GrowNewHair

On 3/13/2022 at 1:44 PM, ryker94 said:

@GrowNewHair what other brand(s) were you using for micro-dosing and what strength, mate? I might have to follow suit. 

I'm using Minoxidilmax's Essengen 6 plus. It's got 6% min & 0.5% fin per application (1mL).

I'm applying Mon, Wed, and Fri once a day for each day.

1 hour ago, Curious said:

I am also using the topical Finasteride by Xyon.  I have been using it since last week.  I apply it every day after I come home from work, so it has several hours to absorb and dry.  So far, I have not felt any side effects.  I have used oral Finasteride, which caused a rash and annoying itch to the point I had to stop.

Good for you.

Kind of rare to get rash and itch from oral fin though?

Well anyway, hope it works out well for you without any sides. 

7 hours ago, futureresearch said:

Thanks for the update! I’ve been curious about this new formula but a bit skeptical as well. Wish they would just lower the dosage since if any does happen to go systemic, 2.5mg would be way worse than the normal topical dosages.

 

I had a question, what form is it in? Like a gel or liquid? And how easy is it to apply? Also do you dermaroll or anything? I used topical fin after dermarolling accidentally and that increased systemic absorption by a lot.

It's in gel form.

Fairly easy to apply. One pump will give you this small amount of gel (about an inch long). It can cover the entire scalp if you apply very small amount for each area. 

I haven't microneedled for a while. So no, I didn't microneedle while using this topical fin.

Update after 3 weeks of use:

So I've been applying Xyon topical finasteride on Mon, Wed, and Fri only. And I can see my nipples have become more pointier and also experienced tingling sensations. I'm also getting aches around the chest area quite frequently. Gynecomastia was and still is my main concern with using finasteride. I had developed very mild gyno symptoms from other brand's topical fin. I decided to give Xyon topical fin a try as it is not suppose to go systemic. Even if it does, only 5% at most as claimed by them.

I contacted the doctor who prescribed me the medication. The doc was a little doubtful about my experience as the formulation was known to limit any systemic absorption. He said I can try to reduce the frequency and see if that makes any difference.

The sides I felt from Xyon topical fin is stronger than the other brand I tried. With the other brand, I only applied 0.5mg MWF. 

With Xyon's topical fin, the same application: MWF. But as we know one application of Xyon's is equivalent to 2.5mg hence, much stronger. But since it's not suppose to go systemic, I thought it will be safe. But it is NOT!!!!!! At least for me it isn't!

I might try Mon & Thurs only and see what happens. If that still doesn't make much difference, I'll just go back to micro-dosing with the other brands I used before.

So that is my update after 3 weeks.

11 hours ago, rumblefish7194 said:

does one go to their website and send them an email asking about ordering topical finasteride and wait to hear back?

that was all i found at the website in terms of contact information or anything

That's what I did. I heard back from them after about a  week or 10 days? (not sure)

They sent me an invitation email with a form to fill out. I sent the form back with 2 photos and the next day I received an email from the pharmacy for my order.

I paid for the order and received it today. It took about 4-5 days for me to receive it. I haven't used it yet. I will start first week in February.

35 minutes ago, Dingus said:

Same here man, I started Thursday EOD 1pump. 
 

 

Hope to God this doesn’t give me sides like I had on oral. 

do you rub your scalp with gel for 30-60 seconds like the doctor recommends? 

I'd rub only a few seconds on each area when using my current topical fin. 

don't know why it had to be 30-60 seconds long.

So today, I placed the order for Xyon's topical finasteride(Hasson & Wong's)! After I submitted my info I got email back from one of Xyon's dermatologist. I filled out their form with my basic info and was contacted by Curexa pharmacy to place the order for my prescription. I paid $99 and am waiting to receive my order. 

Right now I am excited but also hoping this is not another product that doesn't live up to the hype. Will Xyon's topical fin really be sides free or at the least sides will be very very minimum? I am not doubting Dr. Hasson or Xyon. I appreciate what they are trying to do. But to be fair, I won't regard their product as some miraculous magic potion as I haven't used it yet. Well I want it to be though.

According to the dermatologist I should:

apply one pump (1ml) of the gel to the affected area of your scalp each morning. Rub the gel gently into the affected area of your scalp for 30-60 seconds then wash your hands well.

But I will use only MWF at first. I want to take this nice and slow. I am currently micro-dosing .05mg on MWF with the topical fin I have right now. Xyon's is 2.5mg per application and I think it is pretty strong.

I will monitor and update my progress as I go. My main concern at this point is gyno side. Hope Xyon's topical fin won't give me that.

15 hours ago, mariner_24 said:

Yeah I guess I am just a tad hesitant. Dr. Hasson in his video did say the patients had really no sides but mine were bad before so I am hestiant just remembering what I went through and then just maintaining the 99/month, I think right now that is more of my hang up. I don't want to detour you. I want this to work for sure.

What kind of sides were you having?

14 hours ago, mariner_24 said:

I bought it but haven't started yet. I just don't think I can afford $99/month. Plus I had side on their topical finasteride they had out before this new solution.

Wow, really? So you had sides from their previous product?

Hmmm I am beginning to wonder if their "new" topical fin really can be better than the one you used (only 5% absorption as they claim).

I got very interested first, but then after reading your post, I get to wonder if I can really trust their "new" topical fin to be sides free (or close to it)? 

4 hours ago, SLA said:

Your sides with topical dut may very well have been due to the wounds.

It may well be.

What I used was .1% dut not .01% mesotherapy. 

But I wasn't seeing much progress with dut whereas with fin, I did see improvements in relatively short period of time.

10 hours ago, Gatsby said:

Have you tried micro dosing oral finasteride like say 0.5mg's Monday, Wednesday and Friday?

That is exactly what I'm doing, but with topical. 

And I too am going to up the dosage once my body gets use to it but certainly will not use it everyday.

1 hour ago, HairRun said:

I've been hearing that topical dut may not cause side effects for individuals who do get sides from topical fin, but I don't think I've seen a solid case of this yet. 

That was what got me attracted to topical dut in the first place. I do believe that logic applies to some but I don't think it applies to all.

I'm currently micro dosing with topical fin (.05% MWF). No more topical dut!

4 hours ago, Grzegorz641 said:

YES low sex drive low erection i feel

no Good 

So I guess the topical dut is just as systemic?

I'm going back to topical fin. Are you going to continue to use topical dut?

57 minutes ago, Grzegorz641 said:

I think same happen me i have itchy skin on my head and use 3 times dut after have sides

You are having sides from dut also? What kind of sides are you having?

So I have been using topical dut from fue clinic since early June this year. I applied 1mL each time twice per week with topical minoxidil. For the past 3 months I haven't felt any sides; I haven't noticed any significant growth either. But in early September, I experimented with this new minoxidil that contains tretinoin. As you know tretinoin is known to help min to be absorbed more effectively into the scalp, hence improves the chance of hair regrowth. 

But my scalp being very sensitive, the skin started to peel off after several applications of min w/ tretinoin. As a result, my scalp would be red from the "wounds" caused by tretinoin. It would take several days for my scalp to heal completely. I should have waited until my scalp was fully healed before applying topical dut. But to my mistake, I applied topical dut (total 4 ~ 5 times) while my scalp was still fresh with wounds. And after that I began to feel aches in chest, sporadic tingling in nipples, tensions in seminal duct (not groin. had to google search as I wasn't sure the name of the area).

So I stopped topical dut & min w/ tretinoin altogether. And for little more than a month, (from mid September to now) I've been applying topical min only. 

I am thinking those sides were due to applying topical dut when my scalp still wasn't healed from the wounds (from tretinoin), causing dut to go systemic.

Or could it be that dut was slowly building up in my system and finally began to show the sides?

I've been taking DIM 400mg, Zinc 100mg and vitamin D3. The sides as of now, has gotten better. 

I am debating if I should go back using topical dut once all sides clear (and NO MORE min w/ tretinoin). Or I should micro dose topical fin instead?

I would need to include DHT blocker to my regime eventually.

Anyone with similar experience, feel free to chime in. 😉

2 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Which subreddit? Tressless or hair transplants? 

Tressless

50 minutes ago, giegnosiganoe said:

Figure I'll tag along here, because I'm pretty sure I'm developing (bilateral) gyno as well! Can't say I've noticed any other sides, though I haven't been sexually active for the past 1-2 years (should be back on dating apps in the next couple months after I get some more recent pics, so maybe I'll find out then).

Been on dut for 2 years now, and fin for half a year before that.

Some previous context: My nipples always stuck out ever so slightly more than the average person (like when they got cold) as far as I can remember, but nothing anyone would ever consider to be gyno. However over the past few months, I've become increasingly aware of my nipples showing more through certain types of shirts, feeling slight sensitivity when rubbed at times, and feeling a small lump limited to the nipple/areola. At first I thought that maybe I already had these symptoms given my history and that I was overthinking it, but now that a few months have passed I'm pretty confident it has continued to get worse and that it's the development of gyno. I'm also surprised it has taken so long for me to notice this (given I've been on DHT blockers for 2.5 years), but I guess it makes sense that the effect would be cumulative.

I went to see a doc yesterday who confirmed that he felt a small lump, and he ordered various hormonal blood tests. Let's see if the tests explain my perceived worsening of the symptoms/possible development of gyno.

If it is gyno, I'm greatly leaning toward staying on dut and just getting surgery.

I've been trying to post this on tressless but it kept got removed by the damn admin.  This dude had gyno from fin. He had a surgery to remove it. Then he went on to try topical dut. The gyno came back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB4g22g-lPk&t=8s

As you know the shelf life for topical dut from fue clinic is 90 days @ room temperature and 120 days refrigerated.

It's suppose to lose the potency after that, right?

Most of us who ordered it already lost 30 days of shelf life in the shipping.

I put my topical dut in the fridge right after receiving it. And it should reach the 120 days in about a month. I still have a lot left in the bottle.

For those that ordered the topical dut from fue clinic, did you continue to use it after it expired? Did you throw it away?

sorry for multiple posts. couldn't delete the duplicated posts.

8 hours ago, mcr7777 said:

Have you noticed any sides from Topical dut?  Do you think it's working? Any shed with it?

no sides no shedding 

too early to tell if any progress.

3 hours ago, Ronnieman said:

 

How often do you use topical dut?

I've only read of people using it once a week.

use it twice per week 1ml each time.

8 hours ago, mcr7777 said:

Have you noticed any sides from Topical dut?  Do you think it's working? Any shed with it?

no sides no shedding 

too early to tell if any progress.

use it twice per week 1ml each time.

no sides no shedding 

too early to tell if any progress.

use it twice per week 1ml each time.

topical fin from minoxidilmax. not sure if liposomal.

yes. topical dut from fueclinic

I had decent experience with topical fin. 4-5 months of use, my hair started to thicken and slowly seemed to fill in the bald spots.

Too bad I had to stop due to my nipples getting puffy. 

Currently using topical dut. 

And yes, I got my topical fin online.

I took Proscar (5mg)before. I would take 1/4 piece (roughly 1.25mg) on Mon, Wed, & Fri as recommended by the Dr.

When I took it on an empty stomach, I was dizzy for 3-4 days. Took a while to muster up enough courage to take it again.

So took Proscar again but this time, I would take it after a hearty meal. And it seemed to barely keep the dizziness at bay.

I didn't like the fact that I had to go thru this much trouble just to take finasteride.

So I dropped it. 

Much later, I found the topical finasteride. And with the topical, no dizziness has ever been experienced.