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  1. Hi All,

    I'm Male/30/72 kg./180cm. from India suffering from hair thinning / loss for past few years.

     

    This post is for Junios here or People like me who are facing Vitamin/Supplement V/S Price/Quality/Availability Dilemma

     

    I've planned to start some non "DHT Inhibitor" treatment for my Norwood 4/5/5a & thinning hairs with Minoxidil 5% (topical solution) & Ketoconazole-2 % based shampoo but got too confused on vitamins and supplements.

     

    I'm not too sure but I think I'm ALSO suffering from followings which might or might not be responsible for my hair thinning/loss.

    1. Midlife crises http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midlife_crisis

    2. Delayed sleep-phase syndrome (DSPS) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_syndrome

    3. Dandruff (looks like I've overactive sebaceous glands, though I'm not sure) Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandruff

    4. Back Pain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_pain

     

    My food/work routine for past few year's were very bad so I knew I have to pump up my vitamin/mineral/amino acids intake.

     

    What I've understood from internet & other sources from a layman's perspective.

    Posting here so others / juniors like me get some info and Seniors / Doctor's can advice us.

     

    Juniors like me here should learn and read the supplement or medicine contents/compositions to figure out what exactly it contains & for expert info ask here in forum.

     

    Example:

    Cobalamin means Vitamin B12

    Vitamin B6 is Pyridoxine and Vitamin H is called Biotin or Vitamin B7

     

    mg= milligram

    mcg= micrograms

    g= gram

    kg= kilogram

     

    1000 microgram = 1 milligram = .001 gram

     

    I know all Bald-win's are smart, but still just to put things into perspective. So... :D

     

    Now how to search similar (means same composition) and Cheaper drugs/medicine.

     

    India Specific

    ::Welcome to Medguideindia.com:::: Your Ultimate Medicine Guide

     

    India + World

    free login might be required

    Search Drug Information, Interactions, Images, Dosage & Side Effects | MIMS.com USA

     

    Tricks how to search faster and with more options and accuracy.

     

    Example: type in google searchbox medguideindia "biotin-5 mg"/"copper-3 mg" will get you results for all drugs/medicine matching

    biotin-5 mg and copper- 2 mg together in a drug/medicine.

    See Link: medguideindia "biotin-5 mg"*"copper- 3 mg" - Google Search

     

    And if you type medguideindia "biotin-5 mg" "copper-2 mg" will get you results for all drugs/medicine matching either biotin-5 mg or copper- 2 mg in a drug/medicine.

    See link: medguideindia "biotin-5 mg"/"copper- 3 mg" - Google Search

     

    Same and few more search tricks can be applied elsewhere on the internet and other sites.

    Admin's/Mod's can write a detail post on that.

     

    Important vitamins + mineral's from Hairloss point of view (along with their scientific name).

     

    Note: Supplements should be taken earlier, or in the middle of a larger meal.

    It is also advisable not to lie down right after taking pills. it is better to split it up into smaller doses to not interfere with the absorption of other nutrients.

     

    Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin) 6mg

    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) 2mg

    Vitamin H(Biotin) or Vitamin B7 300mcg (upto 30 mg can be taken)

    Iron (and the blood iron carrier ferritin) 18mg

    Zinc 15mg

    Copper 2mg

    Selenium 70mcg

    Silica (silicon dioxide) 5 to 20 mg

     

    The list above is the most essential vitamins / supplement we require to stop hair loss.

     

    And further a list below as per specific body requirements and deficiencies.

     

    Essential amino acid Milligrams of amino acid per gram of complete protein (on average)

     

    Histidine 18

    Isoleucine 25

    Lysine 55

    Leucine 51

    Methionine & Cysteine 25

    Phenylalanine & Tyrosine 47

    Threonine 27

    Tryptophan 7

    Valine 32

     

    Some more amino acids :

     

    N-acetyl -L- cysteine (NAC)- 250 to 1500 mg

    Para-aminobenzoic acid or PABA- 300 to 400 mg

    L-lysine- 12 mg daily for each kilogram or 2. 2lbs of your body weight.

    Tryptophan or 5- HTP- 300 to 900 mg

     

    Hair Enzymes & Hormones:

     

    Natural Proteolytic Enzyme Bromelain- 500 to 1500 mcg

    Dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA - upto 50 mg per day

    Melatonin(sleep hormone)- 1 to 3 mg

    Natural progesterone- 30 to 150 drops

     

    Info Sources:

    Natural Hair care products & supplements

    hair loss and hair growth information

     

     

    Complete list: Dietary allowance recommended by (RDA)

    link: Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) for a 30 year old male

     

    Vitamin A (Retinol) 5, 000 iu or around 900 mcg

    Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) 90 mg

    Vitamin D (Calciferol) 400 IU or around 5 mcg

    Vitamin E (Tocoferol) 30 IU or around 15 mcg

    Vitamin K (K1,phylloquinone/K2,menaquinone/K3,menaphthone) 80 mcg

    Thiamin (B- 1) 1. 5 mg

    Riboflavin (B- 2) 1. 7 mg

    Niacin (B- 3) 20 mg

    Vitamin Pyridoxcin (B- 6) 2 mg

    Folate/Vitamin B9 (Folic Acid) 400 mcg

    Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin) 6 mcg

    Vitamin B7/H Biotin 300 mcg

    Pantothenic Acid (B- 5) 10 mg

    Calcium 1, 000 mg

    Magnesium 400 mg

    Phosphorous 1, 000 mg

    Chloride 3, 400 mg

    Chromium 120 mcg

    Copper 2 mg

    Iodine 150 mcg

    Iron 18 mg

    Manganese 2 mg

    Molybdenum 75 mcg

    Selenium 70 mcg

    Zinc 15 mg

    potassium = 4.7* (g)

    sodium = 1.5* (g)

    chloride = 2.3* (g)

     

    *means even they are not sure. :confused:

     

    Disclaimer : I'm not related to any website or link here directly or indirectly. All info here is stolen from various sources including internet. Except my own details :cool:

    Users here should use this info for further research only. I'm not a Doctor /Pharmacist or researcher.

     

    Now my main concern.

     

    I've made a list of Medicated (Synthetic) (not generic, as I don't trust generic one & they cost a ton comparatively) vitamins/supplement, Drug/medcine names on basis of their cost/goodness & availability in India.

     

    Price is mentioned in INR (Indian National Rupees) or (Rs.)

    1 US Dollar(US$) = around Rs. 50 (for easy conversation)

    (Example: 10 Tablets for Rs. 50 means 10 Tablets for US$ 1)

     

    Seeking advice from Seniors / Doctors on which are looking better options from the list below. Or/Else they would like to suggest some.

    I'm looking for some less costly single pill for all Vitamins+Minerals(with Biotin & Silica) along with all 22 amino acids (with PABA) and Proteolytic Enzyme Bromelain,Dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA, Melatonin alongwith Progesterone enzyme. Now this is a pure greed... :o yeah! I know :)

     

    1. Adventure Life Sciences Pvt Ltd

    Zincoaid Tablet:

    Vit B2-10 mg

    Vit B6-2 mg

    Vit B12-7.5 mg

    Vit C-75 mg

    Vit D3-400 iu

    Vit E-15 iu

    Niacinamide-50 mg

    Calcium Pantothenate-10 mg

    Biotin-150 mcg

    Magnesium Oxide-30 mg

    Manganese Sulphate-2.5 mg

    Copper Sulphate-2 mg

    Selenium-70 mcg

    Potassium Iodine-150 mcg

    Chromium Picolinate-25 mcg

    Colloidal Silicon Dioxide-1 mg

    Sodium Borate-150 mcg

    Sodium Molybdenum-25 mcg

    Zinc Sulphate-63 mg

    Vit A-5000 iu

    Vit B1-10 mg

    Folic Acid-1 mg 10 Tablet for Rs. 30

    Very popular with doctors here in India for copper, zinc and vitamin supplements. Often doctors prescribe Zincovit which is same but comes with .5mg copper,and Zincoaid contains 2mg copper. Hence I chosen Zincoaid in my list.

     

    3. Abbott Healthcare Pvt Ltd (AHPL)

    Supradyn Tablet:

    Vit B12-15 mcg

    Dried Ferrous Sulphate-32.04 mg

    Vit H-0.25 mg

    Sodium Borate-0.88 mg

    Sodium Molybdate-0.25 mg

    Magnesium Oxide-60 mg

    Vit D-1000 iu

    Vit A-10000 iu

    Vit C-150 mg

    Vit E-25 mg

    Manganese Sulphate-2.03 mg

    Nicotinamide-100 mg

    Copper Sulphate-3.39 mg

    Calcium Pantothenate-16.3 mg

    Vit B6-3 mg

    Vit B2-10 mg

    Zinc Sulphate-2.2 mg

    Vit B1-10 mg

    Calcium Phosphorus-129 mg 15 Tablet Rs.17

    Again very popular & heard that it is very good.

    Form an American point a view, half a dollar and a month supply of vitamins & minerals :P

     

    4. Mano (Orchid Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals Ltd.) Oxivim Capsule:

    Folic Acid-1 mg

    Calcium-150 mcg

    Vit D3-200 iu

    Zinc Sulphate-41.4 mg

    Niacinamide-50 mg

    Calcium Pantothenate-12.5 mg

    Vit A-5000 iu

    Vit C-100 mg

    Vit E-25 mg

    Cyanocobalamin-10 mcg

    Pyridoxine-3 mg

    Riboflavin-10 mg

    Thiamine-10 mg

    Ferrous Sulphate-40 mg

    Manganese-2.5 mg

    Sodium Selenate-100 mcg

    Elemental Copper-3 mg

    Biotin-30 mg 10 Capsule Rs. 48

    For around 3US$ a month supply. I want to take this, as it covers basically all + 30 mg of Biotin and 100 mcg selenium along 3 mg of copper and 41 mg Zinc almost same amout of Iron.

    Seniors Please Advice.

     

    5. Manufacturer Aden Healthcare Contents

    NAVTIC tab:

    nettle leaf extract 50 mg,

    saw palmetto 10 mg,

    calcium pantothenate 100 mg,

    para-aminobenzoic acid 50 mg,

    Elemental zinc 25 mg,

    L-lysine 10 mg,

    biotin 10 mg,

    Elemental manganese 5 mg,

    inositol 5 mg,

    Elemental copper 2 mg,

    folic acid 750 mcg,

    Elemental selenium 65 mcg.

    (Max Retail Price) NAVTIC tab 10's (75 INR)

    For around 4US$ a month supply. This is also good with some herbal goodness thrown in like :nattle leaf extract & saw plametto along with amino acid and PABA, but I've to club this with one more pill like Zincoaid or Supradyn (see above) to complete the course which I want to avoid. I strictly want to be on 1 pill regime for all obvious reasons.

     

    6. Manufacturer Universal Contents

    RADIANCE-H soft-gelatin caps:

    collagen peptides (type 1) 175 mg,

    grape seed extract 10 mg,

    green tea extract 10 mg,

    calcium pantothenate 25 mg,

    nicotinamide 20 mg,

    vitamin C 15 mg,

    biotin 10 mg,

    choline bitartrate 10 mg,

    inositol 10 mg,

    folic acid 5 mg,

    vitamin B6 1.5 mg,

    L-methionine 40 mg,

    l-cysteine 10 mg,

    L-lysine 10 mg,

    zinc 7.5 mg,

    iron 7.5 mg,

    copper 2 mg,

    silica 2 mg,

    selenium 0.05 mg.

    (Max Retail Price) RADIANCE-H soft-gelatin caps 15 for Rs.142

    More expensive options with some herb goodness + amino acids, but this has to be clubbed with Supradyn etc. to make it a complete course.

     

    7. Follihair Tablet:

    L- Lysine- 20 mg

    Niacinamide-50mg

    Calcium Pantothenate- 50mg

    Selenium-50 mcg

    Manganese- 5mg

    Zinc- 25 mg

    Copper- 2 mg

    Iron- 8 mg

    Biotin- 10 mg

    Di-Methionine- 40mg

    L- Cysteine-5 mg

    10 Tablet for Rs. 95

    Some biotin+amino acids, Expensive in comparison

     

    8. FOLLIDERM tab:

    biotin 5 mg,

    zinc oxide 25 mg,

    manganese sulphate 5mg,

    cupric oxide 2 mg,

    sodium selenite 40 mcg.

    10 tablets for Rs. 66

    Most popular with HairLoss Doctors here in India.

    Although better & less costly options like Skinvit and Oxivim (see list) are available. (Some seniors might like to explain this)

     

    9. Apex Laboratories Limited

    Zincovit Folic Acid-1 mg

    Vit B12- 7. 5 mcg

    Vit D3- 400 iu

    Vit B1- 10 mg

    Niacinamide-50mg

    Vit B2- 10 mg

    Vit B6- 2 mg

    Iodine-150 mcg

    Magnesium-18mg

    Vit A-5000 iu

    Vit C-75 mg

    Vit E- 15 mg

    Selenium-50 mcg

    Manganese-0 .9mg

    Zinc- 22 mg

    Copper-0 .5 mg

    Chromium

    (Chromic) -25 mcg

    Molybdenum-25mcg

    Carbohydrate-0.2gm

    Biotin-150 mcg

    Vit B5- 10 mg

    A lot of Doctors prescribe this with folliderm and minoxidil 5% alongwith some antifungle topical shampoo. Though less costly options like Supradyn, Zincoaid or Becasule-Z or Allnid(see below) not considered.

    (This is the prescription of 99% Hairloss doctors in India) :confused:

     

    10. Psychotropics India Limited

    Skinvit: Tablet

    Betacarotene-15 mg

    Vit D3-400 iu

    Vit B1-10 mg

    Niacinamide-18 mg

    Vit B2-10 mg

    Vit B6-3 mg

    Magnesium-50 mg

    Vit A-2500 iu

    Vit E-25 mg

    Iodine-200 mcg

    Silicon-3 mg

    Cysteine-10 mg

    Biotin-5 mg

    Calcium D Pantothenate-30 mg

    Chromium (Chromic)-50 mcg

    Selenium-100 mcg

    Folic Acid-1000 mcg

    Manganese-3 mg

    Zinc-15 mg

    Vit B12-9 mcg

    Vit C-75 mg 15 Tablet for Rs. 52

    Good... Less costly comparatively. Also got 3mg of Silica, Cysteine 10mg But lack Copper, Iron and sufficient Zinc else could have been a 2US$ a month Solution. :)

     

    11. Ramose Laboratories Pvt. Ltd.

    Allnid Capsule:

    Vit A-50000 iu

    L-Lysine -50 mg

    Zinc Sulphate-20mg

    Vitamin (B12) /Cyanocobalamin-10mcg

    Vitamin (B5)/Calcium

    Pantothenate-25mg

    Vitamin (B6)/Pyridoxine- 3 mg

    Vit ©/Ascorbic Acid- 75mg

    Vit (B2)/Riboflavin-10 mg

    Vit(B1)/Thiamine-10 mg

    Vit(E)/Tocopherol- 10 mg

    Vit(D3)/Cholecalciferol-500iu

    100 Capsule for Rs. 30

    Zinc + Amino acid L-Lysine with all essential Vitamins supply for 6 Months in Just a dollar. If you search you'll find more like this.

    I found variable of this is used in Red Cross , UNESCO for vitamin and zinc supplement.

     

    Thanks to all for reading such lengthy post.

    Do post your comments inputs and contribute to list to make it useful.

     

    Seniors & Doctors Please post your inputs.

     

    Thankyou & Good Luck to All

    Regards

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