Hair4Chris

Canada is probably the closest out of all those places, it is about a 30 minute flight from Massachusetts if you check out a map. Also terrorist, health regulations, distance, and having fewer large hurdles to overcome so I go through with it are all reasons to stay within my continent.

Hello, my name is Chris, I am 30 years old and have frontal hair loss (thinning) NW3. This is my experience so far with consultations and if I offend any doctors, or expose anything, I am sorry. I am also unwilling to go overseas for a FUE transplant, its surgery, I would feel uncomfortable doing that. I take .5 mg of finastride a day as well as rogaine foam 2x a day. I like to wear my hair short on the sides and back and long on top. I would prefer FUE as I believe it's the most modern advanced type of hair surgery but the difference in before and after pictures for FUE versus FUT sort of concerns me. FUT always looks much better and the hair porn is real. I want to believe FUE can get me those results without the invasive cutting of the back of my head, so I have decided to go for FUE. Now to the tough part. Choosing my Doctor. Konior Pros - Post Op pictures are the best I have ever seen, clean. - Communication top notch right from Dr. - Does all extractions and plants all the graphs with no technician - Best word of mouth reviews on the forums - Manual Punch - Perfectionist - 1 patient per day Cons - 1 Year wait list, and you need to pay $1000 upfront non refundable. - Expensive! Probably $10,000 more for 1800-2100 graphs than any other doctor on this list besides diep. Nearly $10 per graph. - No travel aid - Barely any before and after FUE pictures. It is a little concerning how few examples there really is, and this has been a complaint for years. - Hairlines can look a little underwhelming compared to Rahal, and Diep's results but who knows if those are exceptional results cherry picked from hundreds of cases. Rahal Pros - Cost. With Canadian exchange rate and his deals all the time, You can sometimes get 2500 graphs for $5 a graph. - His successful hairlines look amazing, movie star hair porn. - Travel Aid - Growth guaranteed, tries to fix all none growth cases. (Could also be a con cause our donor areas are precious and it leads to believe efficiency over quality in my opinion) - Can get a quick surgery day, month or 2 wait. Cons - Motorized trumpet punch - Uses a technician for extractions. Not very hands on. - Very salesman like emails from staff. Kind of a turnoff. If you wait the price seems to drop. - Rahal never personally emails you. - Tried to divert me to LA hair Clinic without even telling me, I had to ask who was going to do the surgery 4 emails into the conversation. They use rahals name but Dr Tahsini does the extractions., it’s like a referral system that seems sketchy. - Some of the worst overharvesting pictures I have seen on a few cases, also some cases that had zero growth, or hairs that never grew back. - Post Op pictures look pretty messy. - Multiple patients per day Vories (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Cheap! $4 a graph, can get almost 3 FUE surgeries for the price of 1 of Koniors. - Results on website look good. - Post op pictures don't look too bad. - Learned from best overseas. Cons - Not many good word of mouth reviews but no bad result posts like Rahal. - Some underwhelming cases, diffuse look. Diep (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Good density - Does extractions himself Cons - Hairline design not my favorite (zig zag) - Post Op pictures a little messy with larger holes Hason/Wong (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Hairlines look amazing - They have learned from the best overseas - Recent FUE Results show they can do FUE as good as their FUT - Last to perform FUE but they said they were waiting to perfect it before offering. Cons - Technicians used for extractions Any advice would be much appreciated, I would like to stay under $20,000 for the little loss I have in front, but I want density. What would you do? Do you think Konior's work is 3x greater than Vories?

Why is it that FUE does not grow as well at FUT? For the sake of this question say you transplant 1000 graphs FUT, and 1000 graphs FUE, and you confirm all 1000 grow with each procedure type, 100% yield for the sake of this question, regardless if you think that could happen. Will the FUE grow thinner and more straggly? Or is this just a question of yield, and if so can't you just use more FUE graphs to get the same visual result if its say a difference of 9-20% growth yield. So you transplant 1200 graphs FUE and 1000 graphs FUT. What makes it look so much better?

Agreed but if you think about it, the missing hairs in the strip are already implanted in the front of your head, resulting in the same amount of transplanted hair. Why i feel it makes no difference what is done first. As far as why FUT looks better than FUE, do you know why that happens? Is the hair thinned out if you do FUE versus FUT? What is the science behind that? Say you do 20% more graphs FUE than FUT, shouldn't it look the same to account for the transection loss?

As someone who is trying to research and make the best decision I can possible make going into a SURGERY, yes a SURGERY… Does anyone else find it discouraging and unnerving that arguable the best FUT surgeon in North America is arguing on these forums? I have spent two years trying to make a decision on doctor and procedure type and all I learned is it's a shady business with a bunch of non transparent pricing, results, and cut throat practices. At this point I am just ready to say F it and go bald. Going bald is a huge emotional stress, and is mentally taxing and the doctors certainly do not make it any easier. From what I gathered is that doctors can get better results with FUT over FUE with the same amount of graphs, but add ~15% more graphs using FUE, it bridges the gap if the surgeon is good. FUE prevents a large linear scar with unpredictable height, as well as unnatural hair directional changes. I also really like that 99.9% of people have less hair on the top of their hair than the horse shoe around their head, and FUE helps even out the diffusion and creates some consistency all over the head. The biggest draw is the recovery, and how much less invasive it appears to be, 3 day donor recovery for FUE in some cases. I also do not get how a FUT or FUE procedure is different in preserving the remaining donor hair. Say a strip has 3000 graphs, you transplant 3000, that’s 3000 less in the back of your head. Ok now say you FUE 3000 graphs, you transplant 3000, that’s 3000 less in the back of your head. It is the same amount. You can argue the perceived amount is different, because you are basically shortening the length of the back of your head with FUT and diffusing with FUE. If you get a huge scar though, that is worse than FUE thinning. You can also extract the exact amount you need with FUE, but not with FUT, so it can be wasteful. As an unrelated afterthought, I feel like every doctor should be required to post every result good or bad by law, as well as the cost of their procedure publicly. This would help with expectations and propelling the industry forward. I mean hospitals need to post their cancer survival statistics. Why should this surgery be any different? Then we could see what is the best procedure, and the best value as well. I understand a lot of patients will not come forward with their 12 month post pictures but a partial refund incentive would fix that (like a security deposit for a lease).

Hello, my name is Chris, I am 30 years old and have frontal hair loss (thinning) NW3. This is my experience so far with consultations and if I offend any doctors, or expose anything, I am sorry. I am also unwilling to go overseas for a FUE transplant, its surgery, I would feel uncomfortable doing that. I take .5 mg of finastride a day as well as rogaine foam 2x a day. I like to wear my hair short on the sides and back and long on top. I would prefer FUE as I believe it's the most modern advanced type of hair surgery but the difference in before and after pictures for FUE versus FUT sort of concerns me. FUT always looks much better and the hair porn is real. I want to believe FUE can get me those results without the invasive cutting of the back of my head, so I have decided to go for FUE. Now to the tough part. Choosing my Doctor. Konior Pros - Post Op pictures are the best I have ever seen, clean. - Communication top notch right from Dr. - Does all extractions and plants all the graphs with no technician - Best word of mouth reviews on the forums - Manual Punch - Perfectionist - 1 patient per day Cons - 1 Year wait list, and you need to pay $1000 upfront non refundable. - Expensive! Probably $10,000 more for 1800-2100 graphs than any other doctor on this list besides diep. Nearly $10 per graph. - No travel aid - Barely any before and after FUE pictures. It is a little concerning how few examples there really is, and this has been a complaint for years. - Hairlines can look a little underwhelming compared to Rahal, and Diep's results but who knows if those are exceptional results cherry picked from hundreds of cases. Rahal Pros - Cost. With Canadian exchange rate and his deals all the time, You can sometimes get 2500 graphs for $5 a graph. - His successful hairlines look amazing, movie star hair porn. - Travel Aid - Growth guaranteed, tries to fix all none growth cases. (Could also be a con cause our donor areas are precious and it leads to believe efficiency over quality in my opinion) - Can get a quick surgery day, month or 2 wait. Cons - Motorized trumpet punch - Uses a technician for extractions. Not very hands on. - Very salesman like emails from staff. Kind of a turnoff. If you wait the price seems to drop. - Rahal never personally emails you. - Tried to divert me to LA hair Clinic without even telling me, I had to ask who was going to do the surgery 4 emails into the conversation. They use rahals name but Dr Tahsini does the extractions., it’s like a referral system that seems sketchy. - Some of the worst overharvesting pictures I have seen on a few cases, also some cases that had zero growth, or hairs that never grew back. - Post Op pictures look pretty messy. - Multiple patients per day Vories (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Cheap! $4 a graph, can get almost 3 FUE surgeries for the price of 1 of Koniors. - Results on website look good. - Post op pictures don't look too bad. - Learned from best overseas. Cons - Not many good word of mouth reviews but no bad result posts like Rahal. - Some underwhelming cases, diffuse look. Diep (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Good density - Does extractions himself Cons - Hairline design not my favorite (zig zag) - Post Op pictures a little messy with larger holes Hason/Wong (Haven’t contacted yet could be more Pros/Cons) Pros - Hairlines look amazing - They have learned from the best overseas - Recent FUE Results show they can do FUE as good as their FUT - Last to perform FUE but they said they were waiting to perfect it before offering. Cons - Technicians used for extractions Any advice would be much appreciated, I would like to stay under $20,000 for the little loss I have in front, but I want density. What would you do?