recedingboy

I've had some streaks as well, thinner though. Check ur PM

If it was not mentioned already, Dr. Sethi uses the PCID tool.

Pkk: I know for FUE, you should not do much (in terms of applying things) for 10-14 days. Grafts are in after 3 days, but 10-14 days should be safe before putting product. Check with the DR though if you can.

It is looking better now. Hopefully it is completely gone (can't really notice it anymore and I'd have to shave to find out).

While informative, what this video fails to acknowledge is that some clinics that have demonstrated home run successes time and time again use motorized punch tools, namely PCID.

How much does Feller charge for a manual punch procedure? As I recall $11/graft was a few years ago for his motorized assisted procedure. One can only assume, due to his statements of non motorized procedures requiring more time and effort, that it is greater than $11 per graft. While he is perfectly entitled to charge what he wishes, the point - is that practical for most folks to spend? I'm sure a great salesmen type rebuttal to that would be, "what is the value of your appearance," or "what is the value of your confidence."

After years of shifting through lots of data on here, studying pictures, reading on different forums, in the end I realized one thing: the HD videos, HD pictures, and in person results 1 year+ later, in other words the OUTPUT of a clinic is what counts at the end of the day. Everything else is B.S.

Those of us that live in the U.S. know that malpractice insurance is high for a reason here- doctors are commonly held accountable for their actions. That is not the case in Belgium or Turkey. Patients do not have strong rights and medical qualifications in order to open up shop in those countries have lower bars than in the U.S. So for those of us Americans that wish to preserve our right to sue (and actually win - which incentivizes U.S. doctors to do well) and get it done in the U.S. what are we left with? If that or the higher medical bar in the U.S. is not an important consideration for someone, and the numerous well documented cases of successful patients/in person meetings with former patients instills sufficient confidence to where the legal or medical component becomes a moot point - great for them.

It seems to me that, while most of us on here are well aware that manual FUE is the gold standard for FUE, it is not easily attainable in the U.S. Practically speaking, if manual FUE prices were to drop in the U.S., it would not be in a place like NYC, rather probably out of a lower cost of living (southern?) state that is able to find talent amongst at a lower wage.

On the point of medical qualifications, I have visited and thoroughly researched a number clinics around the world and I will say that the most medically qualified individual I have probably met his Dr. Konior out of Chicago. I am tremendously impressed with his medical qualifications, almost OCD obsession he is known to have for his work, and the fact he does it all by himself. Just wish he did manual FUE.

After years of posting on this forum, and 16 years posting on various other forums with the same username, I finally got an HT done (FUE) a few days ago. I will share more details, photos, impressions, etc. soon rest assured.

But in the meantime, I wanted to know if other patients have experienced wavy/wrinkle patch in the donor area as shown in the picture. The rest of the head was also used as donor, but this one patch has this wrinkle look. Photo taken today, post op day 5. I am sleeping upright with a neck pillow. Am applying bacitrain. Will it go away or anything I can do about the wrinkles?

Hey Sean,

In reply to your question on the other forum, it states (paraphrased) "I agree not to take Dr. X or clinic to court, instead I agree to pursue this through arbitration"

Did Dr. R require it?

Thanks

Some surgeons wait until they have your deposit to send you such paperwork and some may only let you view informed consents at their office and only on the day of surgery.

 

There are few surgeons that openly disclose everything prior to deposit. I think it is best to go to those that give you plenty of time and inform of everything involved up front prior to a deposit. Once they have your money, it is non-refundable in almost all cases.

 

I think for more and more people to avoid surgeons with such practices, entity recommended or not, for their own safety and comfort in the long run. You don't want to be in position where things screw up during the procedure or something happens to be stuck with a doc that says oh well you signed this and sorry i dont have to help you etc etc etc... After all, this is a major artistic form of highly visible cosmetic surgery. This is why some folks rarely report on the forums but talk about their mishaps behind the scenes. I know multiple folks that had to go for touchups or from some forum reported high skill docs, where they dont mention it online. I also know of folks with cases where the doctors did wrong and do not refund or help patient after everything was done, most of these cases have been reported to proper powerful authorities including closed/open forum posts, if any. It is always important to view entire surgical consent forms up front priot to deposit being paid and I can't stress this enough. If the doc does not disclose this, then move onto another doctor that does. But every part of this process needs to be done with transparency with no surprises later. I dont care if a doc is business or forum recommended or not, transparancy with paperwork prior to deposit should be a priority in this industry. It saves a lot if headache.

I just put down a deposit on a surgeon recommended by this website.

AFTER putting down the deposit, I was provided paperwork along with an arbitration agreement. I understand this may restrict or diminish my ability to pursue legal action against the clinic.

Is this usual or common?

Clinic is U.S. based.

Please respond asap as I have only a day or two to cancel without losing the deposit if necessary.

Thank you

Hey Sean,

Have you consulted with Dr. Diep out of San Fran? His results seem good. Interested in anyone's take on that surgeon.

Folically Challenged:

Please update!

Good growing Scooter. Thanks again for the feedback the other day. You have just crossed the halfway point, i think your going to have an awesome result.

Questionmark:

I found some examples of the not so perfect hairline I was referring to.

The first one, in particular. I cant put my finger on it but it doesnt look feathered or that natural.

I'd like to hear everyones thoughts. Why do some of the results look very natural and some like in the above videos?

Questionmark:

i want to somewhat take back what I said. I saw your latest photos and I think your hairline looks good. I think before I said fair. It looks natural to me, and if I wanted to get an FUE procedure, I would seriously consider Dr. B.

Very good results from a motorized punch. I'm impressed overall. I think seeing more patients in person, or perhaps even a video with your hair sans product would seal my so far positive impression.

I would be happy if I were you (I'm sure you are!)

Does Dr. K use manual punch tools or motorized? Do you what size punch(es) were used? Good luck

I've had two procedures with Dr. K and the fast healing & short down-time and minimal redness compared to other doctors is indeed a major plus.

Second procedure was under 1,000 grafts and non-shaved, after 4-5 days you could not tell anything had been done.

Implication being that your larger procedure had you shaved down. Was that per doctor's orders, or was the need for shaving down simply never discussed pre-op?

Please provide updated photos, and also did you notice any scarring/discoloration from the punched (donor) area?

First you need to determine what kind of procedure you want, FUE (shave your head before the procedure, entirely), or FUT (no head shaving required, but often recipient area is shaved if hair loss pattern dictates).

Neither one of them is good for FUE. Dr. Radha does not perform it unless it is a very tiny procedure, like 500 grafts, and Rahal is not consistently good at it with multiple FUE failures (look up Sean).

Rahal IS aggressive (as is the Canadian counterpart, Hasson and wong), but he is good for FUT.

I personally would probably stay in India, get a HT, and then get a second pass later on if so desired. I have had an in person consult with Rahal and have toured his clinic.

edit:

Added Dr. Arocha to the list as he too does not require shaving.

original post:

"Been lurking these forums for years, have had multiple in person consultations. Went through the FUE vs. FUT analysis.

Based on my need to return to my lifestyle quickly and without raising flags, I have decided to get an FUT procedure. The reason is that the best FUE docs require shaving, whereas some top FUT docs do not require shaving.

I can go in for 1-2 FUE scar revisions in the future if the scar bothers me.

I have had in person consults with Konior, Wesley and others.

The two aforementioned docs have good reviews and can pull of the procedure discretely I feel.

I'm having a tough time deciding between the two. Dr. K recommended 3,000 grafts for me, Dr. W recommended about 2200. Dr. K is known for his hairlines, Dr. W has a number of impressive photos.

Please give me your opinions."

Hi Fellas....

If you have had work from Dr. K. PLEASE PM ME. I'm on the fence about it and would like to discuss with someone.

THANKS

I believe both use motorized punches, so I'd go with Bhatti as he is cheaper and has shown a lot of good results.

Be prepared to travel. Closest respectable docs are Arocha and Limmer in S.A. Otherwise consider shapiro, feller, konior. For FUE, go to Europe or Turkey.

Wait this was the guy bashing Pak-India and now promoting Chinese?

MODS: please ban this guy immediately for obvious reasons.

With the amount of money you might save I'd consider flying to India for vacation and just having an in person consultation. Ask for her to provide a date that you might view in person a post 12 month op patient and view a surgery live.

The info I have read seems she is detailed and has a formalized plan for each patient.

I do not recall if she does lateral slits or coronal but HW does and it does seem to increase the appearance of density. If the trip to India was not possible and I had to place a bet blindly, I'd place it on HW.

honestly if you are open to motorized punches and are on a tight budget you should go to Dr. Bhatti in Chandigarh, india. He is like a buck a graft or something. Even with the hotel and transport it would be so much cheaper.

I do not represent him, but appreciate the void he fills in the marketplace for high quality surgeons at extremely affordable prices.

looking for updated pics. one of dr. b's better hairlines I think. really like the design and slight erratic-ness.