TheRealDeal23

I hope everything works out for you man. It does look better in those photos no one would really be able to notice a thing at that length. Hopefully the issue of the linear scar looking area is resolved. What did Dr. Diep say?

Just looked at them most recent photos you just posted. This hair transplant is going to be a home run. Your results are 4 months are probably as good as mine at almost 9 months. The scarring is concerning at 4 months it shouldn't look like that but hopefully it's just shock loss.

Your growth is kick ass at 4 months. You're gonna have a really nice result up front it looks like. You can make out the scars on the side and like you mentioned it sort of looks like you have a strip scar in the back. Any progress on the healing of those?

It seems like he just did your temporal points as mentioned above. Looks to be okay to me the temporal points are important in framing your face as traction alopecia can destroy them.

I'm afraid I couldn't disagree more. FUE is done a great disservice to its own reputation when it is promoted as the most state of the art or as a scarless procedure.

 

Because it is most certainly neither of those things, surgery will scar you, period.

 

FUE is wholly inappropriate for large cases in the view of many top surgeons, and any surgeon worth his salt should be able to perform both FUT and FUE, because there is a time and a place for both procedures.

Like I said for many people they get it and it's no problem and they're happy. On the other hand, some people get it and it ruins there lives. Seems to usually be one of the extremes. I'm just speaking for myself as coolboy asked which one I would opt for I would rather not get surgery at all than go FUT. This is a cosmetic procedure and there is nothing cosmetically pleasing with even the best FUT scars. You cut your hair short enough and even the casual observer will notice it. Can't say that about the best or even above average FUE scars. I've shown my friends and family pictures and videos of FUE scars at a 0 clip and they don't see anything. They don't even know what they are looking for. Yeah it's there, but to the untrained eye, which the majority of the world is, they can't spot them. Just my 2 cents though. Then again, I enjoy the option of wearing my hair short. Agree to disagree.

Although going to elite FUT specialists such as H&W or Rahal will more likely increases the chance of a satisfactory result in terms of both scar or growth yield, I agree with you that nothing is 100 percent. HT or any cosmetic surgeries itself isn't without risks in nature. If we are being conservative, prepare for the worst, in my opinion, it is the best to go for FUE instead because, in the worst situation, we might end up with a very low or even zero growth yield and a strip scar in the back of the head for the rest of life. On the other hand, FUE is less risky that you will have one less thing(scar) to worry about if the growth yield turns out to be very low.

Even the best doctors have produced some bad scars. With FUE, I seriously have trouble locating FUE scars even with the hair at a 0 guard. Even if you do locate them after scrutinizing the scalp they look cosmetically acceptable. I honestly wouldn't even be able to tell someone had FUE scars at a even at a 0 guard if I was just casually walking by someone. Now I'm not saying you should assume you can cut to a 0 with FUE, but many patients can and feel comfortable with it. FUT scars stick out like a sore thumb for many patients even at 4-5 clip. In my case I need at least a 6 or 7 guard to cover it. Nobody signs up for that shit man but it can just happen. Obviously, there is also some bad FUE results out there too and that can also be a problem that may be as difficult to deal with as a strip scar. For me personally, I would pay $100,000 cash to just reverse my FUT procedure. Take the hair back...just get this scar off my head and back to the way it was. Unfortunately, thats not how it works. There are SO many repair patients looking to get their strip scars fixed it's ridiculous which is why I cannot reccomend it to anyone. I've just talked with/connected with too many other FUT repair patients who feel they made the worst mistake of their life to vouch for the procedure. For some people they do it and they have no problems and honestly good for them. But like Sean said above it can fuck your life up especially if the scar is something you feel may concern you.

Not true.

 

And both of my Rahal scars were/are pencil-line thin. Hasson scars that I’ve seen are remarkably thin as well. These two docs do this all day, everyday man. They’re elite. World class.

 

Can you say that about Rosanelli?

I agree they are elite. If you're going FUT they are probably who you want to go with based on what I have seen. I still think that about 50% of FUT patients are unhappy. Then again not all those patients go to a Hasson and Wong or Rahal but still strip is very unpredictable.

Hi Readeal, I read some of your posts, looks like you experienced some issues with your strip scar. It is too wide and was placed too low in your donor area. I can really feel your pain. May I ask what if you have not gone to your previous Dr, would you be comfortable with the doctors I mentioned in terms of scar or you would go for FUE

Based on what I have experienced, I would never reccomend FUT to anyone. I would go for FUE. In my opinion, there is no reason to go FUT in 2017 to me it is an outdated procedure. Its hard to understand the pain of a strip scar until it is actually on your head and you come to terms with it is indeed forever. You may never get the option of cutting your hair short, a freedom that to me as I've discovered is so important and I would trade anything for. If a person has never ever cut their hair short and knows 100% they never will, then these are the doctors you would probably want to go for strip. But keep in mind every doctor has some bad scars and nothing is 100% but they do seem to be your best bet if you were hell bent on FUT. The fact that you are even asking the question "who produces a better scar" and asked about potentially going FUE let's me know the scar does worry you. You literally sound like me before I made the mistake of going FUT. I might catch some flack on here for being against FUT as everyone on here pushes their own agenda, but like I said I wouldn't reccomend it to anyone. Dont take any chances if you know the scarring might bug you. I literally was in the same position and thought "it won't happen to me if I go FUT" and I literally got one of those wide scars you see on the internet from a doctor reccomended on this site. I can never tell someone to get the same procedure that has caused me to go through what is has emotionally. I've also talked with many other patients in the same position as me and they all feel the same. Go FUE. Literally 50% of FUT patients are unhappy.

It's tought to say. Consult with them both and go with whoever you feel more comfortable with (this is important). In terms of the scar, they both produce some of the best from what I've seen. I don't think you can go wrong either way it's hard to say which one is "better"

I cannot believe this thread. The fact anyone would do this is digusting. Sanjar man you are a brave guy sharing your story like this. Your hair looks great now man from the picture you posted. This clinic can go f*** themselves and I hope you keep us updated with the lawsuit I'm rooting for you.

Keep us updated on how you resolve the issue, newjersey.

I'll let you in on a secret. No decent surgeon makes that promise, and I very much doubt Dr. Bloxham did having been trained by Dr. Feller. They can try their best to minimize scarring, but it is still unpredictable. I don't think the scars look great either, but their closure technique is solid. You don't need to talk to me about destroying a patient's life. My life has been irreversibly altered courtesy of a well known Canadian doctor's tech dismantling the back of my head. In my case, it was over harvested, I had minimal growth, chronic inflammation, and the list goes on. Dr. Bloxham repaired this patients hairline, did not over harvest, made a judgment call to harvest additional grafts safely, and gave the patient clear instructions on post op care. In fairness, I would have just opted for a standard strip. I think Dr. Feller would even agree that MFUE causes more trauma than a standard strip and I'd be reluctant to get multiple scar repairs. I think some light fue grafting and SMP is his best option and he can move on fairly easily. This isn't a failure by any stretch.

I understand that but the scar is far worse than the hair loss in my opinion. I'm not saying anything about Dr. Bloxham as a surgeon as I'm sure he is a solid one, but this is not a successful case and I just think the patient has every right to be upset. I'm sorry to hear that you have been a victim of poor hair transplantion. I'm sure you understand the distress and misery it can cause. I just believe cosmetic scarring is a part of the hair transplant procedure and if a poor result is created there, you cannot call the hair transplant successful especially if the patient feels even worse than he originally did with the hair loss. Dr. Bloxham said the patient agreed to wear his head at a number 2 minimum verbally and in writing assuring him the scarring would not be seen and that is not the case. What's done is done though and I hope they can work together to resolve the issue.

I suppose you're the type of person who demands a refund when he goes to McDonald's and gets fat after eating the food...even though they delivered on what was promised. There's a trade off. The hairline work is really quite good. Scarring is unpredictable, and Dr Bloxham hasn't been disengenuous at all. This is not the type of case where a refund is warranted because the patient looks markedly better than his before photos. Perhaps a free scar repair or some grafting / smp is in order. But a total refund is absolutely insane.

"Even though they delivered on what was promised" what was promised was a 2 guard cut without the scar being noticeable and that is not the case. The scar is still noticeable. Promising something of this sort should have not been done in the first place since like you said scarring is unpredictable. Thats a mistake on the surgeons part. The fact that scars are often overlooked because now you have hair in the front is what's largely wrong with the hair transplant industry. I understand there is trade offs but the scar shouldn't overshadow the whole procedure. A successful procedure includes cosmetically acceptable scars. That is in no way cosmestically acceptable. A refund is not "insane". The patient is the one that has to live with this disfiguring scar the rest of his life. Free scar repair at the minimum.

That, in my opinion, is not an acceptable scar and the doctors response to it shocking. While I get surgeries can have unexpected results and don't always go according to planned, the doctor should own up to the fact that this is one of those cases and that is not an acceptable result. If the scar is noticeable at a 2 guard when you were promised it shouldn't be, that is just plain wrong. That promise should not have been made. Even if it is "slightly noticeable" it's not acceptable. Some doctors have no sympathy to how difficult and distressing it is to deal with scars and play it off as well "there is always going to be some scarring" or "just grow your hair longer"

Your best bet is to get some hair grafted into the scar, and then probably finish it off with some SMP to make it look almost unnoticeable because right now it is noticeable. In my opinion, doctors should grant refunds for stuff like this because now you have to dig even deeper into your pockets to fix something that shouldn't have been there in the first place. I wish you the best of luck and keep us updated.

Does SMP into a FUT scar look good at different lengths? From my understanding, it looks best at a 0 guard when the dots match the surrounding stubble. When hair begins to grow around it, the 3D hair doesn't match up with the 2D smp. However, if one also gets FUE into the scar tissue (let's assume multiple sessions) would then the combo of FUE and SMP look adequate at different hair lengths? That being a number 1, 2, 3, etc guard and so on. I still have a lot of hair on my head, it's just my FUT scar is low on my head and I like getting fades. I wouldn't be maintaining this fade every week or two so I just wanted to know if along with FUE and smp, the hair would be okay to grow ou from a 0 guardt. Anyone with SMP experience, please let me know.