cabelozinho

On 12/9/2022 at 8:05 PM, Sitries1 said:

I have to be honest, I don't think that's a good use of 3500 grafts but if you have aggressive hairloss then you are fighting a losing battle not starting Finasteride 

I don't see finasteride as an excuse anymore because most of the existing hair on the scalp is from my 1st operation. I really thought they made a messy job back then but this is a disaster compared to that. They at least managed to create a hairline, all Asmed was supposed to do was to increase density. Now I have near zero hair on the left and right sides of the frontal scalp. I can understand having better results with finasteride but end up with this otherwise? It's criminal to achieve this result after extracting 3500 grafts (it's equal to more than 5000 hairs according to report they shared) and charging €8000. In the beginning I was dissapointed because of the money I lost, but now I'm super upset because of the wasted donor as I'm getting rejected by the clinics due to extreme donor loss. 

In the end I’ll have to go for another transplant (probably and hopefully the last one) Dr. Freitas asked me to take finasteride for 6 months and reach out again and my consultation with Dr. Couto is scheduled for next September.

Since I already had 2 operations before I dunno if I’m going to be accepted. I already lost around 6500 grafts (1st operation 3k, 2nd operation 3.5k) Asmed confirmed my remaining grafts as 2000 (although I don't believe a word they say) I may also consider scalp micropigmentation to fix my hairline.

I’m really disappointed (and frustrated) with this result. I’d say the progress after my 1st operation is maximum %25. All I can suggest to other people that to do their research thoroughly. I made a huge mistake by checking local forums more than global ones. I don’t recommend Asmed, they are nothing but an overpriced gamble.  

On 8/9/2021 at 4:33 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

In my opinion, spreading your hair apart is not a fair way to present results. Nobody walks around with their hair like that. Hair transplants are not and will never be perfect, but I think this result is decent. Not spectacular, but by no means a failure. 
 

You can be unhappy as a patient, that’s your right, but I believe these pictures show an adequate result in my opinion.

I wouldn't say there is spreading in the pics however I've attached some different shots taken under different lights and angles so you can make a better judgement. I'm aware that hair transplants cannot be perfect but the result is far from being fair. It's even worse when it is considered that I already had a hair transplant on the same area.

On 5/7/2021 at 10:47 PM, JayLDD said:

I don't mean to piss on anyones bonfire, but to pretend this result is a disaster is a bit delusional.

Marginally different lighting, but it was very clearly a seethrough, unnatural mess prior to the ASMED procedure. Post-op it looks natural, frames the face properly albeit a bit of thinning. You're also not on finasteride and I assume after the first surgery that not all of that hair is the result of the transplant, you almost certainly lost most hair over that time period. 

For reference, I think you should take a look at what 3500 grafts over that area can actually achieve. There are plenty of Hasson cases (albeit an extreme example) where he is using that number of grafts in an area a third of the size. Would I expect slightly more density? Yes to a small degree, but its pretty clear that there is a large improvement.

"Thanks, I honestly started to become delusional and try to believe the result is actually ok. When I saw this post below I wanted to create a topic because user's experience seemed similar to mine; https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/56597-my-ht-at-asmed-and-dr-koray-erdogan-january-2017/?tab=comments#comment-538567"

The fact you question whether or not its ok and have to look at someone else's relentless complaints to decide whether your own is ok is in my opinion telling. Its an *ok* result overall.  Someone else's bad result with the same clinic doesn't make yours bad too. 

On the basis of the hairline prior to the surgery to after alone, I would say you've had a fairly significant success. Anyone looking at the former could see something was unnatural, in the second you look like a guy with thinning hair but a hairline that frames the face well. 

The photos where you spread the hair to show as much thinning as possible are pointless. There are photos of Melvin the moderator doing the same where it looks very thin, but his result when styled properly looks fantastic. In the 14 month photo the hair looks good to me. A little thin and the yield not perfect, but good. 

 

 

The photos where I spread the hair to show as much thinning as possible are pointless??? That's something clinic would say actually. Of course 14 months photo looks better because it was taken in the clinic and you can clearly see that it's with flash. That's why hair and my scalp looks darker. If you honestly think there is a spreading in 13 & 17 months results..well, I don't have much to add. I guess what you mean by proper hair styling refers combing hair from one side to another, yes it makes sense but I've been doing that already before I paid all that money and lost 3500 grafts for this operation. Thanks for the advice anyway

On 5/6/2021 at 4:23 PM, Zinedine said:

Hello @cabelozinho,

First of al I hope your are feeling good. 

Second, thanks for showing this experience. From looking at the before and after photos I´m so confused 🤔 how could you know they put 3500 grafts there? If they did, it doesnt look right... the result, I´m sorry to say but as you are saying it´s really really poor.

On this photo it looks that they relly put a lot of grafts there ...

 

But the final OUTCOME it´s not showing those grats... poor survival. They did somthing wrong Im afraid 😟

 

And the problem is that this results at ASMED are happening every day now. There have been many complaints about the recent work from this clinic. They were supposed to be very good in the past decade but seems they changed something and results are not there anymore.

And your meeting at the clinic with that Doctor is really sad. He should have been more understanding and not just almost "accusing" you of this poor result... finasteride, bad quality hair, your previous surgery... they knew about all that before they took your case right? And they said your result would be a success? What happened then? They should take responsibility ... it´s so sad they just look for excuses, that says very little about them... poor result, worst behavior about it. Bad bad bad!

My friend, I hope you find a good clinic to fix this. Have you look into a Doctor for your repair? Your donor, how is it looking? You have already used 6500 so next one might be the last.

Thanks again for showing this so that we can avoid clinics like this one.

Best of luck

 

 

Thanks, I honestly started to become delusional and try to believe the result is actually ok. When I saw this post below I wanted to create a topic because user's experience seemed similar to mine; https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/56597-my-ht-at-asmed-and-dr-koray-erdogan-january-2017/?tab=comments#comment-538567

Regarding another hair transplant I actually don't want to rush and also a bit tired about this whole hair transplant process. If I do it's not gonna be in Turkey definitely.

They already knew about my case that's why they offered to work on frontal to increase the density. The area they worked was already small and had hair so it shouldn't be hard to perform well for such clinic. I also went to clinic every day during the first 10 days for the wash because I didn't want to take any risk. The remaining amount in my donor is around 2500 so I want to save it for my crown part.

I actually don't know what people do when they end up with such results and getting ignored by the clinics like that.

Thanks again

My point is I already lost my hair on the frontal and I already had a transplant for that area. So the hair I have in that area is transplanted. However my crown part is thinning still so having a transplant would harm the existing hair and without finasteride result could be less successful. What I mean finasteride cannot be the main reason for such result. 

Spectacular as above? LOL

I had a hair transplant operation in Asmed in late November 2019

As said by many others, from consultation to the operation they run the process very well and highly professional. I was quite satisfied with their communication and care. Team was polite, friendly I had nothing to complain during the process and I enjoyed my stay in the clinic.

I already had a failed hair transplant 2 years prior to my 2nd operation that’s why I was determined not to play a gamble this time. That’s why Asmed was my first and only choice. 

Since I’ve been already shedding on the crown part Asmed wanted to operate only the frontal because I refused to take finasteride. They told me to wait until the hair loss gets completed at the mid scalp then a 2nd operation can be planned. My first transplant was also operated at frontal part so the idea was to increase hair density at the frontal. It made sense and we agreed to have the operation for 3500 grafts . As the previous operation already cost me 3000 grafts, it was really important for me to use my donor in the best possible way. Operation went well and I didn’t suffer from any issue during the post operation process. Thou I was a bit skeptic about the hair density after 10 days but clinic said all looks well.

I was supposed to go to clinic for a check after 6 months but clinic was closed due to pandemic. I realized there hasn’t been much progress. I sent my photos to the clinic and they made a brief comment saying all goes well and I have to wait minimum 13 months, so I did. I contacted clinic again exactly after 13 months and shared my poor results. They wrote that it’s not possible to evaluate from the photos so I was invited to clinic.

Clinic said the result is successful and it’s the maximum I can get with my current hair volume &  without finasteride that’s why they didn’t offer any touch up however after my post they became willing to communicate and make it up. Given the amount of my remaining grafts I’m no longer in a position to take more risks so I’m not thinking to have another operation at this moment. I’ll save the donor for a possible operation in the future for my crown part. 

donor and time and in the end my hair density didn’t even increase %50.