Fante

The full 1.25 mg gave me instant side effects. I'm considering getting a new prescription but this time halving or quartering the dose. I.E. .50 or .25mg a day.

Does anyone else do this? Thoughts?

Thanks

I've been taking it for about a year now. Hard to tell if there's a difference. I'm still shedding, that's for sure.

No problems with libido.

My hair loss is very similar to yours. Although my temples are a bit more recessed and my forelock may be a little thinner, it's hard to tell.

I'll be closely watching your case to see how everything turns out. Good luck man!

Oh, let me know if the fin works on your hairline too. I'm considering getting a prescription and taking .50 mg or even .25 mg a day.

I recognize there has been baldness as long as there has been civilization. What I do NOT recognize is that men as young as 14 have been going bald for 10,000 years.

Like it or not, genetics are influenced by diet and environment. Any geneticist will tell you this. We are what we put into our bodies.

Going to go vomit now...

Seriously, anyone considering an HT should look at a photo of this so they know exactly what's being done to them. I realize the results can be amazing and the scar is often undetectable. But still, wow... I feel sick.

Adam, if you had read my post you would have noticed I said pretty much the same thing. Those lucky guys that eat like crap and have full heads of hair are not genetically predisposed to baldness.

For those of us that are, diet and lifestyle play a hugely important role. Start eating nothing but junk food and drinking nothing but soda and alcohol and see how great your hair does.

It's not just movies. Whenever I see old photos or old documentary footage, I'm stunned by how little baldness I see in young men.

Plus the cultural belief that baldness only strikes middle aged men. This belief must have been grounded in truth at one point, right? Not any more it seems.

Taken:

I don't have any hard evidence for why early onset AGA is unnatural. It's more my intuition. Just because it happens a lot doesn't mean it's natural, though. Would it be natural if your face aged 20 years in the span of 5 years? That's essentially what's happening to my hair. Or would it be natural if your teeth started falling out in your twenties?

Sorry, my original post was unclear. I meant to say that all three of those docs use different methods. Harris has the SAFE scribe, Feller has some kind of motorized thing, and I don't know about the Shapiros.

My question is: does Dr. Rahal use his own special system or one that is used by other docs?

Yes, I know it's genetics. You can see fat unhealthy slobs in the USA with full heads of hair and plenty of bald dudes in great shape at the gym.

But I think diet and lifestyle play a very important part also.

Alopecia of various types can be attributed to poor health, malnutrition, stress, etc., but not AGA. That's why it is important to diagnose the cause of your hair loss. If it's not AGA, then you are right, the other factors become important.

 

Also, as I said, there may indeed be some connection with those other factors, but I don't believe it's worth exploring. Viewing AGA as a disease would lead you to rationalize, erroneously, that something other than DHT and genetics really figures significantly in the solutions we pine for so desperately.

 

IMO, the most productive discussion would be about the multifarious hormonal signals and cross-communications that regulate the hair cycle. Attacking DHT reflects an oversimplified understanding of these dynamics.

But what is causing the hair loss to start so early and progress so fast? I don't think our genetics are wired to turn on the hair loss on a certain month or on a certain day at a certain age. I can remember the exact day my hair started falling out. One day it was fine, the next it was coming out in handfulls when I would comb or wash. It was like I had been poisoned or something.

A slow gradual thinning over decades is natural. Going from a full head of hair to no temples and a bald spot on top in five years in not natural.

A few other things:

I always notice increased hairloss when I drink alcohol to excess. This is probably because of the stress on the liver as well as the large amount of sugar in alcohol. There is a theory that high sugar intake exacerbates mpb due to low SHBGs levels.

Also, I currently live in Korea, and there is ZERO premature hair loss. Ok, maybe I've seen one or two balding guys in their twenties, but that's it. I'm serious. Conversely whenever I meet with other westerners here my age (20s), practically half of them are bald or balding. 3 of the 4 westerners at my job are balding also.

Is this because a lifetime of bad western diet? Something must be be triggering it, it's can't be just bad luck.

Interestingly I see lots of bald Korean men in their 40s 50s (although not as many as in the USA), so the gene is still present, it just isn't expressing itself 20 years too soon. The Korean diet is really heavy on meat and veggies with of course white rice at every meal. Very little sugar or flour and almost no fried food.

Is it similar to the methods used by Dr. Feller, Dr. Harris, or Dr. Shapiro(s)?

Hi all,

I'm well aware of the root causes of mpb (genetics, testosterone, DHT), and the western medicine used to treat it (propecia, duasteride), but what is far more interesting to me are the triggers behind the onset of mpb.

Some people get it when they're 14, others when they're 60. What causes the switch to 'flip' so to speak? The new field of epigenetics makes the case that our lifestyle and diet can determine which of our genes are expressed. Perhaps mpb is 'activated' in this way? If so, can it also be similarly 'turned off'?

Have you ever stopped to think about all the junk your body is ingesting everyday? I mean everything from processed food, plastic packaging, polluted air, to even the water in our taps. All these poisons must be taking a toll on our bodies. I firmly believe that in many cases mpb presents itself earlier than what is natural because of these factors I have just mentioned.

If you're interested here's a couple of sites that go into what I'm talking about a bit. One is the Carnivore Health Weblog. It's about a young man (age 25) that stopped his mpb completely by changing to a diet of grass fed beef and water. The Carnivore Health Weblog - Animal-Based Nutrition For Hair & Health

Another site is 180 degree health. The site owner experienced severe hair loss on a vegetarian diet, then switched to a meat heavy diet that excluded sugar, white flour, and all processed food, and saw his hairloss stop completely. 180 Degree Health

What are your thoughts? I don't mean to denigrate propecia or minoxidil, I just want start a discussion about lifestyle and its profound effects on our bodies.

I would personally be very very disappointed in this result. I've seen other work from Dr. Harris that is excellent, what happened here?

Thank you in advance for reading this,

I have been slowly losing my hair since age 22/23. I'm 25 now, and the loss is just beginning to be noticeable.

-About 10-20 fully grown hairs fall out each day. There is NO actual thinning going on.

-Hair loss is in frontal scalp area.

-Hair loss increases if I drink to excess.

-My family has only very late hair loss on mother's side (56 year old Uncle with full head of hair, Grandfather went bald in his late 50's).

-A dermatologist did a scalp biopsy and the results indicated that I had 'Non Scarring Alopecia.' She had absolutely no suggestions on how to remedy this condition.

-I have had very bad dandruff for years now and no shampoo has helped. Even Nizoral 2% is ineffectual.

Here are my questions:

-Are there any treatments for NSA (non-scarring alopecia)?

-If I had Alopecia Areata would it fall under the dermatologist's diagnosis, or would the biopsy have specifically indicated that?

-Will HT hair also fall victim to NSA?

-Finally, has anyone tried Thymoskin? It seems to be specially helpful for alopecia areata (which I think i might have).

my current supplement regimen, which does nothing at all as near as I can tell:

Nizoral 2% (every other day

1000 micrograms biotin

Men's Health Multivitamin

B supplement

COQ-10

Thank you very much for taking your time to read this, any help whatsoever is greatly appreciated,

cheers,

Fante

p.s. I can post pics if anyone wants to see.

Thank you in advance for reading this,

I have been slowly losing my hair since age 22/23. I'm 25 now, and the loss is just beginning to be noticeable.

-About 10-20 fully grown hairs fall out each day. There is NO actual thinning going on.

-Hair loss is in frontal scalp area.

-Hair loss increases if I drink to excess.

-My family has only very late hair loss on mother's side (56 year old Uncle with full head of hair, Grandfather went bald in his late 50's).

-A dermatologist did a scalp biopsy and the results indicated that I had 'Non Scarring Alopecia.' She had absolutely no suggestions on how to remedy this condition.

-I have had very bad dandruff for years now and no shampoo has helped. Even Nizoral 2% is ineffectual.

Here are my questions:

-Are there any treatments for NSA (non-scarring alopecia)?

-If I had Alopecia Areata would it fall under the dermatologist's diagnosis, or would the biopsy have specifically indicated that?

-Will HT hair also fall victim to NSA?

-Finally, has anyone tried Thymoskin? It seems to be specially helpful for alopecia areata (which I think i might have).

my current supplement regimen, which does nothing at all as near as I can tell:

Nizoral 2% (every other day

1000 micrograms biotin

Men's Health Multivitamin

B supplement

COQ-10

Thank you very much for taking your time to read this, any help whatsoever is greatly appreciated,

cheers,

Fante

p.s. I can post pics if anyone wants to see.