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I know this is not a good question but I had to ask. Anyone know what percentage of shock loss occurs even at the prominent clinics ballpark figure wise?

Yo9ure looking good under the hood. Keep up with the updaters

2 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Dr. Cuoto isn’t even recommended here, we have zero ties to him. But it’s clear as day you’re trying to start a smear campaign, which is my duty to call out. You’re not trying to have a dialogue, it’s clear from your previous responses. 

Then why do you defend couto if you have 0 ties with him. Its clear youre not doing your job as an unbiased mod - your replies prove it. No serious mod insults and troll users like you do.

I backed up everything I said with actual proof. You havent.

1 hour ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

This guy is not a legitimate poster, don’t waste your time. Let this thread die, as he only here to spread an agenda.

Ok. Let it die. As we see hes here suspiciously selectively defending some doctors'

1 hour ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Your post is more suspicious than anything. Seems like you’re just posting this to try and convince people that Cuoto is somehow not legit, while saying Turkish clinics are somehow more legit because of their website- which is laughable. You definitely have some sort of agenda by posting this, it’s clear as day. Anyone reading this should know you’re obviously not a legitimate member genuinely asking questions, but instead someone who’s posting with an agenda to plant seeds of doubt. 

You defending some clinics selectively is suspect, no question.

Youre wrong 100%. I'm not pitting couto against turkish clinics. The point I'm making which youre missing is that couto has no website but scamming turkish clinics do. All I'm doing is making sense of it all.

The proof is my other thread where I agreed that turkish clinics produce inconsistent results. Look it up. I created it 1 day ago. You accusing me of convincing others of downplaying couto is hilarious. Then you accuse me of a "hidden agenda" when I proved its not with that thread I created. The 2nd proof is that couto does not have a website which you can look up.

As a mod you should be fair to all users. What you shouldve done is asked me to clarify my point. Then provide your feedback so we can dialogue.

It seems that youre selectively defending some clinics - highly suspect indeed.

22 minutes ago, deeznuts said:

Microsoft is a trillion dollar corporation who can afford to have a dedicated team of developers maintain a website.

Couto is a small business owner running a practice of possibly even less than 10 employees. It makes literally 0 sense for him to have a web developer on the payroll just to create one website. So in Couto's case it makes an extreme amount of sense to pay someone to create a website and be done with it as a one time cost instead of a recurring cost like a web developer might be. I don't know what world you live in, but small businesses don't always have websites, and they 100% definitely don't keep a web developer on the payroll just to maintain a single website. 

It's ridiculous to even compare the two. 

 

Exactly you just made my point.

Couto is not a small biz owner. The guy makes as much as any other euro clinic maybe even more given his 3 year waiting list. So to maintain that profit it makes sense to build a website and behind it integrity, safety and other biz protocols one would expect to see in a serious clinic. That tells me you dont know couto let alone how a biz operates.

Its embarrassingly weird not to understand this.

16 hours ago, deeznuts said:

Sometimes, you hire people to do work, and they underdeliver. For all we know, they hired some third party who promised April and couldn't deliver. I'd be more concerned if it was actual reps or employees from Couto's clinic. A web design company is probably just some third party with no real stake in the business

Tbh its just way too suspicious for a serious clinic to be lacking. It just doesnt look right. Come on, Its like saying microsoft corp not having a website. Its highly fishy.

12 hours ago, MachoVato said:

It doesn't really matter. Cuoto isn't accepting new reservations. He's booked until 2023, or something like that. 

Thats not the point. The point is that any respectable ht clinic would have a website representing their practice already in place 1000s of years ago. Never in my life have I seen a clinic operating without a website which is a must. If this were 1998 yeah I'd understand but this its 2021. Seriously.

No offense but I cant believe you guys support a clinic without a site with the consequential potential side effect of suspect. Thats crazy. And whats crazy about this is you critique highly questionable clinics in turkey WITH websites. Mr. Spock or someone explain this logic to me

2 hours ago, JohnAC71 said:

Using football parlance Aygin would be bush league....🤣

Lol I hear ya

10 hours ago, Ajamilo said:

you are comparing level 5 in English football with the premier league, where Aygin is Aldershot Town and Liverpool are Couto, H&W and Lorenzo.
You

5 hours ago, 1978matt said:

Lorenzo hairlines aren't great unless he's improved lately.  Not sure how much of the procedure he does.  Same goes for Erdogan.

Not familiar with Aygin so no comment.

H&W and Couto Premier League.

Wow. So lorenzo etc are premier league huh. So theyre the superstars of the league.

You guys must be into football big time.

Gotcha! Thanks.

I tried checking out couto's website which is linked below. But I was met with a highly suspicious and strange message that read 'new website coming april 2021'. But we're already in june 2021 and the website isnt still up?? Any respectable ht clinic would have a website up and running. Very very suspicious. What do you guys think?

https://www.fuexpertclinic.com/

For a while I've been looking at results and clinics in turkey by doctors Erdogan or Aygin. I want your honest opinions on these doctors. Obviously theyre from Turkey and theres been some controversy around that country relating to hts. But from what I've seen their results look very good as well as their prices. Some questions.

1. Who would you rather go to? Erdogan and Aygin? Or Lorenzo, Couto and H&W? 

2. Can Erdogan and Aygin fill thinning front scalp that still has hair but needs density?

3. Results from Aygin look too good to be true. Can he be trusted?

4. Do you recommend Erdogan and Aygin? Any issues?

16 hours ago, EvoXOhio said:

I have suffered with depression all my life, and lost Hat was a whirlwind of emotions. Immediately after I was horrified at how bad I looked, during the ugly duckling phase I was depressed thinking I’d made the biggest mistake of my life. I also would have anxiety thinking that if the HT was a failure, I could never shave my head bald due to my FUT scar. At many times early on in the process I said that getting an HT was the worst thing I’ve ever done. 
 

then time went on, my hair grew in, and now I have basically a full head of hair and I couldn’t be happier. For people prone to anxiety and depression, the short term after the surgery is really hard. 

Appreciate you sharing this. It really means a lot to me and to the many going through this difficult process.

20 hours ago, BeHappy said:

 

If you can do that then it is much easier to deal with it, but some people don't have that option due to their job. I have to meet hundreds of people daily, some of them I see regularly and some of them are strangers and I have to be wearing a suit jacket and tie with no head covering allowed.

 

Yes that would mean pressure due to your occupation. I cant imagine wearing a suit and cap then meeting with clients. 

1 hour ago, JohnAC71 said:

I sure as hell felt more depressed in the years preceding my Hair Transplant. Actually having the chance and made the choice to regain some ground I actually started to feel better. Having a transplant is a total roller coaster of a journey but it’s a exciting one to me. 

Thats a good confidence booster. Thanks for sharing!

2 hours ago, BeHappy said:

It will generally be about 5 months before it starts to look better than it did pre transplant, so while it takes a year or more to get the full results, it doesn't take nearly that long to get some good improvement from the starting point.

 

This! I must agree with you. One really doesnt have to wait a whole year to see improved results enough to stop wearing a hat or avoid going outside. Personally I've seen post results 5 - 7 months that looked very good. In all I think an average waiting period to get good enough results is 5 - 7 months. Things will only get better any time thereafter so you dont have to worry.

7 hours ago, Yoo said:

I think perspective helps, I’m currently on day 17 post transplant and am fully aware the next year is going to be hard but what’s helped me is to think of it like this… pre transplant my hair was stabilised due to finsateride but it was never going to get any better, only worse but now I’ve had it done things can only get better from this point onwards, I know within the next 12 months I’ll wake up one day and I’ll have that hairline back. Hope’s the best antidote to depression and by taking action and getting it done you’re giving yourself that hope.

it’s also important to say that there could be underlying things that are causing depression and hair loss may be a small part of a bigger thing, for that there are many things as well as medication that can help

Oh no lol lets not take any more meds than we need to be taking. I think society has had enough of that shit already lol.

Yeah I can imagine youre like counting the days where each and every day seems like an eternity. But you dont have to wait 12 months. Just wait enough til your hair is dense enough to satisfy you. But still its a waiting game.

After I get my ht I wont look at myself in the mirror for many weeks. I'll be avoiding it. I know it sounds nutty but its a way to deal with it mentally at least for me.

Hope is a good feeling.

4 hours ago, aaron1234 said:

By keeping your eyes on the prize.  Also remember that it doesn't take 12 months to look better than you did pre-op.  Expect the first 2-3 to months suck, just part of the process.

I see. In other words you dont have to wait 3 months since thats the ugly duckling phase. It may be possible to look good between 3 and 12 months. I see. Thanks!

Anyone here feel depressed after a hair transplant having to wait for a long year for growth or any growth for that matter? How do you cope with that?