dan26

13 hours ago, Kvn said:

is he responsive over messages? a direct answer from him would help, being someone who's "apprehensive about doing a larger FUE procedure with this doctor" myself.

It's unfortunate ppl don't come back and share what happened for the sake of others. But let's also try and understand all the pain and anguish ppl have ie imagine someone putting all this time, hope and money into a procedure thinking they are going to get their hair back only to be disappointed. When your that down in the dumps a refund on the condition of going ghost is understandably not a bad option.

22 hours ago, Kvn said:

Anyone ever hear from him?

Yes he had a poor result, got refunded, and moved on with his life...This is a lot more common than we would like to admit. There are no guarantee's in life

damn how on earth did you get that result while only using 2500 grafts!?

Month 3 and 4 had big booms of growth and thinks looking great ,month 5 basically stagnant and thats where I'm at now. Even with my hair pre-HT I'd have my good months and bad months depending on shedding, hair cycles, haircut and length etc. I find in general but especially with HT hair the shorter and cleaner cut the healthier the hair looks overall.

What do you mean no refund or litigation and you will get it fixed? Get that refund ASAP and go to a top doc in the world, even then you are in a tough spot because all those wasted grafts...good luck man

If a top doc says they cant perform on you and if your current clinic wont give you a refund please make it your mission to out the bastards who did this to you, no one should be going to them

Ya does contrast quite a bit, keep us updated on what the clinic has to say. Doesn't really seem like a growth/yield thing, maybe just placed at a certain angle with a certain density that doesn't match aswell with natives? I'm 4 months post op and just buzzed to a 1 and one temple looks perfectly blended while the other slightly different, so I think it just depends on where in the growth phase it is (good temple grew out immediately post op so already more mature)

Overall though your hair is fkn sick and after 3 procedures the donor still looks great even cut that short (looks about a 1 guard).

Of course everyone looks considerably better with hair, but if you are not willing to take finasteride then I do think it is a good idea to just accept and embrace baldness man, your head shape seems solid. But when you do make that leap just understand there is no going back. SMP probably wont provide you a satisfying outcome, and you could never get an HT unless you were on finasteride.

With your age and hairloss I would definitely either just 1) shave move on and accept 2) try and fight it but only if you are willing to take fin, if not then forget it and stick to option 1

You deserve a refund my friend. A refund plus some more money for your wasted time and energy to be honest!

A+ work

You still got great hair so I would go the fin/avo route, best to start with fin and see how that serves you. HT is always a last resort!

3 months and zero results = chill no worries

4 months zero results = a little worried

5 months zero results = worried

6 months zero results = panic

Tough choice man but I would say either way you are in good hands, and as you've alluded to It depends on what is most important to you ie getting it done in one procedure, hairline/crown etc

My personal philosophy with respect to Hair transplants is to operate out of the assumption that no new treatments are every going to come save the day, and we have to be very meticulous in planning ahead, managing our donor etc. I'm in my 20s as well and have been on forums for almost a decade so seeing virtually no progress with respect to treatments made me adopt a more conservative approach for HTs

Lorenzo was more in line with my personal approach so I went with him. Had I needed a large number of grafts and been on a budget, I probably would have gone with Erdy. Both have consistently great yields and overall results, and it seems like the main differences/concerns in the eyes of forum goers between the two are the large graft estimates of Erdy, the conservative nature of Lorenzo, as well as some concern with the aesthetics of Lorenzos hairlines. The thing I weighed most heavily was which Doc do I think gets the most out of each and every graft ie in the event i have more extensive loss down the road who can make best use of my total lifetime donor.

From experience I can tell you the conservative hairline talk with Lorenzo is not true at all. He was willing to be much more aggressive than I anticipated, and I ended up going somewhere in between his most conservative and most aggressive hairline design. I think most guys my age with my loss would have chose the most aggressive one but personally I didn't want to get greedy. A guy I met when I was there was in for his 10 month follow up, he was in his 20s and in show business so needed that perfect NW1 hairline and his results were awesome.

Listen to what people are saying mate - don't be stubborn here! You are making a poor decision I think you need to take more time, do more research and most importantly consult with more doctors. Be willing to travel too, you will be much better off doing so. The cost and quality is not in your favor with your current decision, you could absolutely get better for less.

Thanks Dan....btw....what is "DUPA"?

Np.

Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia aka donor hair sensitive to androgens just like the rest of MPB hair.

Can't personally relate but I'd say you should at least be on fin and preferably dut if you are on TRT. First and foremost for the extra DHT being created via the T spike and second some guys hair is actually sensitive to T aswell.

It should not affect your donor hair unless you have DUPA.

 

a more organized pattern, with less feathering, will give a greater long-term yield and a more even distribution. The reason is that the healing of FUE wounds distorts adjacent follicular units making subsequent extraction in the same regions more difficult and increases the risk of transection. For this reason, in subsequent procedures we generally prefer to harvest in new areas..

Has there been any studies on this or is it more just an observation doctors have made? And when you say distort do you mean the adjacent follicles are actually damaged/compromised post-op or just that when you try to extract them in the future it may be more risky?

Would be really interested to hear from docs who've done multiple medium-large size FUE sessions and if they notice a lower yield the second time around.

Understand your frustration mate but your still fortunate you had a big procedure and yield is good outside of those spots. A lot of ppl with poor fue results would take yours in a heartbeat. Worst case they touch you up and your good to go. But those areas could still thicken up usually the deadest most slick bald areas lag behind as they're very lacking in blood vessel networks etc

Think you're jumping the gun a bit mate but I can understand why your worried.. Have you talked to your doc? If so what did he say?

Try letting it grow out for the next couple months to the length you had it preop, that will give a better idea if the density is suitable and if the yield is/was ok.

Also if you see the US doc in person see if they can measure the density in the recipient and compare it with the numbers koray implanted at

Wow must be a really slow news week...

so far so good bro...dut will give you a big density boost, Isee you rocking a thick head of hair with a great hairline in 8-12 months.

 

So initial growth was rough. My wife even asked if I'd had anything done.

wait you didn't tell your wife you had an ht?

Gonna pile on with what the rest are saying with respect to finasteride.

I can tell you with near certainty that you are going to end up taking it eventually anyways, so you may as well get it over with and start now.

Either you'll lose more and freak out in the coming years and hop on or Dr Diep will make you take it before you have second procedure.

Trust me man I've spoken to many doctors who've told me about stubborn patients who have refused to take it initially then came back years later and the second time around they've had to be way more firm with their patients in taking it.

I can't speak for Dieps ethics because I don't know him but think from Drs perspective, they understand how ppl can be with fear of fin but at the same time they want your business and know some other doc will eventually cave to the patient and tell them what they want to hear ie operate on them without being on fin anyways. I think Dr Diep is prob a good guy and just realised how stuck on it you were but will def end up making you get on it down the road.

Interesting story, but the pictures are fairly clear. Sean had a good result with Dr. Rahal, he is not a repair patient.

:rolleyes:

Is there anyway I could talk to one of you guys in a chat or something ?

Thanks so much

Ya np I will send you a message

No rush boss take your time to learn before you do anything. We're all here too help so just keep asking away.

First thing we really need to get out if the way before we talk about hair transplants is if your loss is stable. With your current loss at your young age plus your family history you can't have a transplant until you're sure your hair loss is stable.

So , are you on finasteride/propecia?

If you answer yes then we can proceed to talk about hair transplants and you could potentially be getting one in the near future. If not then you need to research and decide if you want to start medical treatment.

To reiterate: given your age and hair you can not have a hair transplant until you stabilize your hair loss with medical intervention (drugs).