a private message or email an administrator and ask the question? Why don’t you send me a private message using this account and let’s get this straightened out.

 

Bill

Hi Bill.

This was really a case of bizarre timing of several events that just added up in the wrong direction.

I now understand what had happened.

Thank you and Webmaster for clearing up things.

Removing my comments on this topic.

In hindsight, I agree that I should have given you and the forum the benefit of the doubt.

I have already justified my position, actually I did so clearly and concisely in my first post.

You can see scalp with dry hair in the frontal third of a patient of yours in photos. Seeing scalp when hair is wet or cut short is something that is perhaps plausible.

But not with long hair in photos, photos add more density than what is actually there. So it is a red flag to look for when analyzing hair restoration results.

I can say that with authority based on my long years of experience as a multiple HT patient with elite surgeons Dr. Konior, Dr. Hasson and Dr. Bisanga and also through several decades of research and information gathering.

You can try to argue with me and waste your time, but these are my honest and frank opinions which are meant to help other hair loss sufferers.

You repeatedly and aggressively attempting to make strong rebuttals about my opinion has now raised a red flag about your clinic I had not previously been aware of.

And also please stop dismissing under the rug KO's results with Dr. Lupanzula

He is not a satisfied patient. It bothers me a great deal that you waste so much effort debating with me but never added one word about his case nor condolences to him that it didn't work out well for him.

In summary, the users and veteran members of this forum are not the ones who have to prove anything, and should be free to post their experiences without being attacked by clinic reps.

Your comment on page 1:

I bring this question to you because you have made it a point to make this statement on more than one occasion and frankly, we believe it is unwarranted.

It is your aggressive rebuttal attempt targeting a forum user's honest opinion and experience - if you read what I wrote I mentioned it was also based on my personal experience with Dr. Bisanga - and then now your second long-winded reply that is actually one of the major causes that raised concern.

As a multiple HT veteran and based on KO's experience recorded on this forum, I would never choose Dr. Lupanzula if seeking superior high-end density results.

That is my expert opinion based on many long years of experience and also based on the direct story of KO as relayed on this forum.

You cannot heavy hand forum users into changing their mind.

Actually letting people speak their honest opinion without aggressive replies would give your clinic a better image, there is no need to be overly defensive.

Hey man,

 

Before going 'scorched earth', see what the mods say. I know you're angry but wait and see.

There has been nothing reaching "scorched earth," at least not on my part, and there is rather great concern here and I would say any anger would be on the other side as I'm reading the comments.

My account as hsrp10 has been "disabled by the administrator" and my last activity was making my above comment on page 1 of this thread.

After that I was addressed and called out for out for my honest comments.

I am posting the facts as they happen.

If someone logged into Bill's account (he is the administrator here) and in a rogue manner disabled my account, then that is one explanation.

Otherwise the facts stand as they are.

I would go with Bisanga based on personal experience and also based on a veteran poster's experience with the other doc. He is decent but am seeing issues with him producing solid density results (seeing bare scalp in images for example).

Quoting once again above what I wrote in my original post in it's original form.

Nowhere did I even mention Dr. Lupanzula's name so my comment is not even searchable.

If the clinic is so angered and pissed off that a veteran HRN member and multiple time patient is stating his honest opinion - to the point someone complained to have a long standing account disabled - then there is something seriously wrong here.

You cannot force people to like the work of a doctor through coercion.

I am not impressed with the level of density produced and neither is forum member KO.

Disable all the accounts you wish, but that will not change the truth.

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Note from Admin: we have responded to this topic on page 2, but I felt it necessary to post a reply directly on the original topic and post so people including the original poster understand. Recently, we have sent a newsletter where a number of email addresses returned delivery failures. As a result, we decided to disable accounts that did not have a valid email address because we figured, anybody who is active would obviously email boss letting us know that their account has been disabled and ask why. We would then check it out, get their new email address and reenable it. This is the only way that we can update email addresses because well, we don’t have an updated email address to email them about it. This is also necessary, because too many bounced emails result in us getting blacklisted and none of our emails will go out to anybody. This is a major problem.

Now, I am pretty sure that this is the case here although I want to investigate it so I ask that the original poster send me a private message with this new account so we can check. In the meantime, more detailed reply to some of the accusations made in this post can be found on page 2.

This was a case of the bizarre timing of several events that just added up in the wrong direction.

I now understand what had happened.

Thanks to Bill and Webmaster for clearing up things.

Removing my comments on this topic.

Dear HSRP10,

 

I'm curious what defines "solid density results" for you. Our presentations are about as honest and clear as one would hope, and far more so than the presentations of many of our colleagues. Perhaps you are not used to seeing the reality of hair restoration without the use of convenient angles and hairstyles or flash photography.

 

I bring this question to you because you have made it a point to make this statement on more than one occasion and frankly, we believe it is unwarranted. All things being equal, our results have no density challenges and to use "seeing scalp" as a qualifier is rather unrealistic.

 

In addition, to question our clinic based on one patient's case is less than fair considering we've been producing consistently high satisfaction rates in Europe for years. To disqualify us because of one case that is not a failure in the least would disqualify every other clinic in existence.

After being an active member on the Hair Restoration Network as hsrp10 for nearly 8 years, the administrator here suddenly disabled my account for simply posting my brief and unbiased opinion. Without so much as even a courteous PM warning.

Eight years is a long time to actively contribute to a site and be treated like that, but heck they banned Joe and others so it doesn't surprise me in the least to be honest.

I had to re-register to post my reply and set the facts straight.

My message to all is this that this site is no longer unbiased, proceed with caution going forward here. Everything is apparently controlled by greed and money.

They will disable your account or delete your posts at the slightest whim, and unbiased reviews and opinions will suffer because of that.

But it will not stop the truth from getting out - our biggest responsibility to the community and prospective patients is to protect them and share unbiased reviews without the threat of overbearing censorship.

As to the reply to the question above, here is my detailed thread a few years ago.

(you will notice I mention a great many "pros" concerning Dr. Lupanzula, and presented both sides).

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185449-dr-lupanzula-pros-cons.html

Example photos of density issues in photos (you can see the gentleman's scalp in the photos).

www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185097-dr-lupanzula-medikemos-clinic-1732-fus-manual-fue.html

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Example of long time and dedicated HRN member KO's density issues with Dr. Lupanzula.

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula-12.html