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A quick update on my case. I read a lot of msges here that its not related etc. Well im off the fin since Apr. 2023. I dont use any medication atm and i can confirm that my overall state improved. Much less foggy , more motivated. Overall mood is better too. Additional thing is that my semen became thicker. When i was on fin it was kinda watery. Downside : i shed a bit, so my hair is not that thick anymore, but its manageable. Happy New Year everyone ! 

So long story short . Been using fin for 10 years, had no sides that can be spotted, but after years of use my life came to a point where i start to had episodes of depression, which led me to use of prozac . Another thing is a brain fog.  Not sure when it started since its not just hit you at once, but over time my life become just trash : lack of energy, no motivation, i have memory problems  and so on. Basically you dont live a full life, started to feel myself like im an empty shell with no soul .. So i dropped it like half a year ago. ATM its hard to say if im becoming who i was before fin , but i hope that it will happen . Just a thought for everyone who is using it  , those sides didnt hit me in one day, there were creeping little by little over the years .

If some of you have questions, feel free. I will do my best to answer

when you look at afterwards pictures of HT operations, dont forget its just an illusion 

norwood 5

just a quick update on how things are. Earlier i complain that i lost a bunch of native hair and blamed myself of stoping using minoxidil, well i didnt start and hair grew back so i guess that was some seasonal shedding ? I attach close ups of my hair line. basicly thats most important thing. Transplanter hair dont shed much , atleast i do not notice. Also i have a bunch of thin native hair that grew back...

just a quick update on my situation. Like a year ago i stopped minoxidil 5% because i couldt really apply it on my skin anymore, and it was too much hustle ,since i had so much hair ( lol) . So i thought its just useless. Well guess what, i shedded like a motherfucker all year. I think it was all that tiny  hair that never develop into thick one. so i lost them all. And now i go back on minoxidil.  Moral of the story: Dont stop using fin and minox

2 hours ago, CosmoKramer said:

Did Dr Demirsoy tell you how many more grafts you may have in your donor for any possible future procedure? Do you think you could get another done and not thin out your back and sides?

I dont know how many grafts i have left. J think i can do one more op to fix vertex

Add .pictures

So, as it said  . I had a HT and a bunch of gray hair from my sides were transplanted on top, front. So what i find out is that some of them after some time from gray became black again. I cant find any explanation to that in internet, so if anaone have any ideas, please share. Thank you

1st operation: october 2015 , 2nd : july 2017

donor area 1 cm long, after 5500 grafts removed 

On 11/14/2018 at 5:01 PM, OliverAtom said:

I was on a quest for a shampoo. I guess my research is over now : )  

One question though, could I replace Finasteride with Saw Palmetto? 

no you can't

thats how i look on average photo

i use finasteride for 5 years now. Now im thinking to get off of it and see what will happen. The reason why i want to do that is because i feel that my state of mind is too depressive, even tho nothing bad happens in my life. It could be my age ( 36)  but i just tired of life  and cant enjoy it anymore. Hard to tell what cause such way of feeling , Let you know later how it goes.

shampoo dont do anything. Its marketing bs. finasteride and minoxidil. Thats it

On 10/17/2018 at 6:20 AM, hairaway said:

  That's without taking into account the already existing hairs right, and that most of the grafts are placed at the hairline and the frontal zone.

yes. Just wait a year and evaluate and go from there.

well lets do the math. Average density 80-120 hair per cm2. You have approximatly 100 cm2 covered with 3000 grafts thats 30 per cm2. Lets say survival rate at best :90 %, thats 27 grafts per cm2.. So for "close to normal" density you will need to do the same 3000 transplantation one more time. Thats more ot less

14 minutes ago, hairaway said:

 You had amazing results, hope I can have something similar. I know I have to have patience but in general what do you think of my post-op density ?

its normal. Also since you almost dont have vertex hairloss you will have a good result at the end. Plus you have a lot of grafts to go for a second operation if you would like more density. Just wait a year and go from there

added: i also want to add that i think its not good to impant grafts very dense in one operation, i think it drops survival rate. If you want big density its better to split into 2-3.. etc operations.

i had 2 ops with this doctor. You can check my thread. Only thing that i can advise is just stop thinking about it. Its done. Just wait a year or so .

i dont know how many grafts i have. But whatever it is , its not much and i saved it for later. I was thinking about it, and thats why i went with only 1800 grafts last operation.

more close-ups of hairline

Just now, Seesaw said:

What a terrific result!! Amazing density. 

well, density is nothing special. I have to keep hair long on top so it will look like that. I can make only certain hairstyles so they look good on me. Dont forget that i need to cover pretty big area with only 5,5k grafts. Also i need to keep donor area atleast 2 sm long so it will look OK. I need to compromise to look normal.

Just now, Steeeve said:

Congratulations. That’s one good looking head of hair. Especially when you look back at where your journey began and the amount of grafts used. Was this strip or FUE?

I’d really like to get a clearer look at that hairline if at all possible.

Congrats again.

it was FUE 

im norwood 5 , i think

on finasteride (1.25mg)  ,minoxidil (5%)  for 5 years

I had 2 operations with  Dr.Erkan Demirsoy in Istanbul. 1st  operation (3686 follicles)  in front part/ mid part/ hairline.  2nd ~1800: in vertex (~1200) and hairline (~600)

i post pre 1 operation pics, and final result as of today . Later if you need i can post more pics ( post 1 operation, pre 2 operation, post 2 operation ). I had a ton of pics, just too lazy to edit them . Sry.

Wow. You had very rapid hairloss ,in 5 years to NW7 , thats quick.

Why you didn't start finasteride earlier ?

I see that you have a lot of body hair, and that is great because you will need all of it to fix your hairloss.

Good luck to you, i was nw5 myself.

Only if you can collect good amount of body hair grafts. You can get ~4K grafts from the head max.. Rest should be body hair