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Hey everybody, just wondering if anyone here had any surgery with dr. baubac of armani. How was your experience with him? How much was the surgery?

1 hour ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Looks like Clomid was prescribed off-label. It’s usually given to infertile women. If you have Low T I think HCG is a better option, or if it’s chronic, nothing beats testosterone cypionate.

Hey I know youre busy with your day to day. When you have the time, would you comment on your suggestion of testosterone cypionate and HCG? Do they have the same side effects as clomid? Have you taken it or know someone who has?

1 minute ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

You can naturally raise your testosterone by simply changing your diet and habits. You can go from 200ng/dl to 500 ng/dl which would put you at a normal range.

Yeah I've tried doing that by eating lots of meats, eggs and milk along with working out but it helps marginally.

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Looks like Clomid was prescribed off-label. It’s usually given to infertile women. If you have Low T I think HCG is a better option, or if it’s chronic, nothing beats testosterone cypionate.  it’s good to get on a DHT blocker to help your hair.

Yes it was prescribed off label. You mention testosterone cypionate. Will this increase T levels but not give the side effects I am complaining about?

Again, as I mentioned a few times before, I can't take fin. This is why I asked you about how safe is topical fin if that wont mess with my hormones since its topical.

Btw did you get my message? I reported to you someone who keeps harassing me nonstop here. Hope you got the message. Thanks man.

28 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

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Relax, there are solutions if you can stay levelheaded. We’re not the enemy here. If you’re going to raise your testosterone, you need to be on a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, to prevent DHT conversion. My suggestion is to get on a high quality topical solution like Dr. Hassons at Xyonhealth. This would counter the effects.

So I went to the site, 'https://www.xyonhealth.com/' that I think you suggested and filled out a form for VIP access. Then a popup said they'll get back to me. I dont understand. Is this med readily available? Can a doc prescribe it?

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Just now I got an email from the company. The email said the med contains 2.5% Finasteride Gel which I cant take at all since theres a risk it can disrupt my hormonal levels according to my doc. Do you have any other suggestions I can try? What do you think about taking female hormones to counteract the effects of the testosterone as a possible solution?

What do you think about topical fin? Will that have a risk of disrupting my hormones by any chance?

Just now, JoeMan said:

Sounds like a threat. Wouldn't be the first one by you in this thread so I guess you think you're tuff. I'm not sure what makes you think I'm trolling you but was honestly trying to calm you down but that seems to far out of reach at this point. 

 

Youre on permanent ignore. I wont respond to you any longer. Troll someplace else

9 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

Someone said this earlier and you were too enraged to get the joke so I was clarifying it for you because it went over your head.

A troll is only brave online. Thats all I gotto say.

19 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

@dtap

Relax, there are solutions if you can stay levelheaded. We’re not the enemy here. If you’re going to raise your testosterone, you need to be on a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, to prevent DHT conversion. My suggestion is to get on a high quality topical solution like Dr. Hassons at Xyonhealth. This would counter the effects.

I would also suggest getting a new endocrinologist. He’s prescribing Clomid which is an estrogen modulator. If you have low testosterone, the best solution would be to take testosterone weekly, or HCG. Of course, this is only after you’ve made lifestyle adjustments. There are a lot of factors that can contribute to low testosterone, including diet and sleeping patterns, and alcohol and drug consumption. I do believe this drug may be affecting behavior as well. 

But who says youre the enemy? Why arent you scolding the 2 users here who are trolling/joking? Youre a mod and hopefully a fair mod, since I really dont know. But you got to be fair with the user being trolled.

What do you mean by get a new endocrinologist? I've never seen one before in my life. The only person who prescribed clomid to me was my uro. I've never seen an endo before. But I'm seeing one tomorrow morning as I mentioned.

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My suggestion is to get on a high quality topical solution like Dr. Hassons at Xyonhealth. This would counter the effects.

So is this medication like a female hormone one can use to counter the effects of the testosterone I took? I hope its not like fin which I cant take since fin can wreck my hormones.

3 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

You definitely have every right to act any way you want but don't be upset with others when your actions trigger negative responses. We are trying to help you. While I agree this is sad, far worse things can happen in life. Especially since this is likely temporary. 

I'm NOT upset with anyone just with the doc. Why would I be upset with people I dont know? I jujts dont appreciate some here who troll and make light of a dark situation which I'm going through unfortunately.

It hurts when clumps of goddamn hair end up in your drain one day then see it again the next. Its a spirit killer and you really dont know how this feels since most likely (though I dont know you) you havent experienced the same thing. This isnt a game people can joke about then play it off by blaiming the person affected by it to "chill." I have EVERY right NOT to chill. I clearly agree with what youre saying. But this is something that will stick with me for a long time unless this is temporary. I'll have to see what the dermatologist says tomorrow when I visit him. All I know is this isnt fair and its not right

7 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

Bro, you gotta chill out! I wasn't even the one who said you're acting 21 but I think it's clear in this thread who's acting like a child. Read through your own thread with a clear mind and I think you'll see your reaction is childish. 

Might be worth putting things into perspective. Try to remember that someone always has it worse than you. Not to bring up Ukraine but just look around at what other people are going through. Whenever I have a hard time, this is what I try to do. Either way, I wish you luck.

Dude you gotta stop trolling. You said: " I think the point was that you are acting 21 about this." YOU said this. Your trolling me is making you look immature. Grow up.

When you compare ukraine to my situation youre actually comparing mountains to molehills. You cant do that. Anyway, hope you understand other people's situations and step in their shoes... just chill from judging/trolling them.

8 minutes ago, digi23 said:

You should chill aswell, you are on a forum with people trying to help, but keep insulting people over and over when we try to help you out.

Dude what are you talking about?? No one is insulting anyone. If you dont see theyre insulting me and making jokes about my situation then you shouldnt comment. Either that or youre defending your troll buddies

3 minutes ago, JoeMan said:

I know it's hard but stress can make things worse. You seem extremely upset by this. I know it's easier for me say but try to think rational about it. Likely it's a temporary shed.

I agree, youre right. Hope this is temporary.

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I think the point was that you are acting 21 about this.  Cursing and wishing people would die doesn't sound like a 51 year old.

Can I act like 21 then? Do I have a right to be upset and act any way I want? You dont understand cuz you not affected by this. Youre acting like a 13 year old who doesnt understand what others are going through.

6 minutes ago, digi23 said:

Honestly, Clomid is a shit drug to up testosterone to begin with. I would say visit another Dr and tell him/her your side effects and try something else.

I completely agree 500%. Appreciate that suggestion. Matter of fact I scheduled to see an endocrinologist for tomorrow morning. Hopefully he can prescribe a med that can counter the extra testosterone with maybe female hormones, I dont know, just something cuz this is not fair.

I really hate docs and god himself.

3 hours ago, SadMan2021 said:

Did you make the Clomid-prescribing doctor aware that hair restoration is a goal of yours? I wouldn't blame the doctor at this point, if he is not aware of this. 

Yes I made my uro aware of this. Then when I called him today I only got his nurse at which point I demanded to talk to the doc who was busy with another client. She asked me to hold and I was left waiting for 10 minutes until she replied again and said she talked to the doc and he recommends I talk to a dermatologist. I really hate docs.Doctors and medical stuff are overrated

17 minutes ago, ciaus said:

 

Based on your replies your testosterone level seem to also go up when you engage on the forum. Sound like you're about 21 now.  Its cool, you can vent a little given the circumstances.

That poster above me, Melvin the forum moderator, didn't actually say that he thought the loss was permanent. He just asked if you were on a DHT blocker, which would help to minimize any loss that was being caused by DHT. 

The TE in "TE hair loss" is just an abbreviation for Telogen Effluvium. Which is what it sounds like in your situation, just being a matter of weeks starting and stopping the medication. The temporary shedding could go on for a few months and should start growing back within 6 months.

Did a search on that medication, looks like you are one of the 1% with the hair loss. Just give it some time.

 

I'm confused by your reply. How can someone's T level go up when they go on the net? And no I'm not 21 I'm 52 which I stated before.

I wasnt referring to melvin I was referring to someone else.

Hope its temporary even though my uro said it was permanent which makes no sense cuz I've been on the med for 19 days only.

I'm not sure if youre trolling or not. This is a serious matter in my life and I dont need jokes/trolling. I would appreciate it if you'd refrain from such behavior.

22 minutes ago, ciaus said:

Sounds like telogen effluvium triggered by your testosterone therapy increase. You can read more about it at the link below. Long term, you may want to discuss with your doctor how much higher to increase your testosterone to maximize your overall health while also trying to minimize the potential for hair loss. If your hair follicles are genetically programmed to be sensitive to DHT, having higher testosterone means more of it is going to get converted to DHT, which is the primary cause of male pattern baldness. And that kind of hair loss is permanent.  

 

Experiencing a sudden change in hormone levels can trigger TE hair loss. Similar to an environmental change, hormone fluctuation can cause hair follicles to go into a prolonged resting state. If TE occurs during pregnancy, hair growth is usually restored within six months to a year after childbirth.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321590#outlook

 

Hi.. from the lower quote you posted, it may be possible that this hair loss is temporary. Fyi, I was on this clomid piece of shit for only 19 days. And stopped taking it 3 weeks ago. Btw, whats "TE hair loss?" Let me know what you think given these facts. Thanks

16 minutes ago, Ryan Daniel said:

How old are you?  Share some photos. 

 

51... will not share pics

3 hours ago, ciaus said:

To be serious, this does suck especially if his doctor didn't give him a headsup that hormone tinkering like this can trigger temporary sheds. Which is all it sounds like given how quickly its come on. The best way forward, if you have unhealthy testosterone levels, is to stick with the therapy and ride out the hair shedding, wear a hat when you can.

But how do you know this is a temporary shed? The poster above you said its permanent which the idea itself devastates me right now and in the future. I've only been on clomid for 19 days. I stopped taking it 3 weeks ago and its still causing big hair loss. I dont get it.

Dude... did you not read my post?? I will NOT take the med ANYMORE. Yeah, wear a hat to work.. like that wont get me fired. Be real

Hi.. no I'm not using any DHT blockers. If youre talking about finasteride my doc strongly suggested I never take it.

This goddamn is really killing my spirit. I had a meeting to go to and I missed it cuz of this shit. Right now I'm not looking forward to anything in life. This is the worst medication I ever had and I wish the company who made it and the doc who prescribed it would completely. 

Hi guys... about a month and a half ago I was prescribed a med called clomid to up my testosterone level which was low at the time. I've been experiencing hair loss from it since then. But I stopped taking it 3 weeks ago but I still lose lots of hair which makes 0 sense. Why is this happening if I stopped taking the med 3 weeks ago?!?? What can I do to reverse this side effect?? Do I take female hormones??

I'm very very confused and desperate!!!

I'm a bit confused about something. Why did couto elect to transplant hair to your frontal to top area if from what I gather from your pre-op pics you dont show any signs of hair loss? That area looks dense, I could be wrong though. Were you diffuse in that area?

19 hours ago, digi23 said:

I would say that your chances of becoming a tech or applying for a job as a tech would be to be a licensed nurse, which is a couple of years of education.

19 hours ago, Gatsby said:

The best way is to directly contact hair transplant surgeons and put this question to them. All the best!

Wow.. Getting mixed signals here. Dont know which is the best answer.,

1 minute ago, SeanToman said:

By beauty saloon I mean learning to work with needles.etc (ie. lip fillers, face fillers, derma pens, all those basic facial modification techniques).
Cosmetic work that gives you the training to be considered a nurse.

Ohhhh.. I se what youre saying now. Can it be still possible to train to be a tech without working in the cosmetic plastic surgery industry?

1 hour ago, SeanToman said:

You probably have to be a trainee at a beauty saloon for a little bit first for portfolio, then apply for training with a clinic that is taking in trainees.

Appreciate the answer but that doesnt make sense. Training to be a hair stylist and being a tech are completely mutually exclusive. Apples and oranges.

Does anyone here know how I can train to be a technician in the ht industry?