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I'm now 2 months and 13 days post hair transplant and in the middle of ugly duckling phase. The shedding phase was oddly uneven, but it appears to have stopped now. Time to kickstart the growth process! 

Day 12, all scabs have bee removed. It seems to be healing nicely, and I'm aware that there might be a challenging phase ahead before things improve again. 😄

On 1/10/2024 at 3:12 PM, Vann said:

I don’t think I follow, is Dr. Kaan new? 

Honestly, I don’t know. I did not ask the doctors how long they have been working there 😂

8 hours ago, Vann said:

who did your extractions and implants?

Dr Cengiz for extraction and Dr Kaan for insertion. 

Hello everyone,

I'm now four days past my hair transplant and chose HLC for the procedure. I had an overall fantastic experience. While I'm not a big writer, I'm more than willing to answer any questions and regularly update with pictures. 🙂

Here are the most important details:

• The hair transplant was conducted over two days, with two sessions each day. One session included 2 hours of extraction, a break, and another 2 hours of insertion.
• My donor area was assessed to have a total of 8000 grafts, which is sufficient for a potential second HT (crown).
• Four doctors were involved in the process: Dr. Umut for hairline design, Dr. Cengiz for extraction, Dr. Kaan for insertion, and Dr. Umut performed the final check.
• During breaks in the clinic, you're accompanied by someone who looks out for your well-being.
• The aftercare is meticulously explained, providing a daily to-do list for the first 10 days.
• Transfer to and from the hotel worked flawlessly, and all communication is conducted through WhatsApp.

4 hours ago, BeHappy said:

When you go back to do the crown, you can also add some density to the front, so you would still only go through two procedures. Just because the front doesn't get as dense as you would like, it may still be enough improvement so that you won't need to go back right away and you can wait a couple of years when you decide to fill in the crown.

 

Good point, thank you!

4 hours ago, Bucky O Hair said:

What is your definition of "full density"?

Also, did your HT doctor examine your donor, measure your hair caliber, measure the recipient area, and give you an estimated number of grafts and density (in cm2)?

All conversations with a HT doctor are pointless without the numbers.  

If your definition of "full density" is to achieve your original native density (which is usually measured between 80-100 grafts per cm2) then no HT can achieve this definition of full density.
The safest density that a HT can provide is usually 50 grafts per cm2, which is (in my opinion) good enough for the appearance of "full density".

Not sure if you've ever met anyone with 50 cm2 density, but it could be what you are looking for.  50cm2 is pretty much at full density, but again, we all have differing opinions.  
I would try and possibly meet people who were NW3 patients like you, who received 40-50 grafts per cm2 in their frontal area to see if it's something that meets your expectation of full density.  
 

Thank you for your constructive feedback. As there hasn't been an in-person consultation, no measurements of my hair or recipient area have been made yet.

The figure of 50 grafts per cm² was indeed mentioned during the consultation, but without a visual reference, it's challenging to envision the end result. When I referred to 'full density,' I meant a result that wouldn't necessitate a follow-up repair procedure.

I appreciate all the information and advice shared here. It's clear I need to adjust my expectations and potentially seek an in-person consultation for a more accurate assessment. Thanks again for your help!

10 hours ago, A_4_Archan said:

First of all you should understand that hair transplant creates an illusion of density in most of the successful cases and the full(very high) density is tough to achieve....for achieving full density(very high) all the involved factors should be favoring you and in your case they aren't....

 

- First of all your front portion seems to be wider than usual (though pictures can be deceptive) so too many grafts are needed just to create an illusion of density itself 

 

- more than usual grafts will be needed even if you do conservative hairline because of the wider size and thin hairs and you already have a forelock so the hairline can't be taken too high and somehow need to keep in sync with the forelock....

 

- you have got very thin hairs which will again add to the illusion of not so dense result 

 

- you have got many native hairs which can get damaged if your surgeon tries to implant new grafts very close to them

 

- sometimes too much dense packing leads to poor survival of grafts due to lack to blood supply to them

 

-the most important thing is that your surgeon has to preserve more grafts for your crown as it requires more grafts comparatively due to various factors plus have to save some grafts even for 3rd surgery as you may loose your forelock in future and have to recreate the hairline in future...

 

Due to all such factors its tough in your case to give you so much density and even its a wise thing not to attempt it..good that your surgeon already asked you to keep your goals in check...i know it feels bad when our expectations is not met but imo a long term plan will be more wiser than a short term WOW result...i hope this helps you ..best of luck...

 

 

Thanks! I will indeed document my results and progress. Hopefully, this will provide insights to the next person with similar characteristics as me -wider front portion as usual -  , making their journey a bit easier. This forum is a fantastic resource! Thanks again to all of you for your support and guidance. 

Thank you both for your insights. While your explanations make sense, it's still somewhat disheartening to learn that after investing €10,000, a completely satisfactory result in the front might not be achievable in one go. 

It's a substantial investment, and naturally, I was hoping for a significant improvement. 

I will continue with my research on similar cases. 

1 hour ago, Eli_Avdikian said:

anywayDid the doctor ask you if you are on any medication ? Anyway, I think he's right about your fine hair calibre contributing to the impossibility of acheiving full density, keeping in mind that your receded temple area is quite big.

Yes, I'm starting with Finasteride as recommended by the doctor, which will be about six months prior to the hair transplant. 

I understand your point and it makes sense, but I was under the impression that achieving full density was simply a matter of the number of grafts used. I thought that with a sufficient amount, we could reach the desired density. At least that’s what I see here from other reviews of top clinics. 

Hello everyone

I recently had an online consultation with a doctor to discuss my expectations for a hair transplant. This clinic is one that has been recommended by several members here, and is generally considered to be in the mid-to-high price range. The goal of my procedure is to restore my hairline and fill in the temples. Reference picture below. 

I'm aiming for full density in the front, so as to avoid a follow-up procedure, as any potential second hair transplant would focus solely on the crown. However, to my surprise, the doctor explained that achieving full density isn't possible, due to the need for a certain degree of spacing between grafts. Furthermore, it was  explained that my thin hair would contribute to the perceived lack of density, which left me quite taken aback.

Are my expectations unrealistic?

Any input or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Excellent result - what does he charge per graft right now? 

8 hours ago, ITA said:

Since you are oriented towards Turkey, you could also contact Dr Pekiner, why don’t you add Dr Pekiner to your list? 

His first available date is in June 24. Due to work related reasons not possible for me. 

8 hours ago, FutureHT1208 said:

Defeinitely consider Pekiner, through my research not much different in price with Bicer and better. Yaman wouldnt even consider his work dropped off. Problem with Keser is he does like 700 grafts a day so would take days to complete.

Can you elaborate on Yaman? 
 

It seems I confused Keser with Bicer in stretching the sessions over days. 

8 hours ago, Berba11 said:

I'd have Dr Demirsoy on the list to speak with.

I'm not sure why you'd marked Gur down for conservatism in the the hairline - that's a good thing!

That is a name I did not consider yet, thanks. 

Hello everyone,

I've been a long-time lurker on this forum and I'm finally going ahead with a hair transplant at the beginning of next year. However, I require your input on the choice of doctor, with my top priority being the hairline.

Here are my current possible options based on available dates in January next year:

• Dr. Bicer // Phenomenal feedback on online boards but sessions stretched over several days
• Dr. Gür // Good and very recent feedback but hairlines are often very conservative
• Dr. Yaman // Good hairlines and impressive mega sessions
• Dr. Keser // Waiting for a reply regarding available dates in January

I plan to document my entire journey and experiences on this forum, as it's thanks to this board that I'm finally moving ahead with this.

Best regards