Namur1980

9 hours ago, BaldGuy said:

I agree. Money doesnt take away the huge ugly scar and all the depression that Dr Bisanga caused you with this poor result. High paid doctors usually hide their bad results and show only their good ones. So thats useful for the community that you shared with us your bad experience with dr Bisanga.

You are right. Being a so called "top" doctor is not all about producing good results, it's about being good at hiding the bad results. HT doctors should be transparent about the results and should have the obligation to post all their results on their website, even the very bad ones.

2 hours ago, Curious25 said:

It would be easier to comment with immediate pre and post op photos, but to summarise; 

 

- given the placement of your FUT scar, it is right in the sweet spot in terms of a ‘safe zone’, so regardless of whether you have taken medication or not, you’d still expect to see more hair on the top of your head 13 years on than what you appear to have now 

-scar is bad 

-your native hair loss has seemingly progressed , which dramatises your current situation now compared to your pre op photos in 2010

 

-Hair restoration surgery in 2010 (regardless of clinic) was unfortunately not what it is today, that goes for both FUT and FUE 

 

-the comments regarding other Bisanga patients you know with unsatisfactory results, and other surgeons claiming to have lots of former repair patients of his should be dismissed as hearsay until they come online and speak for themselves providing evidence 

 

-you should be able to ask for an official statement from the clinic on this thread, as there are two or three very active BHR reps who regularly post on this forum, 

 

I hope you find peace eventually, in whatever form that may be. At least you got a refund, which I know doesn’t make up for how you have felt or must currently feel now, but it is still a small victory in this industry as very rarely do clinics actually follow through with a refund. 

Good luck! 

 

Thanks for your message and support.

The FUT scar being right in the sweet spot (safe zone)....i guess i should be thankful that he did something good.

I guess you do realize that most people that had an unsuccessful HT and go through depression never post on forums. Other people just don't post on forums. Other people contact the clinic and settle an agreement. In conclusion, most bad cases don't end up in forums. If i managed to find posts of 2 other people who experienced the same results as myself, then it means that there are many people out there who experienced bad results from Bisanga. My definition of a doctor is someone who helps people, not someone who makes their situation much worse.

As for an official statement from the BHR reps. I talked several times to Bisanga's staff. At first they said i was a "late bloomer", then they said big surgeries are not suitable for me and that i should go for surgeries of max 1500 grafts, then they performed a biopsy of my scalp but nothing came out of it. Lately i asked them what really went wrong but i never got an official reply.

1 hour ago, Belve said:

I see. It’s going to end when you and the other patients who were unsatisfied with their bad results and bad fut scars share their experiences on forums like this. So people will learn about these cases. 

Well, most  people who go through depression and anxiety never share their experiences here. HT doctors are perfectly aware of that.

As for Bisanga, he perfectly knows that his FUT surgeries never end up with "almost invisible scars even with short hair" (as stated on his website). He knew in 2012 that i had been suffering from severe depression and anxiety, and that i quit my studies and my job. Despite that, he keeps offering FUT surgeries with false hopes. As a result, more people are suffering from his long and wide scars and go into endless depressions. As a doctor, as a human being, how can you keep making money knowing how devastating the consequences can be? We are not talking about isolated cases here as i have witnessed several cases myself online. And even if it were some isolated cases, destroying a person's life should never be put at stake. But it's obvious that many doctors in this industry don't have moral values.

1 hour ago, Rafael Manelli said:

How can he say the growth is not bad? 

I guess some psychological pressure. I guess he doesn't want to admit that the results are terrible

49 minutes ago, Rafael Manelli said:

What exactly has changed in FUT in the past 13 years? The fact it was done that long ago is not an excuse.

This patient's life has been devastated by a failed surgery that left him looking worse than he did before. Thankfully Bisanga gave him a refund, but there is no repairing the damage, and no attempt by BHR to repair it.

One of the worst Bisanga results I've seen. But you must focus on the future. It doesn't help to dwell on the past and languish endlessly. We will try to help if we can. 

Thanks for your support.

In 2012 he said he would help me until the end. He tried 100 grafts in the scar and some SMP (which made the scar look worse) some years ago. I met him again in January but told me this time that i had to pay for any repair work. He said that the scar was part of the surgery (even if it clearly states on their website that it will be thin and nearly undetectable, and he never told me that it would be on the sides of my head) and that the growth on top is not bad. After seeing other bad scars from him, i have lost all my confidence in him.

1 hour ago, Rafael Manelli said:

This is a heartbreaking result. I'm sorry. Do you have a plan? Do you know how many grafts you have left? 

A plan? My life has been a mess since 2010. I might consider FUE into the scar but the results are not guaranteed. And most doctors ask a lot of money for repair cases.

1 hour ago, Berik said:

One of the worst scars i've ever seen to be honest. However, to be fair the surgery was 13 years ago. A lot has changed in the industry since then. I'm not a fan of Bisanga. He implants in rows and often lacks irregularity, which is insane to me for an "elite" doctor. 

A lot has changed? Bisanga keeps offering FUT and some people even end up with worse scars. Here is a patient who had a FUT with Bisanga in 2018. I came across other people who also experienced terrible scars from him. The other doctors i have talked to in Belgium told me they have a lot of repair patients from Bisanga. All this is unacceptable. 

There are barely 20 hairs on each temple. Growing at weird driections. For the frontal parts, the average is 10 hairs per square cenimeter, at some place there is only 2 hairs per square centimerer. Much lower than 40 grafts per square centimeter i was promised. As for the vertex, there are barely 50-100 hairs

11 hours ago, Rafael Manelli said:

Why did you opt for fut

Because FUE was too new and most doctors had more experience with FUT for large sessions. I was promised hair on the top of my head and a thin scar at the back of my head (not until my temples as he did). None of these promises were kept.

9 hours ago, BaldV said:

This is very poor results, I am sorry man, do you have any pics from the clinic before the operation?

9 hours ago, BaldV said:

This is very poor results, I am sorry man, do you have any pics from the clinic before the operation?

That's the best i could find

9 hours ago, BaldV said:

This is very poor results, I am sorry man, do you have any pics from the clinic before the operation?

This is the only one i got find. I deleted most of the others

9 hours ago, BaldV said:

This is very poor results, I am sorry man, do you have any pics from the clinic before the operation?

That's the best i could find

11 hours ago, Belve said:

I saw a few hairs on top and I thought these pictures were the before but you are saying that all the photos were the result ?. The yield of grafts was very low then..I feel sorry for that…

I would never do FUT if I were you cause of these wide scars into the donor. You shouldn’t have done this..

I know. But his promise was very clear. A guaranteed surgery with 98% survival rate. And a thi scar almost invisible with short hair. I know that i go scammed but many other patients have similar cases with Bisanga. When is this going to end?

10 hours ago, Archan said:

Can you pls share your pre op pics and immediate post op pics and month wise pics if you have..scar is certainly broaden much more than usual ....but regarding your survival rate and its a poor outcome or not can only be judged from pre op pics and thn 12-14 months post op pics....

And even bisanga is not a god...this is a surgery and there is always a chance of failure ...evry doctor will have bad case ..and unfortunately you may be one of them by bisanga...its just that good doctors have less percentage of failure ratio and they can give better naturalness than other doctors....

These are 2 pre pics from the front. All the other picture are from today. I don't haby any pre or post-op pictures.

That's not was he expains. He said the sugrery was guaranteed and that the scar would linear, nearly underexracke with short hair. 

I have come across othe patients who end up with big scars from Bisanga. These procudres shouldn't be allowed 

11 hours ago, BaldGuy said:

Your result with Dr Bisanga is quite bad. The yiled seems to be low and the fut scar has streched a lot and looks ugly...Did Dr Bisanga offered a refund of your money or another free procedure? Or just he said that this result was decent for him?

I got a refund in 2012. But that doesn't take away the huge scar nor all the depression and anxiety i have been going through. Bisanga knows that many of his patients end up with big scars and poor growth. Why is he still offering FUT today?? Pretending to be someone with only good results and charging patients premium prices

11 hours ago, Rafael Manelli said:

When did Bisanga say this result was decent? Can you share his exact words with you? 

Some months ago when i visisted his office to find a solution for the scar.

For everyone's info, the surgery was refunded in 2012 due to the poor results. But that doesn't take away the huge scar nor all the moral damages. 

1 minute ago, Rafael Manelli said:

Is this a before picture? Before your surgery? 

Several years after the surgery. I had much more hair before the surgery

55 minutes ago, Belve said:

The front has a little improvement than before but still low density..but the crown is same as before…isn’t it ? I can’t see any difference with the 1200 grafts on crown 

the FUT scar doesn’t look good. It’s too wide and far too visible…you can’t keep your donor short hair with this wide fut scar

do you have photos with longer hair on top ? 

All the pictures are "after" pictures. There is barely any improvement. The whole surgery was a disaster. As for the scar: Bisanga is still offering FUT today knowing that his scars often end up wide and very long. Here is another person who had a FUT with Bisanga in 2018

24 minutes ago, HairFunk said:

You could do with another 3000 grafts, plus keep you hair longer. Also look into SMP. 

Another 3000 grafts? There is no guarantee that it will work this time. And it will definitely make my donor look worse. SMP fades and changes color over time. 

22 minutes ago, Rafael Manelli said:

What was Bisanga’s reasoning for his choice of extraction method and implantation zones? Usually he does FUE.

It was in 2010. I chose FUT because i was probably going to need FUE afterwards. But i was promised a very thin scar at the back of my head and 98% survival rate of the transplanted grafts. Finally i ended up with a 35cm long scar and less than 10% survival rate. I have come across other people with similar cases from Bisanga

22 minutes ago, AB2000 said:

From looking at the last photo, it seems you have decent overall coverage, especially considering the amount of area being covered by only 4,000 grafts.  Some people wind up using that much for just the frontal portion; in your case it was spread out into the crown.  Another factor which might be affecting your result is if your hair loss has been stabilized with drugs, or if you've continued the balding of native hairs.  You can add new ones in, but if you're like me and don't take Propecia, your net result is impacted.

You might benefit from SMP to go along with your short styling.  The coverage is there, so adding the micro dots will add density.  SMP can help with the FUT scar as well.

The mid-section is still my native hair. Some frontal hair too. Less than 500 grafts grew. You can see this more clearly on these 2 pictures.  Tried SMP but it doesn't stay in the scar and becomes blurry. 

I would like to have some people's opinion about the results. According to Dr. Bisanga, the results are decent enough. The surgery was several years ago. About 2800 grafts in the front, and 1200 in the crown.