ulko

Granted, one-off treatments with a laser comb will probably not affect hair loss to any noticeable degree. Continually wearing a "laser cap," though, is a whole different story imo. Lasers can be used to cause vasodilation, which basically is what minoxidil accomplishes as well.

I don't think the laser cap should be discounted yet, just because of the limited results we've seen with the combs.

Yeah, I was referring to the hair duplication formerly known as "autocloning" aspect of ACell. However, while I can understand the merit/science behind plucking, I'll admit that transecting an actual follicle for partial implantation seems quite different and it would be interesting to view the literature supporting this technique.

There have been studies showing that transected follicles have the potential to regenerate. A quick search gives this for example (on horizontally transected follicles): Hair Regeneration from Transected Follicles in Duplicative Surgery: Rate of Success and Cell Populations Involved - TOSCANI - 2009 - Dermatologic Surgery - Wiley Online Library

The problem with any kind of transection is that you will remove a part of the basic follicular structure, whereas in plucking, both what's left in the donor and in the transplanted follicle will provide a quite precise scaffold in which the follicle can regenerate. If Gho's paper is valid, he actually provides statistically significant data that the hair in the donor will grow back thinner, which imo owes to the above.

I'm a bit confused ...

 

Is the idea here that a part of the follicle is removed, treated with a solution, implanted in the scalp, and then (because of the solution) inducts the regrowth of a fully functioning follicle in the implanted scalp?

 

If so, how is this different from ACell?

Yep, that's the much controversial Gho for you. He basically transects the follicles longitudinally by using a small punch on a 3 hair FU, as is my understanding. I very much doubt full regrowth in the donor, since the amount of tissue that is removed should be sufficient to induce fibrosis.

If you're refering to Hitzig's and Cooley's hair duplication 'autocloning' procedure, the difference with plucking is that only some of the dermal sheath will get transplanted (although the complete way around the follicle). Anecdotally, this should be sufficient, and, since scarring of the donor is much less likely, I don't see a venue for what Gho's doing, even if it actually would work. jm2c :cool:

The job that dr pat did is great on my eyebrows. I already have eyebrows but it was more sparse and asian looking. All he did was add hairs here and there to add density a bit. But not over the top.

 

My transplanted eyebrow hair hasn't fallen off yet and i've trimmed it and it looks great. I already know how it will turn out. But now I just wanted to add few hairs at the starting of the eyebrow.

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Hln2AEigAz4/SZsXN9BRXhI/AAAAAAAARWg/Kg7_LQj7tBo/s400/14.jpg

 

see how at the starting of the eyebrow it points upwards, i want to get that. I do have that but its quite fine and adding few hairs would balance the eyebrow more.

Your choice (obviously) . Personally, I think that that kind of 'eyebrow cowlick' ruins the facial symmetry somewhat. If I could, I'd probably straighten mine out, although it's really not a big deal (in fact, it's a tremendously small deal when I come to think of it). I'd definitely not pay to get it accentuated though. But it all comes down to personal taste I guess

Good luck anyway.

I would be very wary about getting an eyebrow transplant from a doc that I didn't have 110% confidence could do the job. Eyebrow jobs can end up looking messed up, and when they go wrong, they are highly visible. Also, if you're transplanting to the outer rim of the eyebrow, I'd definitely wait for the verdict on Acell, which could give you actual eyebrow hairs instead of hairs taken from the scalp. That's what I'm doing

Good luck!

Why did you use beard hair? This was probably before much testing had been done with acell, but I believe Cooley has stated that scalp hair has a higher yield. Why not give it a go again with the plucking if Cooley can offer it for free? Can't hurt and I reckon that he probably has improved his technique by now. Don't give up ej!

I wouldn't be surprised. This is how the mob works. First, they act as if everything was forgiven. But then... :eek:

They never forget.

This thread is f-ing hilarious!

In the end, you have to admit that there is a certain charm to Dr. Loria's mafia like work ethics. I'd seriously watch out for the horse head, hairthere

Who was your doc? Although I can admit that it looks unusually "bow-shaped" (i.e. going far above your ears), I'm sure that this was intentional. I'd suggest that you contact the clinic and ask.

I can understand that these things can be quite distressing 2 days post op. Hang in there mate!

Dr. Alexander, it's interesting to see that the hypopigmentation from the scar seems to be completely gone. Does she have any cover-up tattoo, or might this a positive side effect from the transplant (or am I only not seeing it in the after photo due to the increased hair count)?

Great job in any case!

Haha, you go Sparky!

Cure for baldness on the horizon as scientists grow world's first hair follicle using stem cells | Mail Online

As always, the cure is 5 years away

To be honest, I really do believe more in the lab route than what Aderans are doing with injections. I just can't see how growth direction can be controlled sufficiently with Aderan's approach.

It's great also to have some folks supposedly from academia working on HM and not only from the private sector. Maybe we can hope for some more transparency this way.

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You could even learn a thing or two from Dr. Loria :confused:

Trust me, shady posts like these will just put Dr. L Shapiro's rep even further down.

Ulko, I am speaking from my own experience (3 hts so far) as well as from what I have seen countless times on these boards. I am now 7.5 months post-op from a fue temple point reconstruction. Growth on one side took off early whereas the other side has lagged behind. Just a few days ago new hairs in the slow-growing side popped up. What's my point? HTs can be, and very often are, unpredictable.

 

Here are just a few examples:

 

Hair Transplant before and after photos

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/145176-8-18-months-important-period.html

 

Also, I'm never really sure how posters like brows benefit from such doom-and-gloom statements as "but I don't think you can hope for much more growth 6 months post op." Have you been in her position before? I certainly have, and I would much rather have had nothing but positive support. If in 4-6 more months she comes back here with no more growth and unsatisfied, then we can be realistic and discuss her options. For now perhaps it makes more sense to keep hope alive. But then again I'm a glass-half-full kind of person....

If the problem in brows' case is just low yield, the surgery was far from a disaster. If there was no shock loss and the hairs that actually do grow blend in well, I'd say: just go for it again! Hair transplants are hardly rocket science. It does work for almost any individual. Only in very rare instances it doesn't. Since barely any of brows' donor was used, it is not the end of the world, even though it might feel like so at this point.

Sorry if I sounded too harsh. It was certainly not my intention to instill any sense of doom-and-gloom

".... but I don't think you can hope for much more growth 6 months post op."

 

I'm sorry but declaring her HT a failure when she has six more months of growth to go is simply wrong.

The follicles enter dormancy due to the trauma from the procedure. The telogen phase in scalp hair is 3-4 months. Any follicle that has not gone into anagen by then will not do so - it has simply suffered too much trauma from the procedure. Sure, there might be some (more or less inexplicable) exceptions to the rule, but to say that 90% of the growth hasn't occured yet 6 months post op is just naive.

It is my understanding that the conception of waiting until the 1 year mark before the final result can be seen has sprung from the fact that there might be some thickening of the transplanted hair even when all of the hair has grown out.

I feel so bad for you. Don't want to let your hopes down, but I don't think you can hope for much more growth 6 months post op. The graft count in eyebrow transplants is usually in the hundreds. A yield of less than 10% is just not sufficient.

The hairs that actually do grow - how do they match in terms of direction and texture to the native hair?

I've never heard of the clinics you've mentioned, but if you feel confident in them and they can provide good before/after pictures, why not?

Do not rush in your selection of a physician, however. Also, have a look at the list of recommended surgeons on this site, and see if there is anyone who suits your needs. If you're looking for a surgeon in Europe, you might have a look at Farjo, Feriduni or Devroye, all of whom I've heard do top class work.

Hey Brows23!

I'm on the hunt for a doc that can do body hair transplants to the eyebrow myself. If possible and done successfully, I think a BHT would be a much better choice over the standard scalp hair transplant, since the growth cycles of body hairs are a very close match to those of eyebrow hair (i.e. trimming the transplanted hair will most likely not be necessary).

Of course, there are possible complications as well, my main concern being that all the transplanted hair will become dormant at the same time (http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=136678). I have yet to get any confirmation if this actually is an issue or not yet, though. If it is, you may need a second, carefully "timed", BHT.

May I ask which clinic in Brussels you are going to? If you're going to Dr. Devroye's, he has actually posted a very good looking eyebrow transplant using armpit hair. Have a look here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=139600

Let us know how things turn out!

Was the native hair miniaturized? If not, they have most likely just entered dormancy because of stress from the surgery and will regrow in 3-4 months time.

I'm no expert, but I think any shampoo will be just fine 20 days post op.

Don't really see why, but I'm from Sweden, my good sir!

I'm primarily considering having either Dr. Devroye or Dr. True perform the procedure. Devroye because he is perhaps the only Coalition doc that does BHT and have promising before/after shots of eyebrow transplants on his webpage. He is also very favorable location-wise. Dr. True because I'm under the impression that he's a stand-up guy and also seems to be very knowledgeable in BHT, although I get a little nervous when looking at the scarring on Sierra6's arm (http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=5401&WebID=1621). I have yet to see some before/after pictures on eyebrow transplants from True though.

I've also contemplated going with Epstein. He has admittedly done loads of eyebrow transplants before, a handful of which I've heard was BHT, and ought to have the experience that is required. But, then again, my gut feeling (and from what I've read here) tells me that there is something fishy about this guy. He seems more into getting patients from marketing and shady SEO tricks (why does he have several different webpages? And "eyebrowtransplantation.com".. come on! ) than from reputation.

..Feeling that I'm starting to go OT, so I think I'll stop now ;D

*bumpedibump*

One last try. Anyone?

Hey matx! Any updates? Hope the donor area has improved since your last post. Seeing as you're well into month three now, you should start seeing some growth in that eyebrow as well!

*bump*

Also, does anyone know when "the third month" kicks in when doing BHT (i.e. how long it takes for the first strands of hair to appear)?

Hi,

I'm considering a HT to my eyebrow to fill in a scar. I'll most likely go down the body hair route, primarily because I don't like the idea of having to trim the transplanted hair every other week. I do have BHs that would make for a good match.

In any case, there is one thing that concerns me a little. As I've understood, all the transplanted follicles become dormant one week or so post surgery. Then, seeing as the telogen phase in relation to the anagen phase in body hairs is very long, there should be a good chance, even with some minor discrepancies in growth cycles, that the transplanted hair will be dormant at the same time even a long time post surgery, and thus still leaving a bald spot at the scar tissue. Or is it that the growth cycles between individual follicles, although transplanted from the same donor area, differ sufficiently that this won't be a problem, even in the short run?

Can someone with more knowledge or experience please enlighten me on this? Help would be greatly appreciated, as I'd really like to go through with a BHT to my eyebrow

Thanks for your suggestion, Timothy! Dr. Umar seems to be a seasoned BHT surgeon. There seems to be only one, quite low-res before/after picture of an eyebrow transplant on his webpage, however, why I'm a bit hesitant.

Does anyone have any experience with Dr. Devroye's eyebrow work? He has posted some admittedly impressive before/after shots on his webpage, although none is reconstructive. Location wise, he would probably be my best option.