Ryan32

I would suggest that you speak to your doctor first. Proscar is well tolerated and most guys have no side effects. Only 2 % of those have sexual side effects. You are doing teh right thing by waiting to see what the hairloss will be in a few years, Then you can have a good plan of attack. I had mine in 2002 and it changed my life. Wait a while to see, and go on proscar to halt any further hairloss. Keep in mind that Proscar will NOT stop frontal loss and will take 12 months or more to see results. You may shed in that 12 months but that is normal.

Originally posted by Unidel:

I'm going to speak to my doctor and seriously consider taking Propecia. If I notice a problem and can nip it in the bud, maybe that's something I can do. But to try it and have it not work and create problems is troublesome.

 

Can I assume there are a lot of people here taking it, showing positive results with no side effects?

Yes you can assume that. The major majority of men who take Proscar do not have sexual side effects. It is reported less then 2 percent. It is a very tolerated medication.

I just saw the link that you posted. It is not creditable in terms of research or in anyway based on real scientifically reported side effects. That is someone's opinion, not based on clinical facts. Junk science, and a bloggers.

Originally posted by Unidel:

No. I've read that Rogaine doesn't do much and nothing but horror stories about Propecia on www.propeciahelp.com so I'm hesitant to try that.

I am not sure what horror you are talking about. The medication that you are refering to has been on the market for years. It has a very entrenched saftey record. Also in terms of sexual side effects they are reported in less then 2%. I think you are very mislead in what you are reporting. Also it is approved by Health Canada and the FDA, for hair growth. Almost everything eles including the shampoos, and laser combs are a complete waste of time and money, not only are they not approved meaning they have no results, based on creditable research.

Originally posted by youngsuccess:

Hey hairlossnebwie,

 

I will try to scratch the surface of your first question:

 

1. Is it possible to take hair from the donor area without a long scar from one side of the back of the head to the other? (the thought of staples in my head, and a noticable scar across the back of my head scares me) Bill, I don't know how you've managed to go through all of that.

 

Yes: Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE), the removal of grafts one by one, can accomplish this; however, some people argue that this method method may not always be the better option. Thinning out the donor area is sometimes a concern of patients, and there also is a small degree of scarring associated with FUE (little dots), although in many cases people opt for this over one consistent scar (the smiley face). The healing time is also less after FUE. I think FUE is normally recommended to patients who want smaller sessions.

 

Some people will argue that the "trichophic closure" technique can produce a more cosmetically appealing scar after relatively smaller sessions. Look at the last 3 links under the "My Journal" section of this page created by Dr. True which gives some examples:

 

http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=114

 

The healing of the donor area presented here after strip surgery is quite remarkable. I would have to guess that the strip was relatively small though to be this undetectable buzzed down this far.

 

The bottom line IMO is that if you think that you may want or NEED to shave your head one day, FUE currently is the way to go. But, most people can camaflouge strip scarring entirely if the hair is worn above a #2/#3 clipper. FUE is also more expensive, but that shouldn't be the main reason not to choose it. If you ever consider FUE you may want to talk to Dr. Feller.

I can also say that i have had two HT's And while yes the scar issue can become an issue, i do not regret it today. I wear my hair very very short. I do understand though that most people would not want the scar to show at all. That i uderstand. However at the same time though almost everyone will not associate the scar with an HT. In regrds to FUE, if i could turn back anything i would have gone with FUE. But it would not have been possible anyways do the cost.

I would suggest proscar as well. I had a HT a few years ago and while they can provide a life changing expercience. I would suggest through that you try proscar. Once your hairloss has stablized then you can understand what your next move can be.

Originally posted by Mike Beehner, M.D.:

Dear "Hairlossnewbie,"

It IS possible to implant artificial hairs surgically into the scalp and have them remain there, but it is not legal to do so in the United States. This is done in Italy, Japan, and Australia that I know of and I'm sure in a few other countries. Incidentally, these are not hairs cut off of someone's head, but rather are chemically manufactured out of a material that is designed to provoke the least possible tissue reaction and still look like and feel like human hair. The problem is that each year you have to have another thousand or two replaced that work their way out, and, most important of all, there is what we call in surgery a "fibrosis" reaction to the artificial hairs being implanted, that is, an inflammatory hardening and often redness coloration in the area the artificial hairs are implanted into the scalp.

A doctor in Australia that I greatly respect who has done quite a few of these, states that this method should only be used for those men who desperately want something looking like hair on their head and don't want a hairpiece and who are absolutely out of donor hair or don't have it in the first place.

In general, if you are a young male, which you sound like you are, and your desire is to have a head of hair that is exactly of the density and square area as when you were 15, this is almost certainly not going to be possible if you already have the typical early signs of male pattern baldness. Until you are willing to be satisfied with something less than that full head of hair, you should hold off making any permanent decisions, take medication to hold off hair loss, and continue to learn all you can. I should add that your impression of hair transplantation is a little pessimistic compared with the results, both in the donor and the recipient area, that most good hair surgeons are able to accomplish. Your comment that you don't want "thin hair on the back of my head" indicates to me that you should hold off on a transplant at this time if your age is young. Best wishes.

Mike Beehner, M.D.

i have heard of this. From what I remember the results look beyond terrible. The damage that this casues is unreal. It is unethical!!!!

Originally posted by Dr. Alan Feller:

Bill,

I believe Jotronic did a great job exposing the disingenuousness of the female photo you linked to. I'll take on the rest.

 

I checked out the FDA 510k and believe that the omission of proof of efficacy is clear. Furthermore, I saw that they cited 4 studies that were performed BY THEMSELVES. I wonder how much stock the clinicians were given to perform the "studies".

Also, you may notice that the STANDARD by which these clinicians gauged the success of the product is not articulated. My bottom line is that if you need a microscope to claim success, then you don't really have a success at all.

 

So far, without hype,disingneuousness, and heavy marketing laser hair products wouldn't be given a second glance.

 

On Dr. Bauman's link to flikr all you see is a hodge-podge of patients who have combinations of hair transplants, propecia, and maybe some "laser treatment". Where are the PURE laser treated patients? Why is the hair in the before photos wet down and then dry in the after photos?

 

But Dr. Bauman is not the only doctor engaging in this purposful confussion. Hair Max laser comb is even more bold in their photo presentations.

 

I pulled just the first two patient exapmples right off of hairmax's own website. There is no information giving any detail as to what medications these patients may be on nor does it say how long they used the laser comb IF AT ALL!!!

This says it right here "My bottom line is that if you need a microscope to claim success, then you don't really have a success at all."

This is what the truth holds. cCounting hairs is not success. You will not see the real differnce in the mirror. A total waste of money.

You will be fine. After my procedure i noticed that the staples scabbed over very quickly. The only real issue i had was with itching. That is casued by the healing proccess itself. Donot worry.

Originally posted by htownballa:

Hey veterans,

 

I know it is wise to have a long term plan when transplanting. I was wondering how common it is or whether it is a good idea to decide and transplant donor hair to give a good, low hairline with high density + temples and skimp out on crown coverage.

 

I was thinking in terms of looks it is more important to have the front framed as good as possible since nobody really looks at the back of your head anyways. Maybe it is possible to save 2000 grafts for the crown just in case and add a concealer when/if the crown eventually goes. What do you guys think?

a long term plan is vital! How bad will it look if you have a high density frontal core and then bald in the crown? Density is very important but i would think that result might not be a good idea. Total coverage is better, but you also do not want thin hair throughout either. I find thin result look worse.

Originally posted by wanthairs:

hey man...

 

Im 4 months post op with my hair cropped down to a 0.5 noone on earth would be able to tell i had a hari transplant by looking at the hair. Now when they see the scar, thats another thing but I dont care abotu that being shown. The results so far, which are probably at about 30% look ONE THOUSAND percent natural.

Nice job! I would not worry to much about the scar. You can always make up a good story for that. The real deal is with the result. That is what makes a good HT and makes you happy about the product per say.

Originally posted by Michaellovesnyc:

No one; ABSOLUELY NO ONE, ever spotted my HT or even my "scar line". Not one barber ever suspected it and I went to several barbers. Even when I attempted to show them the scar line, no one could see it. No one ever suspected that I had it done. They thought that it had grown by some magic. I purposely made escuses not to see some people, including my family, for six months. Everyone commented on how much weight I lost and how good I looked but no one ever realized I had a HT. When I told people they could not believe it and everyone touched my hair to see if they could feel a difference. You have to go to a good doctor to get these type of results. I have a blog where you can see the results including close up pictures.

 

Needless to say, anyone that didn't know me never knew until I told them and you simply can not tell the difference. There is no difference since it is your own hair anyway.

 

My operations:

 

Dr. Feller

2500 Grafts January 2006

2100 Grafts August 2007(Not shown yet in blog)

Scars though are a bit different. Most people have no idea what they are from. The true test is like what you said, that barbers who deal with hair all day cannot notice or tell the difference! Sounds like your HT was a great success!

Originally posted by nobuzz4me:

Dr. Feller,

 

Thank you for taking on this issue head on and standing up for the patients. Too many will be ripped off by this scam.

 

Since Dr Bauman even stooped to using a setup caller, it tells you a lot about those that push this "product".

 

Is there anyway to download the program from the archives??

 

 

I posted this in another thread and got a good laugh out of it. Found it on ebay, laser pushers!

 

 

ATTENTION EBAY BUYERS SOME SELLERS HAVE INSTALLED LASERS IN CHEAP AUTO FLASHLIGHTS AND RECHARGEABLE HOUSE FLASHLIGHTS AND SELLING AS HAIR GROWTH DEVICES.THESE SHODDY MADE UNITS ARE REASON SELLERS CHANGE IDENTITY OFTEN. PLEASE BE CERTAIN AND ASK QUESTIONS AS THESE SELLERS ARE A DISERVICE TO THE PHOTO-BIOSTIMULATION INDUSTRY.

 

 

Looks like the scammers are being scammed!! LOL!

This is just another rip off scam! There is no scientific reports that claim that these products work or provide any sort of hair growth. This is nothing more then pure garbage. Unless you can back up the claims, they are simply a fraud.

Here is one more question. In terms of density, is the higher the denisty mean a higher risk of shock loss?

thanks for the information!

"Temporary shockloss is more common and seemingly unpredictable"

I guess that is the price we pay to have bad results corrected.

I would rather shave that off then live with that cover up. There are so many excellent doctors that can fix that.

Originally posted by Bill:

userdefined,

 

Where are you buying your generic proscar? I only ask because personally I am learly of buying any medications online.

 

Jen is right...finasteride is not a cure for hair loss...

 

What is the differnce though between them?

 

 

 

And when we are talking about the root cause of hair loss....Jen is also correct....it doesn't do anything to stop the cause of hair loss, genetically speaking...

 

But it does attempt to minimize DHT - a hormone that impacts hairs genetically predisposed to hair loss.

 

I digress...

 

If you are indeed taking legitimate finasteride, I'd suggest consulting with a doctor to see about upping your dosage or possibly considering dudasteride.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Bill

OMG! that website is very disturbing. How is the year 2007 are these clinics operating! The disfigurment and the horror is all that can be said. Very upsetting.

Bill:

Thanks for the information! My biggest question is what causes shock loss in terms of a new HT.

Hello everyone...

I have a general question that I need help with. What is and are the best options for a previous hair transplant? Is going with FUE the best option? Or is strip the better option? Also in terms of shock loss when performing another HT close by the previous one will this result in futher loss??

Hello everyone...

I have a general question that I need help with. What is and are the best options for a previous hair transplant? Is going with FUE the best option? Or is strip the better option? Also in terms of shock loss when performing another HT close by the previous one will this result in futher loss??