Davey

Hi Davey,

 

For aggressive FUE there is Dr. Erdogan and Dr. Keser in Turkey, and believe it or not Dr. Bisanga can go aggressive when the situation and the patient's needs warrant it.

He did my temple corners at 60 grafts/cm2 (I have fine caliber hair so this made for a fairly dense non see-through result).

 

Dr. Feriduni could be another choice but seems waiting lists are long and may require in person consult to get a booking (?).

Some of Diep's hairlines look very nice. American rather than European, but I'm in Australia, so either side will be a look distance away.

Thanks everyone for your replies. The general consensus appears to be that I should be looking at temple points rather than lowering the hairline.

You're best bet is to speak to Spex about Dr Feriduni as he would know him best as his rep but dr Feriduni was among my short list and ultimately a couple factors made me choose Dr Bisanga over him but neither factor was regarding skill as I believe he's a very talented doctor with a great aesthetic eye every bit equal to dr B. I don't think he's necessarily any more aggressive than Dr Bisanga however. I think in the right situation both doctors can dense pack with the best of them and given less than ideal situations both doctors will err on the side of your future hair loss progression and planning for that. It comes down to you if you prefer one docs body of work vs the other but I don't think either one would do something drastically different than each other, ie if Dr B said he would not lower your hairline that Dr Feriduni would jump on it type thing, I think they're both ethically on the same page at least that is the impression I get. You'd be best to run it by both of them to see what each has to say... I mentioned the turkish docs specifically because of their willingness to throw grafts at density with less hesitation about the future so if you want a more receptive option than Dr B or potentially dr F these 2 could be it and both do high end work tho yes, they will probably use more grafts than the Belgians, just seems to be part of the package with them.

Thanks for your comments, definitely food for though. Regarding the issue of graft numbers, clearly a more radical outcome will require more grafts. However, the impression that I get is that for similar outcomes some surgeons use much more grafts than others, which to me isn't the way to go.

First off, work was nicely done, great result

 

You could check with the clinic but Dr B advises what is in his opinion is in your best interest but ultimately leaves it in your hands to make the choice as you're an adult. He told me the risks in doing my minor crown work at the same time as my hairline and what he thought my best course of action was but that it was my call and he would do what I wished. I trusted his expertise and didn't do the crown then, now I have to go in and do the 500 grafts into the crown but I am in a better position to do so now with being on fin for a year, and having stabilized some minaturized hairs. It was the right call for me. If you like his work then it is worth contacting them again and relaying your desires. If you're looking for an aggressive doc who will take your hairline further than Dr B might be willing, look at the top Turks, Erdogan and Keser, both do great hairline work and tend to be very aggressive in comparison to their euro counterparts. Keser especially is good at taking nw3s and under to the finish line. I agree with the other thread however, I think the temple points are the way to go and you probably dont need a drop but it's your hair and if you're not happy with it, all the voices saying otherwise don't mean a thing, if it bugs you it bugs you.

Thanks for the information. What about Dr Feriduni? I believe he too is potentially one of the more aggressive doctors. From what I've seen Dr Erdogan gets great results, but appears to use lots of grafts in doing so.

Lorenzo in Madrid for fue in Europe

 

Happy growing

I thought Lorenzo had a reputation for very conservative hairlines.

Hi Spanker,

 

But don't you think that may be unnecessary as that may put him at risk for shock loss in that area? I would be very careful not to do it now and wait. He can definitely afford to wait.

Hi,

Given that my original transplant was 2 years ago what is the virtue in waiting further? Since the first transplant had no issue with shock loss I would assume that the risk with a further one would be small, especially given the fact I'm in my 40s and am on Finasteride.

Why not go with Bisanga again?

Hi

This question (to put things into context) concerns a thread I had in another part of this forum regarding getting another transplant for a more aggressive hairline: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186017-seeking-second-aggressive-fue-transplant.html

I'd be more than happy to consider Bisanga again, but my understanding is that Bisanga is conservative by nature, so he might refuse to do further work on me. From what he told me when undertaking the first transplant, he feels that hairlines should be conservative otherwise it might look strange on people like myself in future decades, eg, when I'm in my 60s.

My personal view differs. Ronald Reagan for instance had a near perfect hairline and it looked great on him even in his 70s. Further, as my hairloss has stabilised for some time on Finasteride I believe that a more aggressive hairline in my case is feasible.

Here's an immediate post-surgery photo:

Note that the part in the centre front (the forelock) had native hairs there already. Apparently hairs were transplanted there as a prophylactic measure in case I lose native hairs there when older.

Other information: Am in my mid 40s, have been on Finasteride for a long long time (over a decade).

Hi Everyone

I had a FUE by Dr Bisanga involving approximately 2000 grafts. It was undertaken in early 2015.

Here are the before photos:

Here are the results at the 2 year mark:

Hi everyone,

I was formerly a NW3, and 2 years ago had a FUE HT, approximately 2000 grafts. I live in Australia but went to Europe for my HT.

Here is what my hair looks like now:

Nothing went wrong with the 1st procedure. Had good yield. I am now looking at getting a 2nd FUE HT because I prefer a more aggressive hairline. I'm in my mid 40s. I'm looking for recommendations and/or comments from this forum.

late 30s.. most would die for your pre op hairline.... hope the results are amazing but imo, I think you jumped the gun a bit soon seeing the hairline you had was very very good for someone in their late 30s.. the new hairline looks very juvenile. it looks good, don't get me wrong, but maybe not age appropriate?

Agreed that many Norwood 3s after their surgery end up with his pre-op hairline. However, I actually think a more aggressive approach is warranted in many cases. Even for someone approaching 40 or older.

There seems to be talk of a hairline being 'age appropriate'. The implication being that a strong hairline on an older man looks unnatural.

Yet take a look at photos of people like the late Ronald Reagan when he was president. A perfect hairline, looks great on him. Or George Clooney. Etc.

Of course, if donor preservation is an issue, then there is reason for conservatism. And if someone is a Norwood 4 or upwards clearly this type of post-op hairline isn't attainable. But for others, this kind of outcome should be on the menu without surgeon conservatism inaccurately stating that things need to be 'age appropriate'.

Well - does anyone have any - any plausible suggestions at all - suggestions about what is going on.

I've attached a photo of 1 day after the final day of surgery. It's subtle, but the inside of the circled area has less stubble than the surrounding areas - as I said, I've noticed that this area looked different from early on.

How did you manage to scratch yourself on the 1st night after your operation? Accidental scratch during sleep?

 

If you had no other episodes of bleeding it's prob early shedding.

 

I noticed a bald patch in my grafted area as well after day 10 when I lost all scabs. I panicked but I recalled that I never had any bleeding during that period which means no grafts were lost. At least according to the research I did in this forum.

Hi

I still am not sure how I understand how this is likely to be shedding given that:

-it's been an issue since shortly after the surgery

-the hairs are all next to each other.

-some of the hairs appear to be very short rather than non-existent.

Anyone have any ideas?

Hi

I'm 13 days post op and there is something that is causing me worry.

This photo (taken 2 days ago) shows that there is a patch in the middle of the circle where the hairs appear to be markedly shorter than the rest of the transplanted areas. It's only an issue on the right temple.

I noticed that this area looks more sparse very soon after the surgery, so this isn't something that has just become apparent in the last few days.

It's been suggested that it's a shedding issue, but I can't believe this to be the case. After all, it became apparent just after the surgery, and the hairs in question are bunched together.

Background information: I had just over 2000 grafts over a 2 day period. On the fist night of the surgery some grafts became dislodged due to scratching. These were replaced in the 2nd day of the surgery. I am close to 100% confident that I did not dislodge anything after the 2nd day of the surgery. This region that is concerning me might be the area of the grafts that were dislodged & replaced, though am not sure.

Hi everyone

I live in Australia, am a Norwood 3 with almost no loss at the vertex. I have been stable on Finasteride for many years, but wish to obtain a full hairline.

Given the lack of reputable FUE surgeons in Australia, I have emailed the practices of both Dr Feriduni & Dr Bisanga with my photos.

Dr Bisanga's clinic appears to believe that I needed about 1700 grafts, whereas Dr Feriduni's seems to think 2400 - 2600 was the right amount.

Given the difference, I would like people's input here as to what they think. I've attached photos.

Hi everyone

I live in Australia, am a Norwood 3 with almost no loss at the vertex. I have been stable on Finasteride for many years, but with to obtain a full hairline.

Given the lack of reputable FUE surgeons in Australia, I have emailed the practices of both Dr Feriduni & Dr Bisanga with my photos.

Dr Bisanga's clinic appears to believe that I needed about 1700 grafts, whereas Dr Feriduni's seems to think 2400 - 2600 was the right amount.

Given the difference, I would like people's input here as to what they think. I've attached photos.