jsmyth

Just curious, how many grafts per cm/2 were placed in the recipient?

I know that you can never attain the density of a non-balding scalp with a transplant, but say you are on the less severe side and can get more dense packing, does long hair look good or will it look thin?

I know that when you get a hair transplant that the grafts per cm² are less than on a non-balding scalp. If you aren't a high NW and are able to get upwards to the max grafts per cm², what are the styling options like?

Does longer hair look too thin still? 

How did you find travelling through the airport afterwards? For some reason I always get stressed out thinking of that.

2 hours ago, jmghair said:

This couldn't be more incorrect. Even top clinics have cases of poor FUE yield. I know because I went to a top FUE clinic and had poor yield. The truth is many patients have had this as well. The truth is that for all the good results you see there are many patients that you don't see. The facts of the the science behind the surgery is that FUE grafts have less supportive tissue due to the small punch size which decreases the likelihood of graft survival and takes less stem cell from the transplanted grafts. This isn't opinion this is a scientific fact. It is absolutely prudent to tell patients what the risks are with each so that they can make informed consent. Saying the yield will be similar is 100% false. The yield of FUT will always be superior due to less trauma to the grafts are just better quality because of the amount of supportive tissue it allows you to take. Any prudent surgeon would agree.

That's disappointing to hear. I was looking at Dr. Bisanga for an FUE. I just don't want to have that kind of scar from an FUT. I like idea of FUE because the scarring is much less noticeable than the strip scar. If I ever did have to shave my head, I just think I'd be too self conscious.

If FUE really is that poor of an option, I guess I'll probably just wait for another treatment to come along. 

3 hours ago, Taken4Granted said:

@jsmyth

No kidding. I’m just looking into this again after deciding to hold off 10 years ago. It’s more expensive than I remember. I mean, I was planning for a high price tag and I’m still surprised. All the same, I would pay it. I would pay anything to fix a disastrous HT, so it seems better to choose the right doc and pay away some of the risk. My situation is worse, though. It’s gonna take FUT and several rounds.

Ya it is absurd how little the price has changed for so long. Like it's still hardly accessible. Basically a downpayment on a house. I've been looking at some of the surgeons in Belgium. They're a bit cheaper than NA and seem to be pretty well regarded. Rahal was a lock for me for a while and he has $1k of mine on depost from a long time ago that I could put towards but I just here so much iffy shit about his FUE on here.

14 minutes ago, Taken4Granted said:

@jsmyth

He’s recommending that graft count because he knows you need density. We high NWs would not use 3000 grafts to cover that. If you’re seeking a serious answer to exactly how thick, I’d recommend estimating the area you need covered in square centimeters. You can divide the graft count over that and look up results posted with stats on grafts/cm^2.

I think the surgeon should be the main thing on your mind. Once you talk to one or two, you’ll have a better idea of what to expect. I haven’t gotten my HT yet, but I’m ride-or-die for Konior.

Ya I'll need to look into that I guess. I mean my hairline hasn't been especially thick for most of my 20s so I don't think I'd care too much. Just want the hairs themselves to be of a better calbre and it to be more uniform. I have sort of fine hair that's naturally been a bit more wispy so I'm never going to have that stand up kind of hair anyways. I need to just get an idea of what the density in that thinning part is currently I guess then go from there.

Konior does some awesome work, but I just don't know if I could do the US. I think he charges like 8 USD for FUE grafts. So at 2500 that would cost me almost 30k in CAD. I don't mind paying for a quality surgeon but that is just too much.

9 minutes ago, ruca2 said:

It looks like you have significant miniaturization in at least the first centimeter of your forelock. So that would need reinforced along with filling in the completely hairless temple areas. You could probably get away with 2000 grafts but it wouldn't have significant density. For a dense result with reinforced frontal you're probably looking at 2500-3000 grafts. 

Thanks for getting back to me!

Do you think you could find an example/photo of what kind of density it would look like at around 2000 grafts. Would it look similar to how thin it does right now but just more straight of a hairline?

What surgeon do you think would be a good option for this kind of case?

3 minutes ago, ruca2 said:

Completely arbitrary question because we can't see your hairline and have no idea if you want to lower it or just fill in receded temple area. Take more photos with hairline exposed and a tentative hairline placement drawn. 

Here you go - I want the hairline filled in in the corners and at the front but I don't want it lowered any further than where the middle currently reaches.

1 hour ago, TorontoMan said:

I’m in a very similar situation and was quoted 2,000-2,500 by doctors when I consulted online and in person. Did you take medication to maintain your hair to that level ?

Kind of a long story but I took Finasteride for 4 years and then quit because of sides. Developed PFS after that which I've had since. It's fucked up a lot of things but one positive is that I haven't lost hair anymore.

I started losing hair around 21 and I am 30 now. The loss has been very very slow so I am interested in pursuing an FUE. Basically everything behind this thinning frontal area is in good shape. How many grafts would I be looking at?

I've been exploring and FUE procedure for my hairline and I used to always see Rahal's work and it looked incredible. I don't really see much of anything out of his clinic anymore. Is he still practicing and a top surgeon?

Tale a look at mania1's posting history.

I think he is contractually obligated to reply to posts here but never actually engage in the topic.

That is strange. Who do you think he is contractually obligated by?

How could you do it ... .???

Do you mean how could I go through with an FUE with Dr. Rahal?

I don't know if you will see this RyanVodka. I had a consult with Dr. Rahal for similar hairloss as you and was recommended 1200 grafts. I want to go FUE but I want some information from you. I saw that you needed another 1000 FUE after your initial 1200 FUE. Care to elaborate on what was wrong after the initial procedure (from your photos it looked good). I am also concerned about the shockloss you experienced in the donor area. I am currently 26 years old and have been on finasteride for 4 years without losing much of anything.

I suggest look up username & PM him.

Is there a lock on private messaging for new users? I saw his FUE results and just made an account, but it does not seem as though I can PM him.

I was wondering if RyanVodka could respond to me on here. I am unable to send a PM and would like to speak to you about your procedure with Dr. Rahal.

I was recently consulted for 1200 graft and wanted to go the FUE route. I have similar loss as you did. I saw your results after your first 1200 grafts and they looked great, but then I saw you had another 1000 grafts and some shockloss. What prompted the extra 1000 grafts? Has the thinning in the donor area resolved?

I don't know how to get a hold of this user directly so if someone could point him to this thread it would be greatly appreciated.