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Hi All, I'm Male/30/72 kg./180cm. from India suffering from hair thinning / loss for past few years. This post is for Junios here or People like me who are facing Vitamin/Supplement V/S Price/Quality/Availability Dilemma I've planned to start some non "DHT Inhibitor" treatment for my Norwood 4/5/5a & thinning hairs with Minoxidil 5% (topical solution) & Ketoconazole-2 % based shampoo but got too confused on vitamins and supplements. I'm not too sure but I think I'm ALSO suffering from followings which might or might not be responsible for my hair thinning/loss. 1. Midlife crises http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midlife_crisis 2. Delayed sleep-phase syndrome (DSPS) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_syndrome 3. Dandruff (looks like I've overactive sebaceous glands, though I'm not sure) Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandruff 4. Back Pain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_pain My food/work routine for past few year's were very bad so I knew I have to pump up my vitamin/mineral/amino acids intake. What I've understood from internet & other sources from a layman's perspective. Posting here so others / juniors like me get some info and Seniors / Doctor's can advice us. Juniors like me here should learn and read the supplement or medicine contents/compositions to figure out what exactly it contains & for expert info ask here in forum. Example: Cobalamin means Vitamin B12 Vitamin B6 is Pyridoxine and Vitamin H is called Biotin or Vitamin B7 mg= milligram mcg= micrograms g= gram kg= kilogram 1000 microgram = 1 milligram = .001 gram I know all Bald-win's are smart, but still just to put things into perspective. So... Now how to search similar (means same composition) and Cheaper drugs/medicine. India Specific ::Welcome to Medguideindia.com:::: Your Ultimate Medicine Guide India + World free login might be required Search Drug Information, Interactions, Images, Dosage & Side Effects | MIMS.com USA Tricks how to search faster and with more options and accuracy. Example: type in google searchbox medguideindia "biotin-5 mg"/"copper-3 mg" will get you results for all drugs/medicine matching biotin-5 mg and copper- 2 mg together in a drug/medicine. See Link: medguideindia "biotin-5 mg"*"copper- 3 mg" - Google Search And if you type medguideindia "biotin-5 mg" "copper-2 mg" will get you results for all drugs/medicine matching either biotin-5 mg or copper- 2 mg in a drug/medicine. See link: medguideindia "biotin-5 mg"/"copper- 3 mg" - Google Search Same and few more search tricks can be applied elsewhere on the internet and other sites. Admin's/Mod's can write a detail post on that. Important vitamins + mineral's from Hairloss point of view (along with their scientific name). Note: Supplements should be taken earlier, or in the middle of a larger meal. It is also advisable not to lie down right after taking pills. it is better to split it up into smaller doses to not interfere with the absorption of other nutrients. Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin) 6mg Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) 2mg Vitamin H(Biotin) or Vitamin B7 300mcg (upto 30 mg can be taken) Iron (and the blood iron carrier ferritin) 18mg Zinc 15mg Copper 2mg Selenium 70mcg Silica (silicon dioxide) 5 to 20 mg The list above is the most essential vitamins / supplement we require to stop hair loss. And further a list below as per specific body requirements and deficiencies. Essential amino acid Milligrams of amino acid per gram of complete protein (on average) Histidine 18 Isoleucine 25 Lysine 55 Leucine 51 Methionine & Cysteine 25 Phenylalanine & Tyrosine 47 Threonine 27 Tryptophan 7 Valine 32 Some more amino acids : N-acetyl -L- cysteine (NAC)- 250 to 1500 mg Para-aminobenzoic acid or PABA- 300 to 400 mg L-lysine- 12 mg daily for each kilogram or 2. 2lbs of your body weight. Tryptophan or 5- HTP- 300 to 900 mg Hair Enzymes & Hormones: Natural Proteolytic Enzyme Bromelain- 500 to 1500 mcg Dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA - upto 50 mg per day Melatonin(sleep hormone)- 1 to 3 mg Natural progesterone- 30 to 150 drops Info Sources: Natural Hair care products & supplements hair loss and hair growth information Complete list: Dietary allowance recommended by (RDA) link: Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) for a 30 year old male Vitamin A (Retinol) 5, 000 iu or around 900 mcg Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) 90 mg Vitamin D (Calciferol) 400 IU or around 5 mcg Vitamin E (Tocoferol) 30 IU or around 15 mcg Vitamin K (K1,phylloquinone/K2,menaquinone/K3,menaphthone) 80 mcg Thiamin (B- 1) 1. 5 mg Riboflavin (B- 2) 1. 7 mg Niacin (B- 3) 20 mg Vitamin Pyridoxcin (B- 6) 2 mg Folate/Vitamin B9 (Folic Acid) 400 mcg Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin) 6 mcg Vitamin B7/H Biotin 300 mcg Pantothenic Acid (B- 5) 10 mg Calcium 1, 000 mg Magnesium 400 mg Phosphorous 1, 000 mg Chloride 3, 400 mg Chromium 120 mcg Copper 2 mg Iodine 150 mcg Iron 18 mg Manganese 2 mg Molybdenum 75 mcg Selenium 70 mcg Zinc 15 mg potassium = 4.7* (g) sodium = 1.5* (g) chloride = 2.3* (g) *means even they are not sure. :confused: Disclaimer : I'm not related to any website or link here directly or indirectly. All info here is stolen from various sources including internet. Except my own details :cool: Users here should use this info for further research only. I'm not a Doctor /Pharmacist or researcher. Now my main concern. I've made a list of Medicated (Synthetic) (not generic, as I don't trust generic one & they cost a ton comparatively) vitamins/supplement, Drug/medcine names on basis of their cost/goodness & availability in India. Price is mentioned in INR (Indian National Rupees) or (Rs.) 1 US Dollar(US$) = around Rs. 50 (for easy conversation) (Example: 10 Tablets for Rs. 50 means 10 Tablets for US$ 1) Seeking advice from Seniors / Doctors on which are looking better options from the list below. Or/Else they would like to suggest some. I'm looking for some less costly single pill for all Vitamins+Minerals(with Biotin & Silica) along with all 22 amino acids (with PABA) and Proteolytic Enzyme Bromelain,Dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA, Melatonin alongwith Progesterone enzyme. Now this is a pure greed... yeah! I know 1. Adventure Life Sciences Pvt Ltd Zincoaid Tablet: Vit B2-10 mg Vit B6-2 mg Vit B12-7.5 mg Vit C-75 mg Vit D3-400 iu Vit E-15 iu Niacinamide-50 mg Calcium Pantothenate-10 mg Biotin-150 mcg Magnesium Oxide-30 mg Manganese Sulphate-2.5 mg Copper Sulphate-2 mg Selenium-70 mcg Potassium Iodine-150 mcg Chromium Picolinate-25 mcg Colloidal Silicon Dioxide-1 mg Sodium Borate-150 mcg Sodium Molybdenum-25 mcg Zinc Sulphate-63 mg Vit A-5000 iu Vit B1-10 mg Folic Acid-1 mg 10 Tablet for Rs. 30 Very popular with doctors here in India for copper, zinc and vitamin supplements. Often doctors prescribe Zincovit which is same but comes with .5mg copper,and Zincoaid contains 2mg copper. Hence I chosen Zincoaid in my list. 3. Abbott Healthcare Pvt Ltd (AHPL) Supradyn Tablet: Vit B12-15 mcg Dried Ferrous Sulphate-32.04 mg Vit H-0.25 mg Sodium Borate-0.88 mg Sodium Molybdate-0.25 mg Magnesium Oxide-60 mg Vit D-1000 iu Vit A-10000 iu Vit C-150 mg Vit E-25 mg Manganese Sulphate-2.03 mg Nicotinamide-100 mg Copper Sulphate-3.39 mg Calcium Pantothenate-16.3 mg Vit B6-3 mg Vit B2-10 mg Zinc Sulphate-2.2 mg Vit B1-10 mg Calcium Phosphorus-129 mg 15 Tablet Rs.17 Again very popular & heard that it is very good. Form an American point a view, half a dollar and a month supply of vitamins & minerals 4. Mano (Orchid Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals Ltd.) Oxivim Capsule: Folic Acid-1 mg Calcium-150 mcg Vit D3-200 iu Zinc Sulphate-41.4 mg Niacinamide-50 mg Calcium Pantothenate-12.5 mg Vit A-5000 iu Vit C-100 mg Vit E-25 mg Cyanocobalamin-10 mcg Pyridoxine-3 mg Riboflavin-10 mg Thiamine-10 mg Ferrous Sulphate-40 mg Manganese-2.5 mg Sodium Selenate-100 mcg Elemental Copper-3 mg Biotin-30 mg 10 Capsule Rs. 48 For around 3US$ a month supply. I want to take this, as it covers basically all + 30 mg of Biotin and 100 mcg selenium along 3 mg of copper and 41 mg Zinc almost same amout of Iron. Seniors Please Advice. 5. Manufacturer Aden Healthcare Contents NAVTIC tab: nettle leaf extract 50 mg, saw palmetto 10 mg, calcium pantothenate 100 mg, para-aminobenzoic acid 50 mg, Elemental zinc 25 mg, L-lysine 10 mg, biotin 10 mg, Elemental manganese 5 mg, inositol 5 mg, Elemental copper 2 mg, folic acid 750 mcg, Elemental selenium 65 mcg. (Max Retail Price) NAVTIC tab 10's (75 INR) For around 4US$ a month supply. This is also good with some herbal goodness thrown in like :nattle leaf extract & saw plametto along with amino acid and PABA, but I've to club this with one more pill like Zincoaid or Supradyn (see above) to complete the course which I want to avoid. I strictly want to be on 1 pill regime for all obvious reasons. 6. Manufacturer Universal Contents RADIANCE-H soft-gelatin caps: collagen peptides (type 1) 175 mg, grape seed extract 10 mg, green tea extract 10 mg, calcium pantothenate 25 mg, nicotinamide 20 mg, vitamin C 15 mg, biotin 10 mg, choline bitartrate 10 mg, inositol 10 mg, folic acid 5 mg, vitamin B6 1.5 mg, L-methionine 40 mg, l-cysteine 10 mg, L-lysine 10 mg, zinc 7.5 mg, iron 7.5 mg, copper 2 mg, silica 2 mg, selenium 0.05 mg. (Max Retail Price) RADIANCE-H soft-gelatin caps 15 for Rs.142 More expensive options with some herb goodness + amino acids, but this has to be clubbed with Supradyn etc. to make it a complete course. 7. Follihair Tablet: L- Lysine- 20 mg Niacinamide-50mg Calcium Pantothenate- 50mg Selenium-50 mcg Manganese- 5mg Zinc- 25 mg Copper- 2 mg Iron- 8 mg Biotin- 10 mg Di-Methionine- 40mg L- Cysteine-5 mg 10 Tablet for Rs. 95 Some biotin+amino acids, Expensive in comparison 8. FOLLIDERM tab: biotin 5 mg, zinc oxide 25 mg, manganese sulphate 5mg, cupric oxide 2 mg, sodium selenite 40 mcg. 10 tablets for Rs. 66 Most popular with HairLoss Doctors here in India. Although better & less costly options like Skinvit and Oxivim (see list) are available. (Some seniors might like to explain this) 9. Apex Laboratories Limited Zincovit Folic Acid-1 mg Vit B12- 7. 5 mcg Vit D3- 400 iu Vit B1- 10 mg Niacinamide-50mg Vit B2- 10 mg Vit B6- 2 mg Iodine-150 mcg Magnesium-18mg Vit A-5000 iu Vit C-75 mg Vit E- 15 mg Selenium-50 mcg Manganese-0 .9mg Zinc- 22 mg Copper-0 .5 mg Chromium (Chromic) -25 mcg Molybdenum-25mcg Carbohydrate-0.2gm Biotin-150 mcg Vit B5- 10 mg A lot of Doctors prescribe this with folliderm and minoxidil 5% alongwith some antifungle topical shampoo. Though less costly options like Supradyn, Zincoaid or Becasule-Z or Allnid(see below) not considered. (This is the prescription of 99% Hairloss doctors in India) :confused: 10. Psychotropics India Limited Skinvit: Tablet Betacarotene-15 mg Vit D3-400 iu Vit B1-10 mg Niacinamide-18 mg Vit B2-10 mg Vit B6-3 mg Magnesium-50 mg Vit A-2500 iu Vit E-25 mg Iodine-200 mcg Silicon-3 mg Cysteine-10 mg Biotin-5 mg Calcium D Pantothenate-30 mg Chromium (Chromic)-50 mcg Selenium-100 mcg Folic Acid-1000 mcg Manganese-3 mg Zinc-15 mg Vit B12-9 mcg Vit C-75 mg 15 Tablet for Rs. 52 Good... Less costly comparatively. Also got 3mg of Silica, Cysteine 10mg But lack Copper, Iron and sufficient Zinc else could have been a 2US$ a month Solution. 11. Ramose Laboratories Pvt. Ltd. Allnid Capsule: Vit A-50000 iu L-Lysine -50 mg Zinc Sulphate-20mg Vitamin (B12) /Cyanocobalamin-10mcg Vitamin (B5)/Calcium Pantothenate-25mg Vitamin (B6)/Pyridoxine- 3 mg Vit ©/Ascorbic Acid- 75mg Vit (B2)/Riboflavin-10 mg Vit(B1)/Thiamine-10 mg Vit(E)/Tocopherol- 10 mg Vit(D3)/Cholecalciferol-500iu 100 Capsule for Rs. 30 Zinc + Amino acid L-Lysine with all essential Vitamins supply for 6 Months in Just a dollar. If you search you'll find more like this. I found variable of this is used in Red Cross , UNESCO for vitamin and zinc supplement. Thanks to all for reading such lengthy post. Do post your comments inputs and contribute to list to make it useful. Seniors & Doctors Please post your inputs. Thankyou & Good Luck to All Regards